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Post by attitudeeraguy22 on Jul 25, 2022 23:29:34 GMT -5
I think this is one of the things HHH’s crew should think about as they map out the future of WWE. The brand split has shown its purpose, but it’s also loosely enforced in the last couple of months and I think there’s an argument to be made that Raw and Smackdown should be merged supershows again.
The brand split gives more TV time to multiple talents and carves out an identity for each show. But merging brings all the best talent together each week like we saw in the Attitude Era and from 2011-2016. It’s not always ideal, but it’s a survival of the fittest. The cream will rise to the top. The brand split hasn’t been enforced well the last couple years and I believe this should lead to WWE not having two separate brands, but instead having two shows that work in conjunction for the main roster to keep up stories and mix up fresh matchups from time to time. A brand split is more restricted, where as this is not.
Wondering where everyone else stands on this? I’m thinking merged brands, only one world title, one tag title, one women’s title, and keep the two mid card titles. This cuts down on filler and redundancy and gives both shows star power week to week.
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Jul 25, 2022 23:38:37 GMT -5
Brand split: exists Dozens of people on boards: SHOULD WE END THIS
It's worth reexamining but no, keep it and reinforce it. Build more stars if you don't think you have enough viable stars for two brands.
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Post by Fade on Jul 25, 2022 23:47:49 GMT -5
I mean, look at tonight. I think they’re more likely to get rid of it entirely than reinforce it.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jul 25, 2022 23:52:52 GMT -5
It's hard to say as on one hand it would lead to better depth and more fresh matches. On the other hand it would lead to more over reliance on the same people and less new stars being made due to less available TV time. Lack of brand splits also lead to worse PPV's imo as it leads to them doing rematches more and using the same talents month after month due to "priority talents" they feel have to be on every PPV if they are available. I would keep the split. I think the bad would outweigh the good when it came to a brand merger.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jul 26, 2022 0:02:36 GMT -5
I think what should be done with the brands depends on what Triple H either wants to do or feels like he is capable of handling. If he wants to merge the brands so he can oversee all of the booking, ok, if he wants to focus on booking one of the brands himself and letting someone like I dunno, Heyman or whathaveyou run the other brand, that's also fine.
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Post by ARI WOW WOW on Jul 26, 2022 4:12:24 GMT -5
Make them 2 very distinct and separate shows, competing on every and all levels. And then watch cream rise to the top.
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Post by nisidhe on Jul 26, 2022 7:10:42 GMT -5
Neither show right now is working well from a creative standpoint, and there is an argument to be had that merging the brands will allow better booking on the fly because the pool of talent to draw from will be bigger. This year so far has been snakebit with injuries and disputes over booking; Smackdown's roster is woefully thin in particular and the undercard is horrifically underused.
Perhaps with Trips at the helm, more storylines can be worked at once and get to his desk so he can say yea or nay to more of them. That way, we can see everyone on a more consistent basis and be able to see some character development and some storylines furthered along. With Vince's departure as sudden as it was, some patience in all this might be necessary regardless of the direction they take re Raw vs Smackdown. But I think the time may have come for WWE to shit or get off the pot with how they present their deliberately-thinner talent pool and how much input they allow the networks into who shows up where and when. With a roster small enough for them to scramble whenever there's an injury, all hands need to be on both decks. I say kill the brand split.
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Post by dbrussel on Jul 26, 2022 7:22:03 GMT -5
Make them 2 very distinct and separate shows, competing on every and all levels. And then watch cream rise to the top. Never worked before
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Post by CeilingFan on Jul 26, 2022 9:44:22 GMT -5
Make them 2 very distinct and separate shows, competing on every and all levels. And then watch cream rise to the top. Never worked before It did, from 2002 to about 2009.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Jul 26, 2022 9:51:22 GMT -5
WWE: *separates brands*
"End the brand split!"
WWE: *merges brands*
"We need another brand split!"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2022 11:04:52 GMT -5
They can keep PLEs the way they are, but I want a proper brand split again after people like Io, Grimes and others are called up and HHH signs more talent.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2022 11:05:55 GMT -5
It did, from 2002 to about 2009. Worked pretty damn well in 2003 and 2016 especially.
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Post by Hypnosis on Jul 26, 2022 11:09:39 GMT -5
Having seperate brands would hopefully mean Roman only appears on one show again, but right now he's holding both world titles, so that complicates plans.
There also needs to be more call-ups and signings to fill out the undercard to make a hard brand split worth doing again.
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Post by 06vwgti on Jul 26, 2022 11:16:26 GMT -5
They need to expand and use their roster effectively. All those cuts didn't help...
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Post by DichEvans on Jul 26, 2022 11:43:24 GMT -5
5 hours of the same talent pool every week would just be too much. 3 hours of the RAW brand is still too much.
During the Hogan era, Hulk was barely ever on TV. MAYBE 1-2 a month. In the Austin era, he was on TV once a week at most until Smackdown, and it was around the establishment of SmackDown when ratings started to go down as a whole (albeit slowly).
In the internet era, this is only magnified.
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Post by attitudeeraguy22 on Jul 26, 2022 13:28:33 GMT -5
It did, from 2002 to about 2009. Worked pretty damn well in 2003 and 2016 especially. Did it though? I remember both years people enjoyed Smackdown more and always complained about Raw. There’s never been a time where both shows were appreciated at the same time.
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Post by attitudeeraguy22 on Jul 26, 2022 13:30:47 GMT -5
It did, from 2002 to about 2009. 2005 was a good year for both. 2008 was solid too. But it’s hit or miss when you break the brands up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2022 13:46:31 GMT -5
Worked pretty damn well in 2003 and 2016 especially. Did it though? I remember both years people enjoyed Smackdown more and always complained about Raw. There’s never been a time where both shows were appreciated at the same time. I don't think that's because of the brand split itself, though, just the writing and the way talents were used. I remember in 2016 everyone thought SDL got bitch slapped in the draft, but it was still a consistently great show every week up until about mid 2017.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jul 26, 2022 13:46:34 GMT -5
Restock the coffers with talent, enforce the brand split more strongly, separate the unified titles again.
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Post by Mecca on Jul 26, 2022 13:51:48 GMT -5
If they reinforce it they'll need more talent. Nick Khan is anti more talent.
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