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Post by The Captain on Nov 21, 2022 21:43:48 GMT -5
Punk is a litigious asshole, but even if the Elite somehow got the Prudential Center Jumbotron to flash "Chant 'f*** CM Punk' really loud!" it's not against the law.
I hate to give the absurd Kyrie Irving comparison anything resembling legitimacy, but he didn't face any legal consequences either. He was a moron, but not a legally liable one.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Nov 21, 2022 21:44:53 GMT -5
Mighty fine thread about muffins and scrums we had here...
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 21, 2022 21:45:49 GMT -5
Punk is a litigious asshole, but even if the Elite somehow got the Prudential Center Jumbotron to flash "Chant 'f*** CM Punk' really loud!" it's not against the law. Im also gonna assume if they brought Megha to Punk's room for the discussion they wanted to have, they absolutely screened BTE with HR to make sure that everything they posted was fine and would be ok to upload to the internet for every eyeball to see.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Nov 21, 2022 21:47:29 GMT -5
Intense, seething malice? It's really not that deep. I'm not a lawyer, clearly, and I'm not in lawsuit happy America (no offense to anyone but that's how it's seen from the outside, and Punk is hardly shy to this practice either) It just seems like poking the bear when the bear is probably looking for lunch I do think if we're talking about poking bears or what Punk could sue over, Punk and his side kept leaking stories where the Bucks were the aggressors, kicked his door down, even hurt his dog, and frankly, if there are lawsuits that could be handed out, that is basically slander lol I do get your point though, I think it's best that's where it's left, but I still don't blame The Elite for doing it even if some people believe they shouldn't have for these reasons. That is true, I feel it's gonna be one of those situations where we never really find out what happened because both sides are gonna stick to their stories. I just wanna say I wasn't trying to cause an issue with anyone or derail a fun thread. I've not followed the story past the initial weekend that closely and just had my thoughts on the BTE footage. I watch less wrestling than I ever have these days and tbh it does feel like if I comment something negative about AEW I get a bunch of people telling me my opinion is wrong. I do have plenty of negative opinions about WWE for the record haha. But yeah, sorry if I derailed the fun thread, that wasn't my intention.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Nov 21, 2022 21:47:45 GMT -5
I wonder what the natural end of the thread would be. Punk’s contract being bought out? Or him maybe returning to either promotion?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 21, 2022 21:48:47 GMT -5
I do think if we're talking about poking bears or what Punk could sue over, Punk and his side kept leaking stories where the Bucks were the aggressors, kicked his door down, even hurt his dog, and frankly, if there are lawsuits that could be handed out, that is basically slander lol I do get your point though, I think it's best that's where it's left, but I still don't blame The Elite for doing it even if some people believe they shouldn't have for these reasons. That is true, I feel it's gonna be one of those situations where we never really find out what happened because both sides are gonna stick to their stories. I just wanna say I wasn't trying to cause an issue with anyone or derail a fun thread. I've not followed the story past the initial weekend that closely and just had my thoughts on the BTE footage. I watch less wrestling than I ever have these days and tbh it does feel like if I comment something negative about AEW I get a bunch of people telling me my opinion is wrong. I do have plenty of negative opinions about WWE for the record haha. But yeah, sorry if I detailed the fun thread, that wasn't my intention. You're good dude, honestly I respect you apologizing and also apologize if I got you upset at all in my responses It definitely isn't worth locking one of the best threads this board has ever produced, not in the slightest, so I'm glad everything worked out ok!
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 21, 2022 21:49:14 GMT -5
I wonder what the natural end of the thread would be. Punk’s contract being bought out? Or him maybe returning to either promotion? If Punk returns at any point, this threads going till page 1000, guaranteed lmfao
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2022 21:49:58 GMT -5
Punk is a litigious asshole, but even if the Elite somehow got the Prudential Center Jumbotron to flash "Chant 'f*** CM Punk' really loud!" it's not against the law. I hate to give the absurd Kyrie Irving comparison anything resembling legitimacy, but he didn't face any legal consequences either. He was a moron, but not a legally liable one. I never said what he did was anything revolving around legality...I said it was visualized as promoting it. It was wasn't it? Same thing the Bucks did with the chant. I will leave that here though as there is no reason to defend anything that involves Kyrie ever.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Nov 21, 2022 21:50:29 GMT -5
I wonder what the natural end of the thread would be. Punk’s contract being bought out? Or him maybe returning to either promotion? Muffin Flavoured Ice Cream Bars
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Post by ChitownKnight on Nov 21, 2022 21:52:50 GMT -5
I wonder what the natural end of the thread would be. Punk’s contract being bought out? Or him maybe returning to either promotion? If Punk returns at any point, this threads going till page 1000, guaranteed lmfao I feel like that’s gonna happen before that. Punk if he returns won’t happen till mid 2023
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2022 21:53:17 GMT -5
I think another issue here is that opinions and statements are being merged together like telephone...Someone *who is obviously a much better writer than I* will eventually have to write the full story including all of the confusion we have created.
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Post by Fade on Nov 21, 2022 21:56:15 GMT -5
If Punk returns at any point, this threads going till page 1000, guaranteed lmfao I feel like that’s gonna happen before that. Punk if he returns won’t happen till mid 2023
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 21, 2022 22:00:32 GMT -5
This thread ends when Punk can actually hit a Buckshot without botching
See you guys on page 54,000
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Post by chazraps on Nov 21, 2022 22:02:30 GMT -5
Gang, it's the live entertainment business. If the crowd is chanting "f*** CM Punk" that loudly, even if you didn't start it, there's no harm in acknowledging it - and in terms of entertaining the crowd it's the right thing to do. They handled it perfectly as it happened. Yes, they've EVPs, but EVPs in any company who are in a live situation where a happy crowd is doing something, all things considered, harmless - you roll with it. That's them doing their job.
I haven't watched BTE yet so I'm withholding commenting my thoughts on the chant's inclusion in the clip until I see it.
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Post by lucas_lee on Nov 21, 2022 22:07:41 GMT -5
I do get what some folks are saying. It is a bad look for EVPs who just returned from suspension and then out of all of the clips in their awesome return match they also decided to put in the chants of someone theyre beefing with. Can you sue them? Nope
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 21, 2022 22:11:44 GMT -5
I do get what some folks are saying. It is a bad look for EVPs who just returned from suspension and then out of all of the clips in their awesome return match they also decided to put in the chants of someone theyre beefing with. Can you sue them? Nope Can you believe it's wrong for them to use the chant in a video? Yes Is it on the level some are trying to compare it to? Very debatable Can you actually take any actual legal action against them for including that chant in a video? No. That's pretty much what we learned lol
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 21, 2022 22:12:29 GMT -5
If I was them I would have taken the audio of that chant and set it to music. I would have done like five remixes throughout the episode. I would've set the chant to the whole of Wire's seminal 1977 post-punk groundwork Pink Flag and released the 'new' album on every music platform. That's 21 tracks of "f*** CM Punk" remixes. I'd advertise the album on Dynamite every week.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 21, 2022 22:17:34 GMT -5
If I was them I would have taken the audio of that chant and set it to music. I would have done like five remixes throughout the episode. I would've set the chant to the whole of Wire's seminal 1977 post-punk groundwork Pink Flag and released the 'new' album on every music platform. That's 21 tracks of "f*** CM Punk" remixes. I'd advertise the album on Dynamite every week. Set it to "Le Freak".
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Nov 21, 2022 22:23:35 GMT -5
Punk: "Your honor, 10,000 people chanted 'f*** CM Punk." Judge: "So you want to sue these three people for chanting this?" Punk: "No, they didn't chant it." Judge: "So, you want to sue them for starting the chant?" Punk: "No, they didn't start it either." Judge: "So what do you want to sue them for?" Punk: "They included it in their YouTube show." Judge: "And is this the only time the chant was ever heard?" Punk: "No, it was loudly chanted during the PPV." Judge: "Is this the only footage of the PPV shown during that YouTube video?" Punk: "No, they showed other parts." Judge: "Is it unusual for parts of PPVs to be shown in this YouTube show?" Punk: "No, they regularly show parts of matches and crowd reactions." Judge: "Get out of my court." Punk's version of the story:*CM Punk enters courtroom blasting Cult of Personality while women are throwing panties at him* Judge: Yes your Majesty? King Punk: I want to sue these guys. Judge: What did they do Your Grace? King Punk: They had an entire crowd chant "f*** CM Punk" *Courtroom gasps* *someone runs over to wipe the brow of the Judge who almost fainted* Judge: What do you propose we do your Royal Badassness? King Badass Punk: I want them fired. Judge: Where from? King Badass Punk: Out of a cannon. *Punk starts drinking a delicious Diet Pepsi* Judge: Into where My Liege? King Badass Thirsty Punk: Into a brick wall. Like George Carlin once said. Judge: Thy word is law and thy will be done, it shall be- King Badass Thirsty Has Great Taste in Comedians Punk: I'm not done. Judge: Yes your holiness? King Badass Thirsty Has Great Taste in Comedians and is now Pope or something Punk: I want to sue the crowd as well. Judge: All of them? King Badass Thirsty Has Great Taste in Comedians and is now Pope or something and doesn't get how the law works Punk: All of them. Judge: Your Grace I don't know if- *Punk gets visibly upset and approaches the bench* King Badass Thirsty Has Great Taste in Comedians and is now Pope or something and doesn't get how the law works Anger Management Punk: WHAT DO MY KNUCKLES SAY?! Judge: "Drug Free" Your Reverence. King Badass Thirsty Has Great Taste in Comedians and is now Pope or something and doesn't get how the law works Anger Management Punk: That's what I thought! Judge: But what does that have to do with- King Badass Thirsty Has Great Taste in Comedians and is now Pope or something and doesn't get how the law works Anger Management Punk: OBJECTION! Judge: I withdraw my statement. *Punk wins the lawsuits, everyone is punished, and all the gods of past and future come down to Earth to worship at CM Punk's feet* ---------------------------------------------------------- *Fred Savage lying in bed looking confused* "What the hell Grandpa?!"
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Post by Richard on Nov 21, 2022 22:30:31 GMT -5
Promotion of antisemitism compared to an anti-CM Punk chant, complaints about complaints about complaints, borderline trolling, and other assorted bullshit. I just can't see what purpose it serves to keep this open.
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