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Post by James Fabiano on Aug 2, 2022 11:26:44 GMT -5
It's also seems to lead to... ALL BATMAN MOVIES SHOULD BE SUPER SERIOUS AND GROUNDED IN REALITY! I prefer the 90s Batman movies to the Nolan stuff. Absolutely dead serious. Each version is what it is, but Nolan wasn't the be all, end all we all thought it was 15+ years ago. And considering how WB has abused the Nolan-like tone and all, yeah...in some ways I do appreciate the Schumacher era. B:TAS is the one really timeless Batverse, though.
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Post by Gremlin on Aug 2, 2022 11:57:55 GMT -5
Speaking of studios making bad calls, how many studios decided to pass on Peter Jackson wanting to do Lord Of The Rings before he got the deal with New Line? Just Miramax. Harvey Weinstein initially wanted Jackson to make a trilogy, consisting of The Hobbit and a two-part adaptation of Lord of the Rings. When he couldn't get the rights to The Hobbit, he tried to bully Jackson into cutting the two-part Lord of the Rings down to a single two-hour movie, going so far as to say that if Jackson didn't do it Weinstein already had Quentin Tarantino's agreement to take over. Good god, can you imagine that movie? Close-ups of hobbit feet?
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Aug 2, 2022 12:14:10 GMT -5
JCPenney did a thing a few years back where instead of doing constant markdowns from effectively fake higher prices, they just did consistently lower prices.
It backfired because people are stupid and would rather buy a 20 dollar shirt on sale for 15 dollars instead of a 12 dollar shirt.
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Post by castletonsnob on Aug 2, 2022 12:27:16 GMT -5
WCW letting go of "Stunning" Steve Austin and "Terra Ryzing", who later became HUGE stars in the WWE as "Stone Cold" Steve Austin and Triple H, respectively.
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Post by Spider2024 on Aug 2, 2022 12:39:37 GMT -5
Ronald Reagan turning down the lead in Casablanca. Ok, but who would've been his supporting actor, Jerry Lewis?
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Post by castletonsnob on Aug 2, 2022 12:39:59 GMT -5
Some people say that Coca-Cola planned the failure of New Coke to increase sales of Original Coke. www.snopes.com/fact-check/new-coke-fiasco/So, no, this wasn't some 4D chess move. Coca-Cola just made a mistake.
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Post by Paul on Aug 2, 2022 12:44:30 GMT -5
I highly recommend the book "The Real Coke, The Real Story" by Thomas Oliver. It goes into detail about why Coca-Cola decided to change the formula, what lead up to the decision, and how it all played out. It's a pretty interesting story.
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Post by ANuclearError on Aug 2, 2022 13:03:13 GMT -5
Coca-Cola's attempt to introduce Dasani to the UK is the gold standard of how not to market a product.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 2, 2022 13:14:04 GMT -5
Ronald Reagan turning down the lead in Casablanca. He was never in the running, it was just WB spreading a rumour to keep Reagan's name out there.
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Post by dav on Aug 2, 2022 13:26:09 GMT -5
Coca-Cola's attempt to introduce Dasani to the UK is the gold standard of how not to market a product. Granted, taking inspiration from an episode of Only Fools And Horses pretty much doomed it from the start.
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Post by fg on Aug 2, 2022 16:58:47 GMT -5
JCPenney did a thing a few years back where instead of doing constant markdowns from effectively fake higher prices, they just did consistently lower prices. It backfired because people are stupid and would rather buy a 20 dollar shirt on sale for 15 dollars instead of a 12 dollar shirt. In addition to getting rid of sales in 2012, they also said that you can return items no matter how long you owned the item and WITHOUT a receipt. Apparently, they forgot that customers could buy something at say Macys five years prior and return it at JCPenney perhaps thinking they would buy it there and it would be no problem. As a matter of fact, you can talk about JCPenney in the early 2010s as a whole.
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Post by fg on Aug 2, 2022 17:01:32 GMT -5
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Aug 2, 2022 17:12:58 GMT -5
JCPenney did a thing a few years back where instead of doing constant markdowns from effectively fake higher prices, they just did consistently lower prices. It backfired because people are stupid and would rather buy a 20 dollar shirt on sale for 15 dollars instead of a 12 dollar shirt. In addition to getting rid of sales in 2012, they also said that you can return items no matter how long you owned the item and WITHOUT a receipt. Apparently, they forgot that customers could buy something at say Macys five years prior and return it at JCPenney perhaps thinking they would buy it there and it would be no problem. As a matter of fact, you can talk about JCPenney in the early 2010s as a whole. I think it was around the time they tried to reorganize their stores to feel more like a bunch of trendy individual stores organized more by branding In short they did a whole bunch to scare off older coupon clipping shoppers I.e. my mom. At my own store they gutted and neglected the men’s suit department so you could hardly even find a matching set.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 2, 2022 17:23:45 GMT -5
Quibi. just Quibi.
and on that note...
HBO Max!
AT&T deciding they could be Disney without all the behind the scenes setup and just buying a bunch of companies like WB, DirecTV, HBO itself... deciding just having the companies was enough on it's own announces HBO Max... while having HBO Plus and HBO Now as other apps confusing the marketplace.
Refusing to let their app be on Roku or Fire TV where over like 80% of the people watch streaming... and a few other things that I'm sure I'm forgetting.
If Quibi wasn't a thing it would have been the worst launch of a streaming service of that year...
They lost a shitload of money and AT&T basically slashed the budgets for EVERYTHING... causing a bunch of things people were excited for to be cancelled... and it all ends up with DirecTV and HBO Max getting sold to Discovery... who are now also freaking out and canceling a bunch of things... so it must still be a massive shit show behind the scenes.
That's not even getting into them throwing more money into the Snyder Sink Hole.
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Aug 2, 2022 18:32:21 GMT -5
Target expanding into Canada failed so hard, all the stores shut down within about 4-5 months of opening.
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Post by fg on Aug 2, 2022 18:50:07 GMT -5
Does CNN+ count?
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Post by bob on Aug 2, 2022 18:56:14 GMT -5
whoever put Jim Herd in charge of WCW
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Aug 2, 2022 18:59:00 GMT -5
Unless it's been debunked, I remember hearing that Shane McMahon tried talking Vince into buying UFC way back in the day, and Vince passed on it. This was a while before UFC blew up and became huge in the 2000s. I don't remember the source for that rumor tho I just remember reading it somewhere. Wasn't the UFC holding on by a thread for a good long while there? Between John McCain doing his best to kill it, SACs refusing to give them licenses, and some cable providers refusing to carry it, it sounds like it was a real struggle for them to keep the doors open until the Zuffa era. Vince might've been able to get it for a song, and his promotional skills might've helped them reach a new level much faster, but I could understand the logic behind not wanting to buy a struggling business with a ton of heat on it.
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Post by BorneAgain on Aug 2, 2022 18:59:49 GMT -5
Honestly the expansion into exclusive streaming services might end up being one for everyone that isn't Disney. It has a short term appeal for customers and executives, but as noted in this thread the massive investment has produced very inconsistent profits and the major cutting of vast TV/film into strict services all individually priced has probably driven more people to piracy that can be quantified. In some ways its a repeat of the chasing of shared universes; a fundamental misunderstanding of why the original model worked so well and so much overhead into getting the project going that anything short of a huge success is a disaster.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 2, 2022 18:59:53 GMT -5
Coca-Cola's attempt to introduce Dasani to the UK is the gold standard of how not to market a product.
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