champchumpchange
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Post by champchumpchange on Sept 22, 2022 14:48:03 GMT -5
Couple of months in.
Good matches certainly, highly talent professional wrestler - but my impression of her from WWE has carried over to AEW, in that I find her to be one of the lamest, unauthentic dorks on TV. The whole wing presentation during All Out was so f***ing lame, it was like a kid showing you his favorite stick, like "okay now, move on, this ain't as cool as you think it is"
I'm curious on how others perceive "The Fallen Goddess" .... which, why exactly is she 'that' ? Because she wears contact lenses and cocks her head sideways 'menacingly' ?
Turn this into an appreciation thread if you must - I just .... I no like her.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 22, 2022 14:49:59 GMT -5
Well the poll is already a bit dated because her wings re gone, she has a glowing cow skull now, which, admittedly is a step up from the wings
She's cool, she's dorky but it's not in an off putting way. She looked very good in the Grand Slam four way and she needs more showings like that. Running her into the brick wall that is Jade did her no favors out the gate.
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Post by chrom on Sept 22, 2022 14:58:49 GMT -5
Just another body on the roster
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 22, 2022 14:59:01 GMT -5
She's a nerd whose entire presentation is just "shit I find cool" and none of it comes together at all. Not in terms of importance or being all-powerful, but in terms of actual presentation-of compared to the fanfiction it came from, her character feels incredibly "Mary Sue" just for all the cool shit piled on that doesn't really mean much. You could tell me each outfit idea she gets is her LARPing one of her old tabletop characters and I'd believe it immediately.
Unironically, I'm a big fan.
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Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 22, 2022 15:01:17 GMT -5
Just another body on the roster Given how good she was in the four way match, she's a particularly damn good body to have on the roster.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2022 15:01:56 GMT -5
I like her AND she's a dork who's fun to dunk on.
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Fade
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Post by Fade on Sept 22, 2022 15:02:16 GMT -5
I enjoy her in-ring. I think she’s one of those talents whose own creative influx on her character needs to be reigned in and she needs to be told “This is your character” and given a direction in playing in towards.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Sept 22, 2022 15:04:42 GMT -5
She's a dork that I think has potential as a midcard contender but she's not somebody you build the division around. As of now, I feel confident saying her peak was the Asuka feud she lost in NXT and she never really regained her steam after that. Still feels like she's finding her way in terms of presentation in AEW, too.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Sept 22, 2022 15:11:08 GMT -5
Just another body on the roster Given how good she was in the four way match, she's a particularly damn good body to have on the roster. I've been kinda whatever about her since coming to AEW, but she really impressed me last night Presentation wise still sort of a hodge-podgy dork, but the only thing I really hate is her grade school neener-neener taunt.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Sept 22, 2022 15:26:15 GMT -5
Never been that big on her, always had the problem that she has a lot of the tools to be good but at the root of it all's a confused mess of a character with no rhyme or reason to anything, and I feel like if anything in AEW that problem's just gotten worse.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Sept 22, 2022 15:28:31 GMT -5
When she mocked the Jade flex with a troll dance I took that personally
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Post by clifford on Sept 22, 2022 15:56:30 GMT -5
She either needs to really lean into the dorky persona or drop it completely. She's a very good wrestler with a pretty unique moveset, but there's something that just seems lacking with her overall presentation
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 22, 2022 16:02:31 GMT -5
She's fine. Like, I do like her, but she's never been one of my top favorites.
Dearly needs to rename her finisher. I know she's referencing the one she got the move from, but maybe name it after him, then, and not use something that doesn't fit at all with her character, such as it is.
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Post by XIII on Sept 22, 2022 16:10:02 GMT -5
Major dork. Just a rambling mess of a character. She’s the Genesis of McGillicutty of lady wrestling characters.
She’s a pretty good wrestler, but not so good that you can overlook that.
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Post by Bo Rida on Sept 22, 2022 16:15:26 GMT -5
She's a dork but that should be fine, there's definitely a place for her.
Trouble is I think that place is probably as half of mismatched duo or part of a stable and they're both rare things to last long-term in American women's wrestling. The Statlander partnership could have been it but unfortunately that came to a premature end.
Shame Sammy went back to Jericho and dragged Tay and Anna with him. Jericho and Athena trying to compete wizard powers Vs wings to an amazed 2.0 and perplexed Garcia could have been great.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 22, 2022 16:15:49 GMT -5
She's a dork, but I like dorks.
The only thing I don't like about her is how inconsistent she is with her character. That's something that's been a thing with her since the indies. Otherwise, great look, solid in the ring, is easy to root for. Solid midcard to upper midcard type.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Sept 22, 2022 16:37:48 GMT -5
I was thinking this myself when I was watching the match
Like I think she’s a fantastic wrestler but even going back to when I first saw her in NXT I keep asking myself what she means by calling herself a war/fallen goddess and what exactly her character is
Damn good in the ring though
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2022 16:43:34 GMT -5
I've felt there's this disconnect between her entrance, look, and her character since NXT (when I first started watching her). She's clearly great between the ropes but her whole entrance and look indicates someone closer to Taker or Black than who she acts like in the ring. She's far better than someone like Abadon in the ring but Abadon feels like a more complete character because her aesthetic matches how she's presented.
Athena's great, but I'm often left wondering "why" when I see her look or entrance. It seems like it's cool for cool's sake which is fine but it's meant to be eye popping and there should be more reason to it than just to look cool. If there is more reason, we should be shown it on TV because either I'm missing it or it's not there right now. At the moment it seems like she does her entrance just to be cool, which makes her come across as more of a dork than she should.
Essentially, if her entrance is supposed to be cool and give an insight into this deeper mystical character then we should see more signs of that character than just look and entrance. If the look and entrance is just supposed to be a way to hype up Athena personally then it's sort of dorky, but could still easily work if they decide to go that route. My issue is it seems like we're sort of in a limbo as to what her character really is, not that either option is necessarily worse/better than the other.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2022 16:46:38 GMT -5
I remember a few years ago looking at MitB results and couldn’t believe she had been on the main roster for three years. Yet due to injures and lukewarm booking she did nothing of note.
I thought her tag team with Shotzi was great and they played off of each other well.
On her own she’s forgettable, outside of her finisher. Also she falls in the category of interesting entrance gear that besides looking cool doesn’t really add to her character.
She’s custom made for Impact. I’m not saying that as a bad thing.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Sept 22, 2022 16:54:19 GMT -5
She’s a good wrestler and I feel like people are getting way too hung up on her entrance gear to hold it against her? She’s talented and smooth in the ring, which isn’t a trait a ton of AEW women have.
And just above I saw someone say Abadon’s character fits more, which I can’t even understand comparatively so maybe I’m out of my depth. Abadon is a zombie in booty shorts who wrestled mostly just normal? It’s pretty much the exact thing people are saying is bad about Athena.
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