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Post by clifford on Nov 7, 2022 9:30:03 GMT -5
Actually, does TK own Cult of Personality for wrestling purposes? Or is it an agreement between the band and Punk?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2022 9:30:29 GMT -5
As someone who has had to take multiple classes and trainings on workplace conflicts, it's worth noting that bringing a neutral third party with you as a mediator to a dispute with a coworker is absolutely a thing you'd do. And especially with the Elite holding positions of power, bringing in legal is like, the move. I'm not seeing at all how The Elite were out of line in handling this. Also those trainings were just yearly requirements, I'm not like, a deviant at work or something, lol. This. I've dealt with interpersonal conflict situations at work where the he-said she-said was so bad that one of the parties straight up refused to be alone in a room with the other party without a third witness, precisely as a guard against unwarranted yet unproveable accusations. It's the same reason in healthcare that neutral chaperones are a thing when examining patients in certain contexts or sensitive situations. It's been said in this thread numerous times, but man, in addition to shining a spotlight on all the intractable Punk stans out there, it's also doing a damn good job of showing off who's never actually had to deal with a professional workplace. To be fair, for the average wrestler, beyond retail, wrestling is the only major industry that they worked for and it isn't exactly working as an accountant or IT or salesperson for a major company with a dedicated Human Resource. In fact, a lot of problems with the wrestling industry in general is that most did not learn proper workplace and professional etiquette. The average owner of a Fortune company would not put up with what happened in the media scrum or even let it happen in the first place. Hell, in most companies, posting controversial things on social media is a fireable offense. |
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Nov 7, 2022 9:33:32 GMT -5
I first heard Cult of Personality when the video debuted on MTV. Back when they actually played music videos. I work with children... What about me? I’m trying to run a message board here |
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Post by pinja on Nov 7, 2022 9:43:33 GMT -5
"All we had to do was follow the damn Scrum plan, CM!!" <Ace Steel> NUMBER KENNY, NUMBER KENNY LARGE WITH EXTRA DIP... Punk as OG Loc with the burger hat may return anytime. |
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Nov 7, 2022 10:37:15 GMT -5
This. I've dealt with interpersonal conflict situations at work where the he-said she-said was so bad that one of the parties straight up refused to be alone in a room with the other party without a third witness, precisely as a guard against unwarranted yet unproveable accusations. It's the same reason in healthcare that neutral chaperones are a thing when examining patients in certain contexts or sensitive situations. It's been said in this thread numerous times, but man, in addition to shining a spotlight on all the intractable Punk stans out there, it's also doing a damn good job of showing off who's never actually had to deal with a professional workplace. To be fair, for the average wrestler, beyond retail, wrestling is the only major industry that they worked for and it isn't exactly working as an accountant or IT or salesperson for a major company with a dedicated Human Resource. In fact, a lot of problems with the wrestling industry in general is that most did not learn proper workplace and professional etiquette. The average owner of a Fortune company would not put up with what happened in the media scrum or even let it happen in the first place. Hell, in most companies, posting controversial things on social media is a fireable offense.  |
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Post by bearned on Nov 7, 2022 10:54:25 GMT -5
It plays into their hands to get into a physical confrontation in front of the company lawyer, because... reasons, I guess, I don't know what the f*** the possible justification is for this one. Being charitable. They knew Punk would cause a fight... somehow and wanted a neutral witness for that was part of a chess game to get rid of him. Why even then, it's still their fault rather than Punk's for him causing all this instead of, I dunno, talking to them. I got nothing. I don’t back Punk on any of this (because it’s clear he’s been an idiot) but I can’t help but think the smartest thing the Elite could have done was not even attempt to talk to a clearly deranged man, high on adrenaline and muffins. Probably would have been better for everyone to let him cool off a bit. |
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Post by Lupin the Third on Nov 7, 2022 10:59:10 GMT -5
Them bringin in the lawyer was a dead giveaway they knew there would be verbal and physical implications. Actually they were going for it and they counted on it which makes their decision to gang up on Punk even worse from EVP standpoint. They certainly didn't go in to discuss Cabana comments with Punk but to discuss Punk putting them into his mouth. It was a immature showdown. I think we reached a point of mental gymnastics worth of winning Olympic gold WITH A BROKEN FREAKIN' NECK!!!! |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Nov 7, 2022 11:10:27 GMT -5
Being charitable. They knew Punk would cause a fight... somehow and wanted a neutral witness for that was part of a chess game to get rid of him. Why even then, it's still their fault rather than Punk's for him causing all this instead of, I dunno, talking to them. I got nothing. I don’t back Punk on any of this (because it’s clear he’s been an idiot) but I can’t help but think the smartest thing the Elite could have done was not even attempt to talk to a clearly deranged man, high on adrenaline and muffins. Probably would have been better for everyone to let him cool off a bit. Possibly, but he'd just gotten off of ripping into multiple coworkers including executives. After doing similarly and getting off scot free. In 20/20 hindsight, yeah time would have been good, but in the moment you can see why they'd want to talk to the guy who literally told them to do just that. He was angry, but you wouldn't expect him to start a fight, heated words sure but that's it, bringing the head of legal so everything that goes on is 100% above board, we can't get any he said/she said... ironically. |
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Post by Zombie Mod on Nov 7, 2022 11:14:49 GMT -5
This. I've dealt with interpersonal conflict situations at work where the he-said she-said was so bad that one of the parties straight up refused to be alone in a room with the other party without a third witness, precisely as a guard against unwarranted yet unproveable accusations. It's the same reason in healthcare that neutral chaperones are a thing when examining patients in certain contexts or sensitive situations. It's been said in this thread numerous times, but man, in addition to shining a spotlight on all the intractable Punk stans out there, it's also doing a damn good job of showing off who's never actually had to deal with a professional workplace. To be fair, for the average wrestler, beyond retail, wrestling is the only major industry that they worked for and it isn't exactly working as an accountant or IT or salesperson for a major company with a dedicated Human Resource. In fact, a lot of problems with the wrestling industry in general is that most did not learn proper workplace and professional etiquette. The average owner of a Fortune company would not put up with what happened in the media scrum or even let it happen in the first place. Hell, in most companies, posting controversial things on social media is a fireable offense. the company I used to work for had that, a couple of former colleagues got in serious trouble (both nearly got fired.) for posting stuff online (one for writing game reviews at the time criticising the driving in watchdogs 1, one for posting something in an official Microsoft group saying a rumour about them working on something for the xbox one was utter bullshit as it was that outlandish.) we were told repeatedly to not comment on anything negative on their social media pages, not to post anything that could affect relationships with Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft/3rd party publishers, it's part of why I've rarely commented on anything game related here for the last 15 years (and had to balance anything I did say in a way that wasn't super negative.) to avoid the possibility of losing my job at the time, which has been incredibly tough considering the rise of and stupidity of loot box microtransactions getting to the level they have in that time frame. and that was just for a job in the games retail industry as a sales assistant (the lowest rung of the corporate ladder.) and not a major part of the business that thousands/millions could see online. |
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Post by Dub H on Nov 7, 2022 11:22:45 GMT -5
To be fair, for the average wrestler, beyond retail, wrestling is the only major industry that they worked for and it isn't exactly working as an accountant or IT or salesperson for a major company with a dedicated Human Resource. In fact, a lot of problems with the wrestling industry in general is that most did not learn proper workplace and professional etiquette. The average owner of a Fortune company would not put up with what happened in the media scrum or even let it happen in the first place. Hell, in most companies, posting controversial things on social media is a fireable offense. the company I used to work for had that, a couple of former colleagues got in serious trouble (both nearly got fired.) for posting stuff online (one for writing game reviews at the time criticising the driving in watchdogs 1, one for posting something in an official Microsoft group saying a rumour about them working on something for the xbox one was utter bullshit as it was that outlandish.) we were told repeatedly to not comment on anything negative on their social media pages, not to post anything that could affect relationships with Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft/3rd party publishers, it's part of why I've rarely commented on anything game related here for the last 15 years (and had to balance anything I did say in a way that wasn't super negative.) to avoid the possibility of losing my job at the time, which has been incredibly tough considering the rise of and stupidity of loot box microtransactions getting to the level they have in that time frame. and that was just for a job in the games retail industry as a sales assistant (the lowest rung of the corporate ladder.) and not a major part of the business that thousands/millions could see online. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Its all positive |
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Post by Zombie Mod on Nov 7, 2022 11:35:14 GMT -5
the company I used to work for had that, a couple of former colleagues got in serious trouble (both nearly got fired.) for posting stuff online (one for writing game reviews at the time criticising the driving in watchdogs 1, one for posting something in an official Microsoft group saying a rumour about them working on something for the xbox one was utter bullshit as it was that outlandish.) we were told repeatedly to not comment on anything negative on their social media pages, not to post anything that could affect relationships with Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft/3rd party publishers, it's part of why I've rarely commented on anything game related here for the last 15 years (and had to balance anything I did say in a way that wasn't super negative.) to avoid the possibility of losing my job at the time, which has been incredibly tough considering the rise of and stupidity of loot box microtransactions getting to the level they have in that time frame. and that was just for a job in the games retail industry as a sales assistant (the lowest rung of the corporate ladder.) and not a major part of the business that thousands/millions could see online. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Its all positive I'm now free to say what I want about games (I'm currently waiting for wednesday for God of War: Ragnarok, loved the series up to now and I'm hoping it's a game of the year candidate.) so if I think a game is shit, I can say it's shit without having to find something good about it. |
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Post by Dub H on Nov 7, 2022 11:38:05 GMT -5
Zombie Mod SHOOTS on microsoft and online gaming{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Its all positive I'm now free to say what I want about games (I'm currently waiting for wednesday for God of War: Ragnarok, loved the series up to now and I'm hoping it's a game of the year candidate.) so if I think a game is shit, I can say it's shit without having to find something good about it. Oh ok I was afraid of actually gettinmg you into hot water but in this case: Zombie Mod SHOOTS on Microsoft "Its run but f***ing idiots EVPs that couldnt run a GameStop" "What did I ever do to deserve an empty headed idiot like Gary Bowser" |
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Post by The Captain on Nov 7, 2022 11:54:18 GMT -5
As a former Gamestop employee, shitting on Gamestop for how stupid they are is very cathartic.
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Post by markymark on Nov 7, 2022 11:54:40 GMT -5
TK tried to get me in the crowd back in the day and tried paying me in Jackson Jags merch. Like bro, I'm a wrestling fan AND a Bears fan. I'm already embarrassed of myself, why are you trying to embarrass me more? 😩
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Post by markymark on Nov 7, 2022 11:55:20 GMT -5
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Post by Dub H on Nov 7, 2022 12:08:45 GMT -5
The only reason he isnt out there throwing scores accross the field for the team is because it would put Basketball out of business to lose to a one man team. |
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Post by The Captain on Nov 7, 2022 12:20:24 GMT -5
He didn't even superkick a shirt into the crowd.
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Post by Dub H on Nov 7, 2022 12:30:59 GMT -5
He didn't even superkick a shirt into the crowd. It could have hit someone's dog. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2022 12:53:52 GMT -5
He didn't even superkick a shirt into the crowd. It could have hit someone's dog. If it is Brian the dog, or Poochie, then we may be ok. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 7, 2022 14:06:33 GMT -5
I'm always sure to have my legal rep with me when I go to kick someone's ass, it makes it easier to coordinate a plea deal later.
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