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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 25, 2022 9:19:34 GMT -5
I mean, that was a pretty infamously awful promo, though...
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jul 25, 2022 9:39:52 GMT -5
Yes, he still wasn't in the best shape when he came back as Biker Taker but the new gimmick seemed to really motivate him. He had some great matches during 2000-2001. The best he'd had since his feud with Kane and Hell in a Cell in 1998. Did he though? I remember 2000-01 being the "Taker no sells everything unprofessionally" period. I should have specified, the time between his initial return and the invasion. However, I remember his TV matches being enjoyable, as well as both of his PPV matches against Kurt Angle, and against Triple H at Wrestlemania. They were all certainly better than what he was producing throughout 1999. Then the DDP angle happens, and the invasion, his Undisputed Title reign, booger red, etc. I can't really look back at much of that in high regard. |
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Post by James Fabiano on Jul 25, 2022 10:58:39 GMT -5
Did he though? I remember 2000-01 being the "Taker no sells everything unprofessionally" period. I should have specified, the time between his initial return and the invasion. However, I remember his TV matches being enjoyable, as well as both of his PPV matches against Kurt Angle, and against Triple H at Wrestlemania. They were all certainly better than what he was producing throughout 1999. Then the DDP angle happens, and the invasion, his Undisputed Title reign, booger red, etc. I can't really look back at much of that in high regard. Um about that Angle match...at least one person would disagree... |
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jul 25, 2022 12:34:37 GMT -5
I should have specified, the time between his initial return and the invasion. However, I remember his TV matches being enjoyable, as well as both of his PPV matches against Kurt Angle, and against Triple H at Wrestlemania. They were all certainly better than what he was producing throughout 1999. Then the DDP angle happens, and the invasion, his Undisputed Title reign, booger red, etc. I can't really look back at much of that in high regard. Um about that Angle match...at least one person would disagree... Well, 1) it's all subjective.. and 2) who the hell said that? 😂 |
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Jul 25, 2022 13:54:59 GMT -5
I think most of us has seen it, but for those who hasn't, and those who want to see it again: Here's the promo.It's, bad. Oh, that reminds me, does anyone remember the fan drawn cartoon of Undertaker and Big Show's Desert Adventure? I wish I could find it, it's hilarious. I think there was a follow-up, too. |
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jul 25, 2022 16:30:10 GMT -5
Oh God, he absolutely was. The Ministry/Corporate Ministry angle helped to cover things up a bit but when that ended (and to be fair in the few months before) he was a chore to watch. He looked out of shape and out of f***s to give. IIRC there was an episode of Raw just before he took time off for injuries where he could barely walk to the ring, he badly needed to go away for a year and recharge. I’ve never been the biggest fan of Biker Taker but at least when he came back with that gimmick the best part of a year later, he looked like he actually wanted to be there. The best thing that came from Ministry Taker was when he was acting like a cartoon villain on commentary. “Mideon you better get up, boy! Nooo! Someone’s going to pay for this!” I wish they would've had him stomp his feet up and down and go on about how the meddling Rock and Sock Connection had foiled his plans for the last time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2022 14:03:53 GMT -5
Um about that Angle match...at least one person would disagree... Well, 1) it's all subjective.. and 2) who the hell said that? 😂 Scott Keith |
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Post by eJm on Jul 26, 2022 14:19:43 GMT -5
Oh God, he absolutely was. The Ministry/Corporate Ministry angle helped to cover things up a bit but when that ended (and to be fair in the few months before) he was a chore to watch. He looked out of shape and out of f***s to give. IIRC there was an episode of Raw just before he took time off for injuries where he could barely walk to the ring, he badly needed to go away for a year and recharge. I’ve never been the biggest fan of Biker Taker but at least when he came back with that gimmick the best part of a year later, he looked like he actually wanted to be there. The best thing that came from Ministry Taker was when he was acting like a cartoon villain on commentary. “Mideon you better get up, boy! Nooo! Someone’s going to pay for this!” I heard this on one of the B&V shows and still really need to see it because it sounds glorious. |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jul 26, 2022 14:25:11 GMT -5
Yes, he still wasn't in the best shape when he came back as Biker Taker but the new gimmick seemed to really motivate him. He had some great matches during 2000-2001. The best he'd had since his feud with Kane and Hell in a Cell in 1998. Did he though? I remember 2000-01 being the "Taker no sells everything unprofessionally" period. I mean, he was *better* when he came back (His Mania 17 match against HHH was tremendous) but he didn't his his stride until early 02 after his heel turn at the end of the previous year |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 26, 2022 14:28:34 GMT -5
Didn’t the top guys at least have to submit what their promo was going to be to Vince or Russo or whoever for approval back then? I remember Jericho had to for his debut promo with the Rock. So if that’s the case someone approved him calling Taker boring and even worse someone probably wrote or approved that piece of shit promo about dropping the Big Show off in Death Valley and he made a new pair of boots and a tie. Blame that guy. He said in the quote there the plan was always for him to call it boring. The problem he was a heel and it was supposed to be seen as some punk newcomer to the WWF disrespecting the Undertaker... but the promo WAS boring so the crowd popped for Jericho calling it boring. That promo was like RIGHT before Taker decided to take like a year off too from what I remember. |
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jul 26, 2022 14:46:56 GMT -5
The best thing that came from Ministry Taker was when he was acting like a cartoon villain on commentary. “Mideon you better get up, boy! Nooo! Someone’s going to pay for this!” I heard this on one of the B&V shows and still really need to see it because it sounds glorious. |
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Post by eJm on Jul 26, 2022 14:55:55 GMT -5
Couple of notes; 1) Man, for as hot as that crowd was at that start, nobody had a single clue what was going on before Kane came out. And 2) That “NOOOOOOOOOOO!” gave me so much life. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 26, 2022 17:54:57 GMT -5
The only issue is if you're not having a program with Taker why bring it up at all and cause trouble. Calling another wrestler boring makes no sense in kayfabe. In the ring, maybe, but calling their promo boring makes sense even in kayfabe, but like Jericho said, calling an actually boring promo boring shines a spotlight on someone's weakness in a damaging way. |
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Jul 28, 2022 10:59:10 GMT -5
Well, 1) it's all subjective.. and 2) who the hell said that? 😂 Scott Keith Who? *No Jim Neidhart* |
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Post by nickcave on Jul 28, 2022 12:55:50 GMT -5
The only issue is if you're not having a program with Taker why bring it up at all and cause trouble. Calling another wrestler boring makes no sense in kayfabe. Jericho's thing for the first few weeks when he debuted was disrupting the top talent to show that he was the new face in town and then he was abruptly shuffled down to the bottom of the card and had to work his way back up because too many top guys didn't like him initially |
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