Why Is Gone With The Wind a Cinematic Masterpiece?

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

Aug 28, 2022 10:08:32 GMT -5 Lupin the Third said:

Aug 24, 2022 4:16:20 GMT -5 thechase said:

Did anyone bother with the sequel 'Scarlett' decades later with completely different actors?

THEY MADE A SEQUEL?!!!

It was indeed terrible.

[thechase]

Aug 28, 2022 10:08:32 GMT -5 Lupin the Third said:

Aug 24, 2022 4:16:20 GMT -5 thechase said:

Did anyone bother with the sequel 'Scarlett' decades later with completely different actors?

THEY MADE A SEQUEL?!!!

Yeah, not even a theatrical one. Think it was a TV Mini-Series.

[prettynami]

Well, that sequel certainly has an interesting cast - I will give it that. Like I love me some Sean Bean and Timothy Dalton.... and Colm Meaney? These are certainly names I would associate with Gone With The Wind!!!

Personally I think the original movie has inadvertently stood the test of time. The characters are generally the kind of un-sympathetic and unlikable people you would expect. Everything they touch turns to poop. I really don't get the love story bits though and how associated the movie is with romance... Like for some reason I just don't feel the GREAT LOVE STORY part of it. Scarlett O'Hare comes off as a capricious chase who will go after whatever suits her in the moment. In fact she does so in ways that come off villainous. The movie does have these BIG SWEEPING scenes of "romance" but in the context of the film they come off as fleeting moments of the characters not being their usual jerk selves. Maybe I just don't get the romance parts.

[horsemen4ever]

My feeling on this and all movie like this, which sadly is most movies now a days. A 90 minute movie is an endanger specie.

[XIII]

There is absolutely no way to properly understand how a movie about the Civil War was viewed in 1939.

Outside of that, I think that it is well made for its era ad while I’m not a huge fan of it I can see how people were invested in the Rhett/Scarlett romance. Also while it is pretty long, modern audiences have the attention span of a fruitfly just due to how life is now, so I’m not sure how fair that is either.

In short, I don’t love it and I’ll likely never watch it again, but it’s not without its merits.

[Duke Cameron]

I remember, AFI's was doing their 100 Years... 100 American Movies list at the time and Blockbuster was promoting it with a checklist guide. I was determined to watch as many of the movies on the list that I could, ended up loving GWTW so much that I found the novel, saw it in theaters when it was rereleased and bought a 2 VHS tape box set of the film that I found at Blockbuster. I believe the list was also responsible for me discovering another favorite film of mine, Amadeus. (1984) On the other hand, I legitimately found another film on the list, Casablanca to be boring and uninteresting.

Here’s the original list:


2. Casablanca (1942)
3. The Godfather (1972)
4. Gone with the Wind (1939)
5. Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
6. The Wizard of Oz (1939)
7. The Graduate (1967)
8. On the Waterfront (1954)
9. Schindler's List (1993)
10. Singin' in the Rain (1952)
11. It's a Wonderful Life (1946)
12. Sunset Blvd. (1950)
13. The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957)
14. Some Like It Hot (1959)
15. Star Wars (1977)
16. All About Eve (1950)
17. The African Queen (1951)
18. Psycho (1960)
19. Chinatown (1974)
20. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)
21. The Grapes of Wrath (1940)
22. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
23. The Maltese Falcon (1941)
24. Raging Bull (1980)
25. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
26. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964)
27. Bonnie and Clyde (1967)
28. Apocalypse Now (1979)
29. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939)
30. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948)
31. Annie Hall (1977)
32. The Godfather Part II (1974)
33. High Noon (1952)
34. To Kill a Mockingbird (1962)
35. It Happened One Night (1934)
36. Midnight Cowboy (1969)
37. The Best Years of Our Lives (1946)
38. Double Indemnity (1944)
39. Doctor Zhivago (1965)
40. North by Northwest (1959)
41. West Side Story (1961)
42. Rear Window (1954)
43. King Kong (1933)
44. The Birth of a Nation (1915)
45. A Streetcar Named Desire (1951)
46. A Clockwork Orange (1971)
47. Taxi Driver (1976)
48. Jaws (1975)
49. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
50. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969)
51. The Philadelphia Story (1940)
52. From Here to Eternity (1953)
53. Amadeus (1984)
54. All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
55. The Sound of Music (1965)
56. M*A*S*H (1970)
57. The Third Man (1950)
58. Fantasia (1940)
59. Rebel Without a Cause (1955)
60. Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
61. Vertigo (1958)
62. Tootsie (1982)
63. Stagecoach (1939)
64. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977)
65. The Silence of the Lambs (1991)
66. Network (1976)
67. The Manchurian Candidate (1962)
68. An American in Paris (1951)
69. Shane (1953)
70. The French Connection (1971)
71. Forrest Gump (1994)
72. Ben-Hur (1959)
73. Wuthering Heights (1939)
74. The Gold Rush (1925)
75. Dances with Wolves (1990)
76. City Lights (1931)
77. American Graffiti (1973)
78. Rocky (1976)
79. The Deer Hunter (1978)
80. The Wild Bunch (1969)
81. Modern Times (1936)
82. Giant (1956)
83. Platoon (1986)
84. Fargo (1996)
85. Duck Soup (1933)
86. Mutiny on the Bounty (1935)
87. Frankenstein (1931)
88. Easy Rider (1969)
89. Patton (1970)
90. The Jazz Singer (1927)
91. My Fair Lady (1964)
92. A Place in the Sun (1951)
93. The Apartment (1960)
94. Goodfellas (1990)
95. Pulp Fiction (1994)
96. The Searchers (1956)
97. Bringing Up Baby (1938)
98. Unforgiven (1992)
99. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner (1967)
100. Yankee Doodle Dandy (1942)

[Banjo Is Broken]

Would rather watch a biopic about Scarlet from G.I. Joe or Scarlett Bordeaux but I'm a fairly simple man with fairly simple tastes.

[jimmyjackezekiel]

"I though Scarlett was a ho 'cause she went to bed with everyone but Mammy."

-Paul Mooney.

[tirtefaa]

Aug 26, 2022 2:52:19 GMT -5 Jedi-El of Tomorrow said:

Aug 25, 2022 3:00:26 GMT -5 DichEvans said:

90% of the films that win an Oscar won it because someone politicked. I forgot who, but someone wrote an article how Harvey Weinstein would use shady tactics to pretty much buy Oscar wins for him films.

If you ever want to see good films, go to a film festival. Tons of talented directors and producers who get like no attention

Shakespeare in Love beating Saving Private Ryan is the ultimate example of that.

Also Crash beating Brokeback Mountain..

Ordinary People beating Raging Bull

Going My Way beating Double Indemnity

Kramer vs. Kramer beating Apocalypse Now

The Greatest Show on Earth beating The Quiet Man

Around the World in 80 Days beating all the other nominees

And probably the most egregious The English Patient beating Fargo

[Flo360]

Aug 23, 2022 17:10:52 GMT -5 @selhurst said:

Similarities with Titanic depicts events 80 odd years prior as well as could be done with the production equipment available at the time. Gable and Leigh similar to DiCaprio and Winslet in star power, loved upon release but people had tired of it years later to decide one viewing was enough.

Since everybody in this thread already stood up for Casablanca (and rightfully so), let me be the first to say that the above is also a shallow take on Titanic, which might be Camerons finest hour as a director of the biggest possible movies. (And that is saying something)

FYI Titanic is not a movie about the central love story. The love story is a frame for all the little vignettes, which Cameron build that movie around, to exist. It is an marvel of structured film making and craft. Titanic rules!