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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 12, 2022 17:27:07 GMT -5
Based on the WWE version of the thread: officialfan.proboards.com/thread/622069/least-favourite-thing-wrestlersI'll start: CM Punk: He's never been graceful with high spots. Bryan Danielson: Can be reckless with his head during matches. Jon Moxley: "Wild Thing" doesn't fit with his entrance video as well as "Unscripted Violence" did. I'd like to see him in less bloody matches so they'll feel more special again. Also want to see some comedy from Moxley again so long as it's not forced like it sometimes was in his WWE run. Orange Cassidy: His character looked like a dumbass for constantly getting low-blowed by Adam Cole up until their Unsanctioned match. Danhausen: Sure, he's not going to be AEW World Champion, but I wish he could win a little more often. Adam Cole: Heel character has been the same since the ROH days. Being away from reDRagon and The Elite, along with turning face eventually could help. Hikaru Shida: The Tamashii was a better finisher. The Katana has an awkward setup. Kris Statlander: I miss the booping and alien tendencies. Hope she'll bring those back when she returns from injury. Toni Storm: Needs to ease up on the Rump Shaker, since it could potentially concuss more of her opponents. Jamie Hayter: Most matches with her or Britt Baker in them have too much interference.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2022 17:27:52 GMT -5
Malakai - Much better as a loner babyface IMO
CM Punk - Has always been a little sloppy in the ring (still putting in some of the best in ring work of his career since coming to AEW IMO)
Mox - I can't disagree about LOLMOXWINS being a thing
Jade - Still has a long way to go in the ring, the match with Madison was rough
Toni Storm - I think you can tell when she's phoning it in (thankfully there have been no signs of it since joining AEW so far)
Darby - I just might watch this guy die in the ring someday
Jamie Hayter - Still hasn't beaten D.M.D.'s ass yet
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Post by Fade on Aug 12, 2022 18:06:28 GMT -5
Mox - not too much character progression. Last time there were signs of it the rehab stint happened. Also, he could use to switch shit/style up in promos a bit. Thunder Rosa - does seem to be a little bit if an ego. Leaves a lot to be desired on the mic. Swerve & Lee - ..honestly can’t think of any but the teasing rift I could do w/o. Wahrdawg - minuscule but should work on personal aspects of his presentation. Surface stuff. Not his fault but he’s being bogged down by Jay f***ING lethal. Jade - will probably always have to work on her in ring game The acclaimed- do not have Billy Gunn and the assboys with them Danielson - character works been all over the place in AEW. FTR - The meltzer thing kind of irked me. Iono if it was said in jest or not. The association with Punk irks me cause Punk irks me. Jericho - Painmaker is lame AF Christian Cage - I guess his heel works alright but the “saying shocking things for the sake of it” not only was getting old but felt bit off MJF. Best Friends - I know apathy’s OC’s shtick but I can’t tell if it’s serious or not sometimes with Trent and Chuck and sometimes I feel it stalls them. Garcia - is improving on the mic but could use to switch his cadence up. Small thing. Dante Martin - absolutely needs to work on the character/mic stuff. Darby Allin - character stuff seems stunted. Some of his art videos are hit or miss with me and honestly? How reckless he can be at times cause I’m still a big fan. Silver - he’s kind of got this “awkward, whatever” thing about him at times and it stalls him. More so on tv than BTE. Jungle boy - good lord, the mic skills. Kenny Omega - ISNT FRICKEN HERE YET Matt Jackson - he’s a little too showy and tries too much with promos. If he pulled it on back, he and his mic work would come off much more effective. Black - The promos sometimes reek of that bray Wyatt -high school emo - saying a lot of nothing - ness. Penta - He’s sloppy. He overdoes it with the taunts. And the whole losing his mask shit makes him come of like a major dork lately. Samoa Joe - I never see him. Yuta - probably the character stuff. Leaves a lil to be desired. For now it works as the rookie underdog with heart thing..but could use a lil more. Reminds me of X Pac in the late 90s. Anna Jay - mic skills but she working on it. Athena - comes off ..heelish at times. Iono if it’s me. This one’s hard to pin down. Britt Baker - love my girl but she is overexposed. TBH there were a LOT of favorites I couldn’t think of a least favorite thing about ‘em.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 12, 2022 18:18:07 GMT -5
A lot of the younger high flyers - Need to learn to not be 100% high octane all the time. That's going to be hell on their bodies as they get older. Plus as exhilarating as it can get be in isolation, keeping it up constantly can be exhausting from a fans' standpoint. Not that they have to turn into Randy Orton with restholds or anything.
MJF - I really didn't like the worked shoot stuff happening with his last appearance.
Jade - Still really green. It gets leeway because she's got that intangible star presence, but working longer matches tends to expose her shortcomings.
Thunder Rosa - Not a great talker outside of a specific kind of promo that she excels at.
Britt Baker - Gets a little too cute with the inside baseball terms lately. I'd say "her matches have way too much blatant interference" but I put that more on booking.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2022 18:32:32 GMT -5
Chris Jericho - Hangs out with Sammy Guevara Buddy Matthews - Really doesn't fit with House of Black Adam Cole - I want to see him as face, I think he's super played out as a heel MJF - Wasn't a big fan of the worked shoot stuff in his last promo, even if the crowd ate it up Orange Cassidy - I still prefer "Where Is My Mind?" for him as a theme And not a wrestler, buuuuut.... Tony Khan - Still hasn't signed this man
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 12, 2022 18:38:37 GMT -5
Swerve & Lee - ..honestly can’t think of any but the teasing rift I could do w/o. Samoa Joe - I never see him. True, I've already seen Swerve as a heel in more than one promotion (EVOLVE, MLW, WWE) that I'd like for him to get a long face run once again. As for Joe, it is f***ed up that despite beating Lethal at Death Before Dishonor, I'm still seeing more of him on AEW TV than Joe for some reason.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 12, 2022 19:19:43 GMT -5
Joe's doing a lot of outside stuff lately. It sucks not seeing him, but I get it.
And good call on Adam Cole. Between how long he's been a heel and his "Chugs" personality being so damned lovable, I really want to see him have a face run.
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 12, 2022 19:39:28 GMT -5
I love all of these guys
Young Bucks - sometimes they lean too much into being purposely OTT to piss certain people off that it interferes with their matches
Mox - bleeds way too often in his matches when it isn't needed. And his hammer and anvil elbows usually look pretty bad
House of Black - too many promos that are supposed to be deep and dark but are really just pretentious nonsense
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Aug 12, 2022 21:28:52 GMT -5
Cole-Needs to evolve his character more. Hasn't really gone anywhere with it since his time in ROH it feels like.
Darby-Needs more direction with his stories again. Felt kind of aimless as of late.
Adam Page-Same with Darby really. Felt like he peaked with his title win.
Britt Baker-I mean.....we all know what it is. I love her but she is WAY overexposed.
Kingston-Not really something he can control but his bite needs to match his bark.
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Post by J is Justice on Aug 12, 2022 22:23:02 GMT -5
Jamie Hayter: Needs to feud with Brit, already.
Hook: Wish he had longer matches.
Danhausen: See above.
Ruby: I actually don't like her new finisher.
Punk: Not a huge fan of the GTS, either.
Skye Blue: Her ring attire is distracting as f*** (wish I was joking).
Emi Sakura: Has she had a match on Dynamite or Rampage, yet?
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Post by Jake, The Jake, Jake on Aug 12, 2022 22:49:15 GMT -5
Danielson - was way cooler as a lone dickhead than playing fourth banana in BCC
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2022 23:07:37 GMT -5
Danhausen - if they can make OC a dangerous wrestler despite his shtick, they can do the same with Danhausen.
Mox - Love Mox, but dude needs a proverbial "fresh coat of paint"
Best Friends - They need something beyond "OC's buddies"
Swerve and Lee - Let them be a legit buddy tag team and quit with the Swerve heel tease. It's lame.
Darby Allin - Dude has a f***ing deathwish
Lucha Bros - been aimless and kind of losers since losing the tag belts
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Post by canceled4truth on Aug 13, 2022 0:08:54 GMT -5
Punk - I could do without ever seeing him attempt a high-flying move again. Malakai Black - Desperately needs an editor for his storylines. Danielson - Seemingly has a deathwish. Statlander - Hurt too much Andrade - The most notable match he's participated in since joining AEW was participating in his father-in-law's euthanasia. For a different company. Thankfully. FTR - Dax needs to get off Twitter. Christian - "4chan edgelord" is a wild gimmick for a 50 year old man. MJF - MISSING. HAVE YOU SEEN HIM? IF FOUND, PLEASE RETURN TO JACKSONVILLE, FL OR STAMFORD, CT Hayter - Needs a character beyond "Britt's lackey who will eventually betray her," if only because they've been teasing said betrayal since, like, the show after she debuted.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 13, 2022 0:20:38 GMT -5
Danielson - gives me heart attacks on the regular with his selling and head bumps
Pentagon - rudderless and it kills me
The Acclaimed - he hasn't lately but Max flies way too close to the sun sometimes
Wardlow - HE DOESN'T WRESTLE IN A SUIT WHY ISN'T HE WRESTLING IN A SUIT HE'D LOOK SO GOOD WRESTLING IN A SUIT
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Post by Mike Strike on Aug 13, 2022 3:16:05 GMT -5
CM Punk: The grey facial hair really isn't a good look. Jade: I will never have a shot. Jericho: Polical views, wrecklessness during pandemic with his side gigs. Orange Cassidy: Feels like he's just doing paying lip service to his gimmick. The same few spots over and over but otherwise wrestling normally. MJF: *gestures broadly*
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Aug 13, 2022 4:04:45 GMT -5
Orange Cassidy: Has felt like he's on auto-pilot for a long, long time. Every match and feud is kinda the same.
Darby: I don't mind him wanting to be Jeff Hardy 2.0, but for god's sake reel it in a bit. That ladder bump was disgusting. You know which one.
Those are the 2 that immediately spring to mind. I have other issues with people (like Malakai, and Miro, and Lucha Bros, f***ing DANHAUSEN, etc) but every single one of them is due to the guy that runs the show.
I feel like independent of TK, OC could do something outside his usual schtick, and Darby could chill the f*** out.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Aug 13, 2022 8:37:46 GMT -5
CM Punk - I never need to see him attempt a flippy high spot again
Bryan Danielson - I wish he'd be a bit more careful with his injury history
Kenny Omega - he's not great on the mic
Adam Page - He was fine as a fighting champion but it really does feel like the chase was better than the catch with his title reign
Hikaru Shida - they don't use her enough, she's good enough to be used as much as Britt is
Darby Allin - he needs to look at Jeff Hardy as a cautionary tale a bit more
MJF - needs to be back on TV. I'm not sure how much of a work his present frustration is or not but I feel it's playing against his strength as the most punchable man in wrestling
Jon Moxley - he needs to dial back on the bloodshed and save it for his biggest matches; they stop being special when he does it every week
Malakai Black - needs a big feud that doesn't involve him messing with a midcarder for several months; dude should be messing with Punk or Moxley or someone who actually matters
Eddie Kingston - they really need to just give him some high profile wins already. he's starting to look like a choke artist
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 13, 2022 9:07:00 GMT -5
Emi Sakura: Has she had a match on Dynamite or Rampage, yet? The last time she was on Dynamite was December 2019 against Big Swole from what Cagematch says. Yeah, it's been way too long of a TV absence for her, even well after the travel restrictions in 2020.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2022 10:12:54 GMT -5
Danhausen - could stand to be a little more selfish with that win-loss record.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 13, 2022 11:36:15 GMT -5
Emi Sakura: Has she had a match on Dynamite or Rampage, yet? The last time she was on Dynamite was December 2019 against Big Swole from what Cagematch says. Yeah, it's been way too long of a TV absence for her, even well after the travel restrictions in 2020. I have to say it's nice that the general reaction to Emi (on here and on the internet in general) has changed from "the Freddie Mercury gimmick is stupid. Why did AEW bother bringing her in? Outlaw mudshow!" to "how is someone this good not on TV?"
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