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Post by The Rick Jericho on Aug 5, 2022 18:39:49 GMT -5
I've heard of this back in 2007 that it was going to happen. Then it didn't. Was it because Big Show left in December of that year and he wasn't interested in returning?
I know Hogan was angling for another match after the Orton match at Summerslam. Apparently they wanted to recreate the "Andre" slam 20 years later?
Would Hogan's back have been able to handle this?
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Post by THE FVNKER on Aug 5, 2022 18:46:24 GMT -5
They did it in Memphis that year didn't they?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 5, 2022 18:49:33 GMT -5
I've heard of this back in 2007 that it was going to happen. Then it didn't. Was it because Big Show left in December of that year and he wasn't interested in returning? I know Hogan was angling for another match after the Orton match at Summerslam. Apparently they wanted to recreate the "Andre" slam 20 years later? Would Hogan's back have been able to handle this? That was always the rumour. Believe slamming Khali was meant to be the compromise.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Aug 5, 2022 18:52:49 GMT -5
Yeah, it happened in Memphis a few weeks after Wrestlemania 23. I just posted a photo from the match in another thread. The match was supposed to be Hogan/Lawler until WWE pulled Lawler so Big Show was the replacement. Khali was the person rumored to face Hogan at Wrestlemania that year to recreate the Andre slam. Hogan was still pissy at Vince though because he wasn't happy with his Summerslam payday and how early on the card his match with Orton was so they ended up not agreeing to terms for Wrestlemania.
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Post by XIII on Aug 5, 2022 18:55:37 GMT -5
The Big Show really should have protected his gimmick of being a giant better. The reason that the Andre slam worked is because a) few people had slammed Andre up to that point and b) those that did were either in Japan or at untelevised territory events, so it was easy to sell that no one had ever done it. Meanwhile, the Big Show was getting slammed, suplexed, power bombed and Jack hammered almost from day one. Which always made it hilarious when they would try to sell him as “who can eliminate him from the Rumble!?” The answer is everyone, because he’s been ragdolled for years.
I know that he came in and was corrupted by Hogan, Nash, etc. early on and he likely didn’t really care, but he could have kept his aura for longer if he hadn’t been tossed about so often. 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 5, 2022 19:38:56 GMT -5
The Big Show really should have protected his gimmick of being a giant better. The reason that the Andre slam worked is because a) few people had slammed Andre up to that point and b) those that did were either in Japan or at untelevised territory events, so it was easy to sell that no one had ever done it. Meanwhile, the Big Show was getting slammed, suplexed, power bombed and Jack hammered almost from day one. Which always made it hilarious when they would try to sell him as “who can eliminate him from the Rumble!?” The answer is everyone, because he’s been ragdolled for years. I know that he came in and was corrupted by Hogan, Nash, etc. early on and he likely didn’t really care, but he could have kept his aura for longer if he hadn’t been tossed about so often. 🤷🏻♂️ I think in WCW, he was too inexperienced and also wanted to show off how he was much more mobile than Andre or Gonzales, etc. Then he goes to WWF and Austin and Undertaker both tried to get it into his head that he needed to be more selfish sometimes in the ring. I feel like his ECW champion run was probably his peak of throwing his weight around effectively, so to speak.
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Post by Instant Classic on Aug 5, 2022 19:47:51 GMT -5
It would have been a cool visual and a nod to Hogan slamming Andre.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Aug 5, 2022 19:52:57 GMT -5
Jim Ross podcast.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 5, 2022 20:08:30 GMT -5
The Big Show really should have protected his gimmick of being a giant better. The reason that the Andre slam worked is because a) few people had slammed Andre up to that point and b) those that did were either in Japan or at untelevised territory events, so it was easy to sell that no one had ever done it. Meanwhile, the Big Show was getting slammed, suplexed, power bombed and Jack hammered almost from day one. Which always made it hilarious when they would try to sell him as “who can eliminate him from the Rumble!?” The answer is everyone, because he’s been ragdolled for years. I know that he came in and was corrupted by Hogan, Nash, etc. early on and he likely didn’t really care, but he could have kept his aura for longer if he hadn’t been tossed about so often. 🤷🏻♂️ I think in WCW, he was too inexperienced and also wanted to show off how he was much more mobile than Andre or Gonzales, etc. Then he goes to WWF and Austin and Undertaker both tried to get it into his head that he needed to be more selfish sometimes in the ring. I feel like his ECW champion run was probably his peak of throwing his weight around effectively, so to speak. Yeah, Show has talked countless times how Taker was up his ass about performing to his size but his tenure in WCW sort of set him back in that regard. Considering how athletic Show was at his early age, if someone would taught him right he most likely wouldn't have went through that rough patch he did I think he said before how a match with Austin finally woke him up. He pulled Austin trunks up his ass too hard and Austin was cursing him out and hit him with a stiff show and Show basically stopped that shit point blank and Austin releasing he was in trouble told Show "way to fire up kid" lol His ECW and later runs def was when he finally learned to use his size to his advantage. He told a story about how Sheamus was too overzealous in the ring and Show was telling him to calm down and since he wasn't listening Show basically grabbed him and slapped on the chest I think and Sheamus was like oh shit sorry and listened to Show
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 5, 2022 20:11:48 GMT -5
I think in WCW, he was too inexperienced and also wanted to show off how he was much more mobile than Andre or Gonzales, etc. Then he goes to WWF and Austin and Undertaker both tried to get it into his head that he needed to be more selfish sometimes in the ring. I feel like his ECW champion run was probably his peak of throwing his weight around effectively, so to speak. Yeah, Show has talked countless times how Taker was up his ass about performing to his size but his tenure in WCW sort of set him back in that regard. Considering how athletic Show was at his early age, if someone would taught him right he most likely wouldn't have went through that rough patch he did I think he said before how a match with Austin finally woke him up. He pulled Austin trunks up his ass too hard and Austin was cursing him out and hit him with a stiff show and Show basically stopped that shit point blank and Austin releasing he was in trouble told Show "way to fire up kid" lol His ECW and later runs def was when he finally learned to use his size to his advantage. He told a story about how Sheamus was too overzealous in the ring and Show was telling him to calm down and since he wasn't listening Show basically grabbed him and slapped on the chest I think and Sheamus was like oh shit sorry and listened to Show Reminds me of Ernie Ladd facing someone who was young and too fired up, and not listening to slow down, so Ladd backed him into a corner and wouldn't let him out of the spot until he calmed down. There's of course also the infamous one of Warrior running into Andre as hard as he could until Andre got fed up and stuck his fist out so Warrior just crashed into it and got hurt.
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Post by bluebeach25 on Aug 5, 2022 22:18:29 GMT -5
I think Hogan/Khali was rumored in 07. Match would have been a nightmare
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Post by thegame415 on Aug 5, 2022 22:36:38 GMT -5
I mean, I get Big Show not wanting to do the match after Hogan killed Andre 20 years earlier.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Aug 5, 2022 22:53:07 GMT -5
Yeah, it happened in Memphis a few weeks after Wrestlemania 23. I just posted a photo from the match in another thread. The match was supposed to be Hogan/Lawler until WWE pulled Lawler so Big Show was the replacement. That was when he was trying to get Paul “The Great” Wight over and anytime someone called him ‘Big Show’, he’d say that was his “slave name”.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 6, 2022 15:11:18 GMT -5
As if Hogan is jobbing on the Hulkamania tour
Even I side with the racist goblin on that one
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Post by The Ichi on Aug 6, 2022 15:13:26 GMT -5
I'm not sure I believe this given that Show wasn't exactly a diva about putting people over and Hogan is his favourite wrestler.
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Post by ISO Mid Thigh Pull on Aug 6, 2022 15:19:39 GMT -5
Yeah, it happened in Memphis a few weeks after Wrestlemania 23. I just posted a photo from the match in another thread. The match was supposed to be Hogan/Lawler until WWE pulled Lawler so Big Show was the replacement. That was when he was trying to get Paul “The Great” Wight over and anytime someone called him ‘Big Show’, he’d say that was his “slave name”. Completely forgot all about this and now I feel like I need to find an interview from the time and slam it in to the indy cringe compilation thread because f*** DUDE LMAO
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Aug 6, 2022 15:21:51 GMT -5
I'm not sure I believe this given that Show wasn't exactly a diva about putting people over and Hogan is his favourite wrestler. At that point Show had a lot more to give as a performer whereas Hogan was already waaaayyyyy past his prime. Show was surely shrewd enough to realise putting Hogan over didn’t help him long term, and wasn’t enthusiastic about helping a sad old man have another moment at his expense.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Aug 6, 2022 15:28:05 GMT -5
I'm not sure I believe this given that Show wasn't exactly a diva about putting people over and Hogan is his favourite wrestler. At that point Show had a lot more to give as a performer whereas Hogan was already waaaayyyyy past his prime. Show was surely shrewd enough to realise putting Hogan over didn’t help him long term, and wasn’t enthusiastic about helping a sad old man have another moment at his expense. He literally did put him over just a couple of weeks after Wrestlemania on an indy show though so it doesn't really make sense if that's the case. If you're going to put him over why not at least get a massive payday out of it in a marquee Wrestlemania match. I wouldn't be shocked if JR is remembering things wrong. Not only has Big Show never had a problem losing as others have said he's also close with Hogan and credits him for helping him out and working with him at the beginning of his career.
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Post by bluebeach25 on Aug 6, 2022 15:51:25 GMT -5
At that point Show had a lot more to give as a performer whereas Hogan was already waaaayyyyy past his prime. Show was surely shrewd enough to realise putting Hogan over didn’t help him long term, and wasn’t enthusiastic about helping a sad old man have another moment at his expense. He literally did put him over just a couple of weeks after Wrestlemania on an indy show though so it doesn't really make sense if that's the case. If you're going to put him over why not at least get a massive payday out of it in a marquee Wrestlemania match. I wouldn't be shocked if JR is remembering things wrong. Not only has Big Show never had a problem losing as others have said he's also close with Hogan and credits him for helping him out and working with him at the beginning of his career. There is a difference at losing in front of a Wrestlemania Record Crowd (at that time) or at a houseshow. But i agree i doubt Big Show was ever a guy to don't do the job for anyone let alone Hulk Hogan. Didn't Show even cryed at Hogan HOF Speech! I think it was more that Hogan and Vince couldn't agree on things and it just didn't happened, and honestly who would have want so see it? Hogan in 2007 had nothing to do in the Ring anymore and the Match would have been awful.
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Aug 6, 2022 19:59:28 GMT -5
He literally did put him over just a couple of weeks after Wrestlemania on an indy show though so it doesn't really make sense if that's the case. If you're going to put him over why not at least get a massive payday out of it in a marquee Wrestlemania match. I wouldn't be shocked if JR is remembering things wrong. Not only has Big Show never had a problem losing as others have said he's also close with Hogan and credits him for helping him out and working with him at the beginning of his career. There is a difference at losing in front of a Wrestlemania Record Crowd (at that time) or at a houseshow. But i agree i doubt Big Show was ever a guy to don't do the job for anyone let alone Hulk Hogan. Didn't Show even cryed at Hogan HOF Speech! I think it was more that Hogan and Vince couldn't agree on things and it just didn't happened, and honestly who would have want so see it? Hogan in 2007 had nothing to do in the Ring anymore and the Match would have been awful. I mean... Hogan put Show in the initial "Giant vs Hogan" feud. I mean... Giant beat Hogan in his first official match, for the World Title. It doesn't get bigger than that. Can you even imagine someone beating Roman in their first match ever??
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