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Post by horsemen4ever on Sept 9, 2022 22:57:52 GMT -5
So I have a question, when she was alive, could she had just retired, why didn't she? What would be the ramifications if she did? Anyway all my best to my English friends. Sorry for your lose. There's no retirement for a British monarch. Edward VIII, her uncle, abdicated (gave up his position as king) and it caused the biggest scandal in British political history. The only way she was going to pass on the crown was death. Okay British law is something else. I guess it differs from the Fire Nation, Zuko was allowed to retire.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 10, 2022 0:53:39 GMT -5
There's no retirement for a British monarch. Edward VIII, her uncle, abdicated (gave up his position as king) and it caused the biggest scandal in British political history. The only way she was going to pass on the crown was death. Okay British law is something else. I guess it differs from the Fire Nation, Zuko was allowed to retire. He abdicated to marry a “commoner”, Wallis Simpson. Also, he loved the Nazis. So, there’s a little more context to the scandal than scandal for the sake of him abdicating.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Sept 10, 2022 6:26:11 GMT -5
Okay British law is something else. I guess it differs from the Fire Nation, Zuko was allowed to retire. He abdicated to marry a “commoner”, Wallis Simpson. Also, he loved the Nazis. So, there’s a little more context to the scandal than scandal for the sake of him abdicating. Not just a commoner, but a divorced, foreign commoner.
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Post by mo on Sept 10, 2022 6:48:05 GMT -5
Okay British law is something else. I guess it differs from the Fire Nation, Zuko was allowed to retire. He abdicated to marry a “commoner”, Wallis Simpson. Also, he loved the Nazis. So, there’s a little more context to the scandal than scandal for the sake of him abdicating. Yeah, it’s believed by some that Hitler was planning on putting him back on the throne should they successfully take Britain. It’s pretty nuts to think that this whole historical 70 year reign largely happened due to buddy being a massive f*** up.
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Post by mattperiolat on Sept 10, 2022 9:03:40 GMT -5
He abdicated to marry a “commoner”, Wallis Simpson. Also, he loved the Nazis. So, there’s a little more context to the scandal than scandal for the sake of him abdicating. Yeah, it’s believed by some that Hitler was planning on putting him back on the throne should they successfully take Britain. It’s pretty nuts to think that this whole historical 70 year reign largely happened due to buddy being a massive f*** up. At this point, it’s not so much belief. There was an active plan for George VI to be removed and Edward restored if/when England fell. He’d already done that with Vichy France and what were known as quzzling kings in other occupied territories and countries. It’s why there is, at best, a dim view of Edward and Wallis as both were known sympathizers.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 10, 2022 10:19:36 GMT -5
I was always concerned for years that the people wouldn't take to Charles as king, but I think in just three days he's won them over. His speech yesterday at the memorial was just beautiful. Even today's accession ceremony was moving, and most of it was just the signing of documents to make everything official. There's genuine warmth and affection.
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Post by animaniac on Sept 10, 2022 10:34:23 GMT -5
Has a date been announced for the coronation?
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 10, 2022 10:36:47 GMT -5
Has a date been announced for the coronation? No. But I would suggest next summer. A nice big happy event over the course of a week, with bank holidays, concerts, parades and so on, like the Jubilee. Would be great for tourism.
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Post by animaniac on Sept 10, 2022 10:37:48 GMT -5
Has a date been announced for the coronation? No. But I would suggest next summer. A nice big happy event over the course of a week, with bank holidays, concerts, parades and so on, like the Jubilee. Would be great for tourism. Didn't realize it took that much planning. I thought it was going to be this coming week lol.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Sept 10, 2022 10:39:04 GMT -5
Has a date been announced for the coronation? No and probably won’t be for a while yet. Liz was Queen for nearly a year and a half before her Coronation. I doubt it’ll take anywhere near that long this time though.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 10, 2022 10:49:18 GMT -5
I was always concerned for years that the people wouldn't take to Charles as king, but I think in just three days he's won them over. His speech yesterday at the memorial was just beautiful. Even today's accession ceremony was moving, and most of it was just the signing of documents to make everything official. There's genuine warmth and affection. Give it time. He's riding the wave of sympathy of his mother dying, and most fence-sitters are content to leave things be.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 10, 2022 11:48:35 GMT -5
Him throwing out an olive branch to Harry and Meghan was nice. Though it would've been awkward if he didn't mention them at all. Even the racist British media that absolutely hates Meghan would've jumped on him for that.
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Post by castletonsnob on Sept 10, 2022 11:56:18 GMT -5
Do you think the death of Queen Elizabeth II is going to be one of those events where everyone knows exactly where they were when they heard about it?
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Post by Cyno on Sept 10, 2022 12:03:42 GMT -5
Probably in the UK and maybe in other Commonwealth countries that still acknowledged her as their sovereign and haven't become republics. Everywhere else? Eh.
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 10, 2022 13:05:18 GMT -5
Probably in the UK and maybe in other Commonwealth countries that still acknowledged her as their sovereign and haven't become republics. Everywhere else? Eh. I'm in the states and can tell you. /Doctor's office.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 10, 2022 14:02:35 GMT -5
In case anyone was worried the Bees know >_>
(this is apparently a thing in bee keeping, letting the bees know of important life events... I'm not sure why exactly but it is.)
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Post by Lupin the Third on Sept 10, 2022 14:37:01 GMT -5
In case anyone was worried the Bees know >_> (this is apparently a thing in bee keeping, letting the bees know of important life events... I'm not sure why exactly but it is.) Maybe the bees like getting notified of the news. I'm guessing the WiFi is shit in the hive, as everyone's trying to use it.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Sept 10, 2022 18:22:11 GMT -5
The Australian PM has announced that Thursday the 22nd will be a national day of mourning in Australia. A one off public holiday.. Which I think is in the Constitution in the event of the death of a reigning month.
Bonus for Victorian’s as that state has their Grand Final Eve holiday the next day.. Four day weekend
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Post by Milkman Norm on Sept 10, 2022 18:45:57 GMT -5
Yeah, it’s believed by some that Hitler was planning on putting him back on the throne should they successfully take Britain. It’s pretty nuts to think that this whole historical 70 year reign largely happened due to buddy being a massive f*** up. At this point, it’s not so much belief. There was an active plan for George VI to be removed and Edward restored if/when England fell. He’d already done that with Vichy France and what were known as quzzling kings in other occupied territories and countries. It’s why there is, at best, a dim view of Edward and Wallis as both were known sympathizers. Edward pretty much believed that after the Battle of France the cabinet would either be divided or force Churchill to sue for peace at which point he would step in and then after some stuff be restored to the throne.
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Post by mattperiolat on Sept 11, 2022 4:41:46 GMT -5
At this point, it’s not so much belief. There was an active plan for George VI to be removed and Edward restored if/when England fell. He’d already done that with Vichy France and what were known as quzzling kings in other occupied territories and countries. It’s why there is, at best, a dim view of Edward and Wallis as both were known sympathizers. Edward pretty much believed that after the Battle of France the cabinet would either be divided or force Churchill to sue for peace at which point he would step in and then after some stuff be restored to the throne. Funny… the will of King George and his daughter Elizabeth have been underestimated for over 80 years. That is I suppose true for the English and Scots as well and for far longer. Interesting to reflect on as the cortège rolls through Scotland bearing the Queen toward Edinburgh. Also that it was 25 years and two days between the funeral for Diana and the death of the Queen. Time is funny.
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