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Post by fw91 on Sept 10, 2022 22:27:51 GMT -5
If CM Punk is out of the picture, I can't see them leaving AEW. In their eyes they punished just as bad as Punk despite trying to act like proper VP in dealing with the issue. If the suspension was just a formality until things are figured out, they wouldn't have been stripped of the title. So they may think they're being unjustly treated. lol with that thread being 400 plus pages I'm losing track of the facts.
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Sept 10, 2022 22:28:01 GMT -5
Cena is def in contention for GOAT. Like... denying it is just being petty at this point. I don't think I'm being petty, well I was with the snarky remark. Low hanging fruit and all. But not with how I see Cena. But I'll agree to disagree so we don't derail the thread. I'm really curious... how he isn't?
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Post by Mike Strike on Sept 10, 2022 22:51:58 GMT -5
In their eyes they punished just as bad as Punk despite trying to act like proper VP in dealing with the issue. If the suspension was just a formality until things are figured out, they wouldn't have been stripped of the title. So they may think they're being unjustly treated. lol with that thread being 400 plus pages I'm losing track of the facts. Some sources saying they had the heads of Talent Relations and Legal with them. That suggests they were trying to resolve the situation in a proper busoness manner like EVPs should.
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Post by Fade on Sept 10, 2022 22:53:09 GMT -5
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Sept 10, 2022 23:08:14 GMT -5
Man I hope the rumor that new titles are coming is true so that they can hold better looking belts if they show up
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Sept 10, 2022 23:13:37 GMT -5
Right Buck is just shocking looking nowadays.
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Post by Fade on Sept 10, 2022 23:51:35 GMT -5
Right Buck is just shocking looking nowadays. i think it’s the gambling addiction PA-KAW!
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Post by Mid-Carder on Sept 11, 2022 4:03:45 GMT -5
People said WWE would "ruin" or wouldn't "get" AJ Styles. He beat Cena on PPV twice and was the WWE World champion in under a year. I think Omega would do just fine. And the Bucks? If they can't wrestle a 10 minute TV match... they aren't as good as people think. Personally I think they'd thrive. You're right about AJ, but he's very much the exception to the rule
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Post by stoptheclocks on Sept 11, 2022 5:35:32 GMT -5
One of the interesting things about developments in AEW (Cody leaving and the Punk promo) is that it's revealed how little power the EVPs have. It's basically a ceremonial title.
I think how all of that shakes out will detirmine what The Elite do next. There is a lot of money in The Elite showing up in WWE like the NWO.
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Post by The Barber on Sept 11, 2022 7:06:42 GMT -5
"THE BEST BOUT MACHINE VERSUS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME" Isn't Hulk Hogan too old to wrestle?
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Post by An Dog On An Skateboard on Sept 11, 2022 7:16:53 GMT -5
I don't think I'm being petty, well I was with the snarky remark. Low hanging fruit and all. But not with how I see Cena. But I'll agree to disagree so we don't derail the thread. I'm really curious... how he isn't? I would say it depends what the metrics and qualifiers are. There's often a lot of recency/western bias in discussions about greats, and if you took into account everyone everywhere ever, he's not. But that's a discussion for another day/thread.
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Post by avenger on Sept 11, 2022 13:07:41 GMT -5
I'm really curious... how he isn't? I would say it depends what the metrics and qualifiers are. There's often a lot of recency/western bias in discussions about greats, and if you took into account everyone everywhere ever, he's not. But that's a discussion for another day/thread. The only metric for "best professional wrestler ever" is who brought in the most money. Flair is the best in-ring worker, Hogan took the WWF worldwide, Cena probably the best sports entertainer, Rock is the only guy to truly transcend the business while being an active performer, but there's only one answer to who drew the most, and that is Austin.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Sept 11, 2022 13:44:34 GMT -5
I just don't see it.
Despite recent events I think they're very proud of the company they helped launch, they know the people involved, and they've got a say in their careers they almost certainly wouldn't get anywhere else.
Maybe I'm wrong and the right offer would get them to jump ship, but I don't see them going anywhere.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Sept 11, 2022 13:45:22 GMT -5
CM Punk coming back to wrestling (LOL) and Cody going back to WWE show you can never say never, but I'd really be very, very surprised if Kenny showed up in WWE. If he leaves AEW I imagine he'd just go back to Japan.
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Post by Error on Sept 11, 2022 13:59:53 GMT -5
I think Omega is a lock as long as his body holds up. The Bucks, ehh, with all the talk about Matt's back and him wanting to retire in the next few years, I'm not too sure.
They were deep in talks with WWE before AEW formed and rumored to have sent out feelers before TK extended their contracts recently.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Sept 11, 2022 14:10:39 GMT -5
Anything is possible especially with the recent event. But if it came down to a normal negotiation period, AEW offers a lighter schedule, access to working Japanese promotions, and more influence in things like video games and creative booking. WWE could offer more money but unlike someone like KO, I think TK would be willing to match offers for someone like Omega who has been so central to the promotion. WWE does offer a bigger stage and a chance to enhance your legacy but I think the other factors would outweigh. So I would say it's possible but I would still favor AEW.
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Post by The Warthog on Sept 11, 2022 14:20:05 GMT -5
I see him going back to NJPW with the Bucks before WWE. Like, WWE offers them a huge contract and NJPW counters with more creative freedom/better schedule.
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Post by An Dog On An Skateboard on Sept 11, 2022 15:14:02 GMT -5
I would say it depends what the metrics and qualifiers are. There's often a lot of recency/western bias in discussions about greats, and if you took into account everyone everywhere ever, he's not. But that's a discussion for another day/thread. The only metric for "best professional wrestler ever" is who brought in the most money. Flair is the best in-ring worker, Hogan took the WWF worldwide, Cena probably the best sports entertainer, Rock is the only guy to truly transcend the business while being an active performer, but there's only one answer to who drew the most, and that is Austin. Well, even that is a difficult thing to gauge. It's reckoned the biggest box office draw ever was Jim Londos, but he predates PPV and merchandising so obviously doesn't have those other metrics to measure by, and then you could argue that the lack of television and PPV is what made him such a box office draw, and then there's inflation too, and that's before you take into account Japan and Mexico and wherever else. It's nowhere near as cut and dry as people think, you're never, ever going to get an accurate and objective ranking because there's too many variables.
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Post by peaches1 on Sept 11, 2022 17:00:12 GMT -5
I think he'll be in WWE at some point. It seems like most of the big wrestlers who made their names outside of WWE at least give it a shot. And I don't think AJ Styles is an outlier of "big free agents who have done well" in WWE especially now. Rollins, Owens, Zayn, Balor, Riddle, and Gunther are all showcased. Lashley and Mcintyre were there before, flamed out, but have come back and been booked like world beaters. Rhodes was on the same track before getting hurt.
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Sept 11, 2022 17:15:45 GMT -5
I would say it depends what the metrics and qualifiers are. There's often a lot of recency/western bias in discussions about greats, and if you took into account everyone everywhere ever, he's not. But that's a discussion for another day/thread. The only metric for "best professional wrestler ever" is who brought in the most money. Flair is the best in-ring worker, Hogan took the WWF worldwide, Cena probably the best sports entertainer, Rock is the only guy to truly transcend the business while being an active performer, but there's only one answer to who drew the most, and that is Austin. Except he's not the biggest draw. He was a how draw, but for a very short time. Hogan drew bigger, for longer. And Cena sold more merch than everyone.
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