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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 30, 2022 7:38:44 GMT -5
I believe the Saudi deal was 10 years from April 2018. Accounting for two events missed due to COVID which they’ll be keen to make up, this contract is probably due to end in April 2029. Jeez! I wonder who in the now-current regime is happy with this deal. It makes the company a lot of money which raises the stock.prices making them even m ore money. So they probably feel pretty good about it.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jul 30, 2022 7:40:50 GMT -5
I believe the Saudi deal was 10 years from April 2018. Accounting for two events missed due to COVID which they’ll be keen to make up, this contract is probably due to end in April 2029. Jeez! I wonder who in the now-current regime is happy with this deal. I imagine all of them. It’s an absurdly lucrative deal.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jul 30, 2022 8:48:57 GMT -5
Jeez! I wonder who in the now-current regime is happy with this deal. It makes the company a lot of money which raises the stock.prices making them even m ore money. So they probably feel pretty good about it. Well, financially of course, but it's caused some issues and headaches already.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 30, 2022 8:50:39 GMT -5
It makes the company a lot of money which raises the stock.prices making them even m ore money. So they probably feel pretty good about it. Well, financially of course, but it's caused some issues and headaches already. I have to feel like H and Steph would not let their egos override their good sense and leave their employees stranded.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jul 30, 2022 9:27:21 GMT -5
Yeah, I won't pretend anything will make the Saudi deal better or okay or not morally repugnant, but the Saudi deal under people who won't piss off the government hosting them then fly off and leave dozens of wrestlers stranded in a pissed off foreign country is maybe a teensy tiny bit better. Still vile, still bad, just. Not over-the-top monstrous?
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Jul 30, 2022 9:51:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I won't pretend anything will make the Saudi deal better or okay or not morally repugnant, but the Saudi deal under people who won't piss off the government hosting them then fly off and leave dozens of wrestlers stranded in a pissed off foreign country is maybe a teensy tiny bit better. Still vile, still bad, just. Not over-the-top monstrous? Was HHH one of the people who left the others beyond?
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jul 30, 2022 9:57:18 GMT -5
Yeah, I won't pretend anything will make the Saudi deal better or okay or not morally repugnant, but the Saudi deal under people who won't piss off the government hosting them then fly off and leave dozens of wrestlers stranded in a pissed off foreign country is maybe a teensy tiny bit better. Still vile, still bad, just. Not over-the-top monstrous? Was HHH one of the people who left the others beyond? This was Crown Jewel, Triple H wasn't on the card and I don't believe he was in the country.
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Post by mattyy on Jul 30, 2022 15:13:32 GMT -5
Was HHH one of the people who left the others beyond? This was Crown Jewel, Triple H wasn't on the card and I don't believe he was in the country. He was still stateside working at the PC. The crew that flew home were Vince McMahon, Kevin Dunn, Brock Lesnar, Paul Heyman, Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair and Tyson Fury.
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Post by gl83 on Jul 30, 2022 21:53:52 GMT -5
This was Crown Jewel, Triple H wasn't on the card and I don't believe he was in the country. He was still stateside working at the PC. The crew that flew home were Vince McMahon, Kevin Dunn, Brock Lesnar, Paul Heyman, Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair and Tyson Fury. Triple H was in the States and actually flew in the NXT roster for Smackdown to kickstart the NXT vs Raw vs Smackdown angle for Survivor Series as well as fill in for the SD stars that were stranded back in Saudi.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 30, 2022 22:54:20 GMT -5
Vince looking at all the people generally satisfied with SummerSlam on his f***ing big TV in his f***ing big empty chair in his f***ing big empty mansion… “I’d have done better than that… Did that idiot Cole just namedrop Umaga? And who the f*** rehired Dakota Kai?”
Ahh, f*** him, you had your chance.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 30, 2022 23:04:27 GMT -5
Vince looking at all the people generally satisfied with SummerSlam on his f***ing big TV in his f***ing big empty chair in his f***ing big empty mansion… “I’d have done better than that… Did that idiot Cole just namedrop Umaga? And who the f*** rehired Dakota Kai?” Ahh, f*** him, you had your chance. Thats ridiculous. Do you actually think he remembers who Dakota Kai is?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 31, 2022 1:10:23 GMT -5
The f*** Vince vibes was heavy at Summerslam
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Post by Mike Strike on Jul 31, 2022 2:04:05 GMT -5
Vince looking at all the people generally satisfied with SummerSlam on his f***ing big TV in his f***ing big empty chair in his f***ing big empty mansion… “I’d have done better than that… Did that idiot Cole just namedrop Umaga? And who the f*** rehired Dakota Kai?” Ahh, f*** him, you had your chance. Thats ridiculous. Do you actually think he remembers who Dakota Kai is? Of course he does, he's been watching it on Netflix ever since he retired.
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Post by karl100589 on Jul 31, 2022 2:06:10 GMT -5
I wonder how Vince must feel seeing all the decisions made in the past six months undone in a matter of weeks.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Jul 31, 2022 3:55:44 GMT -5
The f*** Vince vibes was heavy at Summerslam They really, really were. And I hope he was watching. I've been waiting for this for decades. I've wanted to see a HHH run WWE for almost 10 years. I hope the ratings do better. I hope buyrates do better. I hope business is better. And I hope he's watching every goddam second of it.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jul 31, 2022 4:07:49 GMT -5
The f*** Vince vibes was heavy at Summerslam After all the hemming and hawing about how the company can't make it without Vince, hearing about the energy and people being looser, Cole having fun in the booth and sounding revitalized, and just a total turnaround from years of "Yeah morale is kind of rough backstage", it makes me wonder how much the company really needed Vince, and how much Vince needed the company to need him to justify staying there while dragging everyone and everything else around him down. Obviously Vince is always going to be treated well in history by WWE and they'll be blowing his horn once the allegations blow by in historical stuff, he has family and long-time friends in high positions in the company, he's never going to be cast out or anything. But it sounds like the internet maybe hasn't been wrong about Vince holding everything back and even if there's respect for him, there's still also a "Oh god he's finally left" sigh of relief like when a friend you like just fine won't take a hint and leave until like 2 AM and you're just exhausted by their presence the whole time no matter how fond you are of them. And if so then that's actually tragic as hell, because Vince stuck on through all those years and even his own people wanted him to f*** off.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 31, 2022 4:30:40 GMT -5
I’m still cynical about all this because the amount of false dawns this company has given out over the years, with some of the people still there in fact, are enough to make a whole picture book of false dawns but I’d be lying if it didn’t seem from what people here and elsewhere are saying, they’ve put their best foot forward.
I will say, rehiring someone after basically having them be told they’re not good enough to even show up much on the developmental brand of the show over some of the people down there right now and putting them right in a prominent storyline is a pretty baller start to a new era.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jul 31, 2022 7:00:11 GMT -5
If nothing else, it’s hilarious that people are going wild over Roman vs Brock and Michael Cole. Like we wanted what Vince was giving us all along, just not the way he did it.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jul 31, 2022 8:33:25 GMT -5
I’m still cynical about all this because the amount of false dawns this company has given out over the years, with some of the people still there in fact, are enough to make a whole picture book of false dawns but I’d be lying if it didn’t seem from what people here and elsewhere are saying, they’ve put their best foot forward. I will say, rehiring someone after basically having them be told they’re not good enough to even show up much on the developmental brand of the show over some of the people down there right now and putting them right in a prominent storyline is a pretty baller start to a new era. I’m going to guess that even if the product itself remains nothing to write home about, the general move away from Vince’s insane idiosyncrasies and toward an at least slightly more relaxed backstage atmosphere will be noticeable. I’m no big Triple H fan, but the guy at least seems to recognize it’s the 21st century, and that sometimes you do have to acknowledge what your audience wants to see. I don’t think the WWE’s product will ever be for me, but that’ll at least improve some of the smaller details that they’ve spent so many years getting so mind-bogglingly wrong.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jul 31, 2022 9:05:34 GMT -5
If nothing else, it’s hilarious that people are going wild over Roman vs Brock and Michael Cole. Like we wanted what Vince was giving us all along, just not the way he did it. Every "Roman is fine and talented, this character and push are just ass" critique from the mid and late '10s is feeling real validated right now.
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