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Post by BatPunk on Aug 13, 2022 1:02:23 GMT -5
It begs the question.
Was Nick Khan really the bad guy when people were getting fired, or was he just someone hired to take the heat and everything was Vince’s decision?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2022 1:09:16 GMT -5
It begs the question. Was Nick Khan really the bad guy when people were getting fired, or was he just someone hired to take the heat and everything was Vince’s decision? Both. I imagine it went something like: Vince - "Let's cut costs to increase profits" Khan - "We'll start with talent contracts" Vince - "Ha. Ha. That's ruthless. Goddamn, pal, I love it. Just don't cut anyone on this list"
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Aug 13, 2022 1:14:00 GMT -5
Yeah, my guess has been both. Khan probably suggested it, Vince went wild because the powerful Hollywood man said so and no one had any power to sway him.
Now HHH is like, “Dude, Nick. These guys can also make us money” and Nick is clearly open to the conversation.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 13, 2022 1:19:29 GMT -5
Yeah, Nick probably said we need to cut people because our roster is so bloated and we could make more money with less contracts.
now I'm not sure who brought up who specifically to fire, but Vince was the one that had to stamp it.
and I'm sure that HHH is also working within a definitive budget.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 13, 2022 1:35:15 GMT -5
For instance in no way do I see Vince looking at Bray and Braun and cutting them.
Those are spreadsheet cuts.
as in we see how much money they bring in and what they cost us... and then look at some other sheet and see we've got Omos and Azeez who are also big and therefore can fill whatever niche Braun had for a fraction of the cost.
Probably Ditto with Bray and Alexa...
Ignoring that Omos and Azeez absolutely can not do what Braun did.
Nor did Alexa and Bray really fill the same Niche...
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 13, 2022 7:11:56 GMT -5
I really hope these guys have come back on new contracts that are basically the same as the same as their old ones and haven't been screwed over, money wise.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 13, 2022 7:23:35 GMT -5
I think it was more likely Khan said "We need to cut people, who do you see potential in?" It's also been said by Meltzer in Alvarez that if you aren't a handpicked guy by Vince you had 3 weeks to basically prove yourself and if Vince didn't come away impressed you went to back of line. Since Vince was tunnel visioned I think he just cut people after they didn't initially impress
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Post by papagiorgio on Aug 13, 2022 8:41:51 GMT -5
I imagine Kahn wanted to cut expenses for the financials and mentioned cutting talent. Some higher ups probably came up with lists of names. Vince probably gave the final thumbs up or down to individuals on it. I would be kind of surprised if he came up with the lists himself.
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Post by joeiscool on Aug 13, 2022 8:48:05 GMT -5
I mean if they are maybe cutting nxt uk it might still be about cuts just HHH is cutting something different.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Aug 13, 2022 10:40:13 GMT -5
Vince hired Khan because he wanted to increase the stock price and make more money. Khan didnt tell Vince anything he hasnt been told before (cut unused talent), he just did it in a way Vince would listen to.
I imagine Khan put together a list of people who had not been used regularly and people who had contracts that their push did not justify (Black, Bray, Braun). Vince approved who he wanted and that was that.
Some of those cases like Braun I would bet Khan told Vince they could be let go and rehired for less money.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Aug 13, 2022 13:01:20 GMT -5
Nick Khan probably gave Vince a big list of people who if cut would reduce the wage cost expecting Vince to fire half at most, Vince went full Vince fired all of them with a few extra (either to keep the locker room on their toes, or because they sneezed/took the last snow cone/said no to a requested storyline/kept coming to Vince with ideas to get out of the terrible one they were stuck in/wouldnt shave their damned sideburns/kept kicking him out of the poke gym closest to titan towers. delete as applicable).
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Aug 13, 2022 14:12:35 GMT -5
everyone in Nick Khans position no matter the job is a bad person
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Post by darbus alan on Aug 13, 2022 14:20:20 GMT -5
Nick Khan was made something of a scapegoat for all the releases. It was Vince. It was always Vince.
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Post by Venti on Aug 13, 2022 14:47:43 GMT -5
They were doing big release waves before Nick Khan. Granted most of them weren't shocking like, say, Bray or Braun's releases were.
But I think it all came down to Vince at the end of the day. I think if he suddenly felt like a wrestler wasn't worth keeping on the roster, he had no qualms getting rid of them.
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