Why the Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar WM 30 match is so failed?

[hijuko]

Beyond the concussion The Undertaker got at the start of the match who made it bad, this match had no heat and no drama and the after match is very poor compared to the after match of the Undertaker vs Triple H of Mania 28 for exemple.

I think with this match and this ending, WWE really spit on 20 years of history!

[polarbearpete]

It was 1000% the right opponent to beat Undertaker as it put Brock on a totally different level that they’ve been capitalizing on for the last 8 years and counting.

The ending of the match and the reaction of the crowd is also an iconic moment, that captures the genuine emotion that the audience was feeling. Genuine shock, disbelief and even sadness. It juxtaposes nicely with the crowd being rabid for Bryan later in the night.

The match was less than stellar because 1) the concussion really slowed Taker down, and 2) the streak had become so predictable that fans were not buying any near falls. The latter point is why it was the right time to break the streak, it had run its course.

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

This match also took place before Brock really found the fast paced all action formula that he would use for his later matches. Even without a concussion, it would probably be a longer match that ultimately wouldn't play to Brock's strengths as much.

[XIII]

Brock was the right guy and Brock systematically beating down an old busted Undertaker put Brock at Final Boss level.

[bluebeach25]

Taker did not looked in good shape that year to begin with. Brock was at that time not the best in-ring worker to carry someone threw a match, which is why it just didn't worked. They proved a year later that they have great chemistry.

At the end nobody talked about the match itself, just the moment after.

[Ben Wyatt]

Jul 26, 2022 8:50:39 GMT -5 XIII said:

Brock was the right guy and Brock systematically beating down an old busted Undertaker put Brock at Final Boss level.

Correct. This and bodying Cena at Summerslam was a perfect 1-2 combo to make the guy a complete monster.

The part that pisses me off is that they dropped the ball completely in terms of capitalizing on it down the road. 

[Mozenrath]

I think the lack of heat was largely since it was thought to be a foregone conclusion that had a fairly weak build. Undertaker streak, yadda yadda. Undertaker clearly getting hurt cast a cloud over the match, too.

Then... the result changes everything and it becomes history. I almost wonder if it'd have screwed with it if it had actually been a good match, if the impact would have been lessened.

[Final Countdown Jones]

Jul 26, 2022 9:01:50 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

I think the lack of heat was largely since it was thought to be a foregone conclusion that had a fairly weak build. Undertaker streak, yadda yadda. Undertaker clearly getting hurt cast a cloud over the match, too.

Then... the result changes everything and it becomes history. I almost wonder if it'd have screwed with it if it had actually been a good match, if the impact would have been lessened.

In a weird way, it ws one time where a funky, not-right finish actually enhanced the result. If it was a fall people at all bit on, I'm not sure it could have had that same impact, but whether by design or accident, it ended up being a huge shock finish just because nobody thought the match would be over, and before anyone could even think about why this wouldn't be the finish, the match was done. I'm not saying it's a good thing that the match went the way it did, but there is something amazingly transcendent to me about the idea this history-definining moment was so shocking that it didn't even come with a convincing end, it was just over. Just like the streak. Just over.

[Kevin Hamilton]

Nah it would have worked fine if Taker hasn't been knocked silly so early.

[Jumpin' Jesse Walsh]

In a way, the match being so boring is what really made the result so shocking.

[Gerard Gerard]

Was always of the belief it didn't matter what kind of match they had (well, mostly) because the only thing anybody would remember is the ending.

[Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story]

I don't think I've ever heard what the original plan for the match would have been. I actually think Taker getting concussed made it even more shocking, because after it was over you had people confused as to whether Taker was supposed to kick out and his body physically gave out. I wonder if the original ending planned to telegraph that Taker was going to finally lose more.

I think the abrupt end is what made it work and while he's probably worn out his welcome now, putting their eggs in the Lesnar basket probably saved their business for a few years.

[GodzillaIsMyMonster]

I love the match. I kinda wish Undertaker had retired after this one.

Brock completely destroyed him. He beat him down & exposed him as an old man behind the smoke and mirrors.

[BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps]

No, Taker/Brock was absolutely a 100% success. Lesnar ending the streak made him an even bigger box office draw in wrestling.

The match wasn’t a classic, but it didn’t need to be in the long term.

[cornettesracket]

I agree with the streak ending but I don’t think brock needed the win. It didn’t help that taker got his bell seriously rung early on the match, and I think it happened outside when brock suplexed taker on the floor. I will say despite the match having hogan vs Andre level in ring action due to one wrestler not being up to working due to an injury, I do think that WWE handled the finish VERY well.

The way they didn’t play Brock’s music straight away so fans had a chance to take in what we had just seen was perfect. The shock of the crowd wasn’t drowned out by music and we hear the shock wave hit the crowd. Perfect.

[Germansuplex]

If Brock hadn't beaten Taker then and there, we would not be talking about that match today.

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It should've taken more to beat Taker than an F5. I get that was "shocking" but after the initial surprise wore off, we we were all thinking.... "is that it?"

I said it before and I'll say it again.

John Cena should've been the one to break the Streak. He should've beat Taker within an inch of his life and used it to usher in a new boom period.

Heel Cena would've been groundbreaking for the wrestling business if done right. Especially if he was playing a "delusional superhero" character who's a massive hypocrite but unaware of it. Basically something like his Peacemaker character.

[Lizuka #BLM]

I actually kind of find it's a lot more watchable on a second viewing specifically because of knowing where it's going. Watching it live it was a boring slog that only picked up with its shocking finish but with the benefit of hindsight it reads as Undertaker just plain not having it anymore and finally meeting someone his tricks just aren't working on.

[Mozenrath]

Jul 26, 2022 14:50:12 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

I actually kind of find it's a lot more watchable on a second viewing specifically because of knowing where it's going. Watching it live it was a boring slog that only picked up with its shocking finish but with the benefit of hindsight it reads as Undertaker just plain not having it anymore and finally meeting someone his tricks just aren't working on.

It's sort of like how the original Suplex City works because it's Cena, where you have this dismantling of The Guy in wrestling for like about a decade, and the idea Lesnar had transcended what he'd been even a few years before where Cena could get one over on him more easily.

Then they did the same formula with a bunch of people where it didn't really have that impact, which got annoying, but eh.