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Post by Fade on Sept 18, 2022 14:13:18 GMT -5
So Vince retire less than 2 months ago. Why does it feel like a lot longer lol The timelines are converging.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Sept 18, 2022 14:17:06 GMT -5
It's going to be so interesting if/when people go back and watch old RAWs 20 years from now. Knowing what we know now and seeing Vince come out on TV in spite of the allegations to thunderous applause is going to age terribly (or at least more than it already has).
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Sept 18, 2022 14:41:25 GMT -5
It's going to be so interesting if/when people go back and watch old RAWs 20 years from now. Knowing what we know now and seeing Vince come out on TV in spite of the allegations to thunderous applause is going to age terribly (or at least more than it already has). The hugs and tears on those backstage Mania documentaries seem disgusting and insincere. Beginning to consider my fandom and support of Vince loyalists like Taker and Cena.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Sept 18, 2022 15:52:20 GMT -5
It's going to be so interesting if/when people go back and watch old RAWs 20 years from now. Knowing what we know now and seeing Vince come out on TV in spite of the allegations to thunderous applause is going to age terribly (or at least more than it already has). The hugs and tears on those backstage Mania documentaries seem disgusting and insincere. Beginning to consider my fandom and support of Vince loyalists like Taker and Cena. I mean Vince gave those guys opportunities. You can maybe give Taker shit since he’s about that 90s locker room toxicity, but Cena has done more good than harm
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Sept 18, 2022 20:26:42 GMT -5
So Vince retire less than 2 months ago. Why does it feel like a lot longer lol The timelines are converging. He should have announced it in a scrum
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 19, 2022 5:24:50 GMT -5
The hugs and tears on those backstage Mania documentaries seem disgusting and insincere. Beginning to consider my fandom and support of Vince loyalists like Taker and Cena. I mean Vince gave those guys opportunities. You can maybe give Taker shit since he’s about that 90s locker room toxicity, but Cena has done more good than harm Obviously, armchair psychology, but Cena just seems the "good soldier" type. Works super hard, does what he's told, doesn't make waves or look into controversy. There was also the whole China situation.
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Post by polarbearpete on Sept 19, 2022 7:19:17 GMT -5
It's going to be so interesting if/when people go back and watch old RAWs 20 years from now. Knowing what we know now and seeing Vince come out on TV in spite of the allegations to thunderous applause is going to age terribly (or at least more than it already has). Maybe if more comes out (which it very well might) but I don’t think the mainstream view of him has shifted all that much. And Netflix is apparently still moving forward with the documentary so we’ll so how that is presented as that will, rightly or wrongly, influence how people view him.
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Post by darbus alan on Sept 19, 2022 12:02:52 GMT -5
As Cleveland Browns fans have shown yesterday, sports fans don't give a shit about how terrible a person someone is as long as it's their guy. That includes how some WWE fans see Vince McMahon.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 14:25:45 GMT -5
It's going to be so interesting if/when people go back and watch old RAWs 20 years from now. Knowing what we know now and seeing Vince come out on TV in spite of the allegations to thunderous applause is going to age terribly (or at least more than it already has). The hugs and tears on those backstage Mania documentaries seem disgusting and insincere. Beginning to consider my fandom and support of Vince loyalists like Taker and Cena. To me personally, Cena's 650+ Make a Wish visits outweigh his employer being a scumbag. Taker brought plenty of toxicity of a different kind, and he can go kick rocks. Well, maybe I should rephrase that to reflect how I feel about guys like Hogan and Warrior. I love the Undertaker, but Mark Callaway not so much.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Sept 19, 2022 16:23:23 GMT -5
The hugs and tears on those backstage Mania documentaries seem disgusting and insincere. Beginning to consider my fandom and support of Vince loyalists like Taker and Cena. To me personally, Cena's 650+ Make a Wish visits outweigh his employer being a scumbag. Taker brought plenty of toxicity of a different kind, and he can go kick rocks. Well, maybe I should rephrase that to reflect how I feel about guys like Hogan and Warrior. I love the Undertaker, but Mark Callaway not so much. Like I doubt Vince went around telling everyone he was paying people for sex. That said Mark has said a bunch of stuff that makes him look like an asshole regardless
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Sept 19, 2022 16:25:27 GMT -5
I do think there are some definite signs around him that if you get to know him Cena's probably kind of a dick, but so long as he does all the good he does and keeps it close to his chest I find it hard to hold it against him that much.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Sept 19, 2022 20:25:36 GMT -5
Bat Boy is being brought in to face Roman Reigns We haven't had any updates on batboy in a while... I hope he's alright... though I guess he'd be some sort of... Bat... adult by now... Bat Boy was 10ish when they did the first article in the early 90’s, I think he’d be like 40 now. But can’t call him Bat Man, fairly certain someone might hold the trademark on that name
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Sept 19, 2022 23:15:52 GMT -5
I do think there are some definite signs around him that if you get to know him Cena's probably kind of a dick, but so long as he does all the good he does and keeps it close to his chest I find it hard to hold it against him that much. Have you heard his list of f***ing house rules? Shit puts Jericho's list of 1001 holds to shame. Like I get it, being OCD and all, but it's still comes off as control freak-ish and arrogant on some of it.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Sept 19, 2022 23:41:35 GMT -5
I do think there are some definite signs around him that if you get to know him Cena's probably kind of a dick, but so long as he does all the good he does and keeps it close to his chest I find it hard to hold it against him that much. Have you heard his list of f***ing house rules? Shit puts Jericho's list of 1001 holds to shame. Like I get it, being OCD and all, but it's still comes off as control freak-ish and arrogant on some of it. I wouldn't put any actual stock in Total Divas that show was scripted to hell and back. I do have a feeling he does have a bit OCD about wanting things his way... but still
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Post by Lardlad on Sept 20, 2022 10:03:20 GMT -5
That always bothered me. If it was your birthday month, then get rid of the day! Birthmonth, it's not a birthday if you're celebrating the month! Birthmonth! Birthcentury! Nattie celebrates her birthternity, except TJ ruined it. Or Summer Rae did. Or Jim Neidhart did. It's hard to keep track of who Nattie was at odds with on Total Divas. Jim Neidhart should have won an Emmy for his appearances on Total Divas.
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Post by xCompackx on Sept 20, 2022 17:08:00 GMT -5
Have you heard his list of f***ing house rules? Shit puts Jericho's list of 1001 holds to shame. Like I get it, being OCD and all, but it's still comes off as control freak-ish and arrogant on some of it. I wouldn't put any actual stock in Total Divas that show was scripted to hell and back. I do have a feeling he does have a bit OCD about wanting things his way... but still Not gonna lie, if I had a house like, 1/4th the quality of John Cena's house, there'd be a damn list of rules for me, too.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Sept 20, 2022 18:03:00 GMT -5
I wouldn't put any actual stock in Total Divas that show was scripted to hell and back. I do have a feeling he does have a bit OCD about wanting things his way... but still Not gonna lie, if I had a house like, 1/4th the quality of John Cena's house, there'd be a damn list of rules for me, too. I thought that original post was referring to house show rules and I thought well heck if Cena is going to do some house shows why wouldnt he have some requests? Most celebrities do. But rules about his home? Totally get that too.
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Post by polarbearpete on Sept 21, 2022 9:43:59 GMT -5
I do think there are some definite signs around him that if you get to know him Cena's probably kind of a dick, but so long as he does all the good he does and keeps it close to his chest I find it hard to hold it against him that much. Have you heard his list of f***ing house rules? Shit puts Jericho's list of 1001 holds to shame. Like I get it, being OCD and all, but it's still comes off as control freak-ish and arrogant on some of it. That was certainly a bit for the show.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 21, 2022 10:42:00 GMT -5
I do think there are some definite signs around him that if you get to know him Cena's probably kind of a dick, but so long as he does all the good he does and keeps it close to his chest I find it hard to hold it against him that much. Dude supports Vince and had no problem personally spouting dictatorship propaganda at two different times. That enough for me goes to being more than a dick.
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Post by jason1980s on Sept 21, 2022 11:44:49 GMT -5
I admire what Cena has accomplished in wrestling, admire his work with Make a Wish, consider 12 Rounds one of my favorite movies but I feel like he's a guy who would sell out any number of people in his own family if Vince needed him to.
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