markymark
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Post by markymark on Aug 9, 2022 10:28:48 GMT -5
It's like they have a beginning, some vague idea of the end, but no idea what the middle is or how to progress the story to said middle And then once that end happens, and it's all "well now what" TK is like "they're the champion now..." Okay, but NOW WHAT?! Which is exactly what happened to Rosa, to Hangman, and what will probably happen to whomever beats Jade. Khan stuck his foot in his mouth with the black people comment to Swole tho I thought she was going win before that but that sort of sold it on top of Khan wanting to make her look like a megastar so the shortcut of holding the title for a long time is "easiest" path The womens babyface title runs have been very lacking so when Athena or Stat beat Jade eventually, I am sort of afraid of their run not being all that good. His booking weaknesses had been coming to the surface for awhile before that comment, but it was that comment/Swole situation that really took the shine off of him for me. And honestly the more stupid shit he does, or says, or cringe photographs are taken during media scrums, the more I don't think I can look past any of it.
He's effectively the reason I can't watch the product with the same enjoyment that I used to. And he continues to do shit that reaffirms how I feel about him as a person, and as a booker.
Recently there has been people mocking TK because he was dancing with Sammy and Tay on their wedding like for some reason he cant have fun, its no different than what Scott DAmore does with talent on his free time.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Aug 9, 2022 10:34:16 GMT -5
And then once that end happens, and it's all "well now what" TK is like "they're the champion now..." Okay, but NOW WHAT?! Which is exactly what happened to Rosa, to Hangman, and what will probably happen to whomever beats Jade. His booking weaknesses had been coming to the surface for awhile before that comment, but it was that comment/Swole situation that really took the shine off of him for me. And honestly the more stupid shit he does, or says, or cringe photographs are taken during media scrums, the more I don't think I can look past any of it.
He's effectively the reason I can't watch the product with the same enjoyment that I used to. And he continues to do shit that reaffirms how I feel about him as a person, and as a booker.
Recently there has been people mocking TK because he was dancing with Sammy and Tay on their wedding like for some reason he cant have fun, its no different than what Scott DAmore does with talent on his free time.
I'm not saying I agree with the mindset, but I think people are starting to grow wary of Tony because he looks like he's trying *too* hard to be the cool boss who is your pal. |
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 9, 2022 11:32:47 GMT -5
Recently there has been people mocking TK because he was dancing with Sammy and Tay on their wedding like for some reason he cant have fun, its no different than what Scott DAmore does with talent on his free time.
I'm not saying I agree with the mindset, but I think people are starting to grow wary of Tony because he looks like he's trying *too* hard to be the cool boss who is your pal. The hug Tony gave to Nyla two years ago on Dynamite after she won the Women's World title from Riho was supposed to be endearing, but came off unintentionally hilarious to me because of Nyla's "WTF?!" reaction to it. |
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Post by markymark on Aug 9, 2022 11:44:42 GMT -5
I'm not saying I agree with the mindset, but I think people are starting to grow wary of Tony because he looks like he's trying *too* hard to be the cool boss who is your pal. The hug Tony gave to Nyla two years ago on Dynamite after she won the Women's World title from Riho was supposed to be endearing, but came off unintentionally hilarious to me because of Nyla's "WTF?!" reaction to it.
Oh yeah that was really funny, and barely anyone complained about it iirc.
Back on topic if TK is going to be more busy with the NFL returning he should consider delegating the Women division to both Madison and Kenny, Madison can help with the character aspect and Kenny helps with the wrestling, after All Out it should be a proper reset for the division.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 9, 2022 11:46:58 GMT -5
Without Vince McMahon being a tinpot dictator, it does seem like wrestling is filled with "cool" bosses. Triple H and Stephanie (despite what fans think of her, she's incredibly well liked by the wrestlers) , Tony Khan, and Scott D'Amore. WWE has Nick Khan to play the bad guy. I guess Impact has Anthem corporate. AEW needs a bad guy who can execute the tough decisions.
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 9, 2022 11:50:45 GMT -5
Without Vince McMahon being a tinpot dictator, it does seem like wrestling is filled with "cool" bosses. Triple H and Stephanie (despite what fans think of her, she's incredibly well liked by the wrestlers) , Tony Khan, and Scott D'Amore. WWE has Nick Khan to play the bad guy. I guess Impact has Anthem corporate. AEW needs a bad guy who can execute the tough decisions. |
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Post by CeilingFan on Aug 9, 2022 12:01:38 GMT -5
I don't care if it is Athena or Statlander, but Jade needs to lose the TBS title at All Out.
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Post by The Trashman on Aug 9, 2022 12:55:34 GMT -5
Khan has absolutely no idea how to book Jade Cargill. He's booked her as invincible for the past two years. She's never suffered any setbacks or weakness.
Mansoor was undefeated for like 3 years, winning doesn't mean you are actually being presented as a big deal and showcased. |
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Post by Main Eventer on Aug 9, 2022 13:17:44 GMT -5
Without Vince McMahon being a tinpot dictator, it does seem like wrestling is filled with "cool" bosses. Triple H and Stephanie (despite what fans think of her, she's incredibly well liked by the wrestlers) , Tony Khan, and Scott D'Amore. WWE has Nick Khan to play the bad guy. I guess Impact has Anthem corporate. AEW needs a bad guy who can execute the tough decisions. Vince McMahon is All Elite... |
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Aug 9, 2022 19:57:00 GMT -5
And then once that end happens, and it's all "well now what" TK is like "they're the champion now..." Okay, but NOW WHAT?! Which is exactly what happened to Rosa, to Hangman, and what will probably happen to whomever beats Jade. His booking weaknesses had been coming to the surface for awhile before that comment, but it was that comment/Swole situation that really took the shine off of him for me. And honestly the more stupid shit he does, or says, or cringe photographs are taken during media scrums, the more I don't think I can look past any of it.
He's effectively the reason I can't watch the product with the same enjoyment that I used to. And he continues to do shit that reaffirms how I feel about him as a person, and as a booker. Recently there has been people mocking TK because he was dancing with Sammy and Tay on their wedding like for some reason he cant have fun, its no different than what Scott DAmore does with talent on his free time.
I think it's less that he can't have fun and more like Ben said, it's like he's trying way too hard to be the "cool boss", but is so damned awkward it feels forced and there's nothing cool about it. He strikes me as a dude who grew up not having any friends, so he started a wrestling company and bought some. That's the vibe it gives off. Not that he can't have fun. Just that he doesn't know how to organically. Coupled with that shit he pulled with Swole and it feels like he's a summertime friend. And put friend as "friend". |
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Post by markymark on Aug 9, 2022 20:32:11 GMT -5
Thats just opinion, I believe his biggest weaknesses right now are his stubbornness in trying to make some wrestlers something and the tendency of doing last mins changes as Jack Evans pointed out.
In a way I could say that he got lucky with Jade because she was put into a swim or sink position and despite the clunky booking she has done better than expected. If her reign doesnt end at All Out then it gotta end at Grandslam.
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Aug 10, 2022 21:44:38 GMT -5
I don't care if it is Athena or Statlander, but Jade needs to lose the TBS title at All Out. If not I am going to let out a big UGH like Charlie Brown |
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Post by markymark on Aug 10, 2022 21:53:50 GMT -5
With Kris now officially out, gotta be Athena the one who dethrones Jade because otherwise who is left? Shida?
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Post by asuka007 on Aug 10, 2022 22:06:21 GMT -5
Tony dragged this out for so long and now Kris is injured.
Get to the freaking point already.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 10, 2022 22:45:38 GMT -5
Ideally Athena wins and this belt finally starts to have more of a purpose than being an arbitrary way to make Jade's squashes look important but at this point I feel like they're going to ride this to 50 wins. And given how rarely Jade actually wrestles that'll probably last another year.
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Post by asuka007 on Aug 10, 2022 23:08:27 GMT -5
Also FFS can Jade at least get beat up?
Even Roman Reigns gets laid out occasionally.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 10, 2022 23:11:38 GMT -5
Also FFS can Jade at least get beat up? Even Roman Reigns gets laid out occasionally. She at least looked a little vulnerable this week, being beaten down by Athena and having to be bailed out so she could run away, but they do still go pretty absurd a lot of the time in how absolutely no one can appear to be at her level. |
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Post by AwamoriRock on Aug 10, 2022 23:19:25 GMT -5
With Kris now officially out, gotta be Athena the one who dethrones Jade because otherwise who is left? Shida? I’d likely go Athena, since she needs a jolt. Shida would be fun but her first title reign was marred by her not being on TV. If Makai is really becoming monthly and she’s taking on big matches in Ice Ribbon, WAVE, etc, it just feels like it could potentially be a recipe for the same and it’s not like she’s a TV regular at the moment. |
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Post by clifford on Aug 11, 2022 7:40:41 GMT -5
Sucks so much that Kris got hurt. Athena being the one to end Jade's undefeated run and take the TBS title won't be nearly as big a moment as Kris taking it would've been.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 11, 2022 7:47:43 GMT -5
Sucks so much that Kris got hurt. Athena being the one to end Jade's undefeated run and take the TBS title won't be nearly as big a moment as Kris taking it would've been. She would have been a perfect workhorse midcard champion, too |
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