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Post by mistery on Nov 4, 2022 14:32:58 GMT -5
I don't see Bayley winning entirely because I can't see them letting her get a leg-up on Bianca on three shows in a row. I mean technically the babyfaces got the leg up on RAW last Monday because Alexa and Asuka took the gold from Damage Control and stood tall to close the show with Bianca on stage. There's also the argument to be made that Bianca's reign can't drag on any longer at this point. She has pretty much cleared out the division of credible threats assuming she goes over tomorrow. Plus there are plenty of faces to challenge Bayley still, assuming she wins the title.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 4, 2022 14:36:57 GMT -5
I feel like they're going to win at least one of their matches because then there's really no point in doing Wargames with the babyfaces having all the gold. You kind of have to have the faces on the defense at least somewhat to make having that match make at least some sense.
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Post by mistery on Nov 4, 2022 14:42:58 GMT -5
I feel like they're going to win at least one of their matches because then there's really no point in doing Wargames with the babyfaces having all the gold. You kind of have to have the faces on the defense at least somewhat to make having that match make at least some sense. Yeah. I feel like if they did War Games with all of the babyfaces holding gold, it wouldn't make sense, especially since the feud would be ice cold since at the end of the day, Damage CTRL has never actually had a true advantage over the babyfaces so far. It would also make perfect sense for the babyfaces to want to seek revenge if they lose all of the gold and got screwed at Crown Jewel. You could then have Bianca pin Bayley (at War Games) to set up a rematch for the Rumble or on a future RAW for the title. Because otherwise if Damage CTRL doesn't have all the gold when War Games rolls around, then they pretty much have to win War Games if they want to remain even remotely credible.
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Post by gl83 on Nov 4, 2022 20:03:16 GMT -5
I feel like they're going to win at least one of their matches because then there's really no point in doing Wargames with the babyfaces having all the gold. You kind of have to have the faces on the defense at least somewhat to make having that match make at least some sense. Yeah. I feel like if they did War Games with all of the babyfaces holding gold, it wouldn't make sense, especially since the feud would be ice cold since at the end of the day, Damage CTRL has never actually had a true advantage over the babyfaces so far. It would also make perfect sense for the babyfaces to want to seek revenge if they lose all of the gold and got screwed at Crown Jewel. You could then have Bianca pin Bayley (at War Games) to set up a rematch for the Rumble or on a future RAW for the title. Because otherwise if Damage CTRL doesn't have all the gold when War Games rolls around, then they pretty much have to win War Games if they want to remain even remotely credible. I can’t recall a single War Games where the Heels had zero momentum and were ice cold. -The first one had the UE running roughshod over NXT with them beating down and attacking Drew McIntyre, Sanity, Roderick Strong, forcing Strong into a tentative alliance with AOP. -The second had the UE holding the tag titles and beating down Ricochet & Pete Dunne, forcing them to join forces along with the War Raiders -The following year had the UE holding all the gold; meanwhile on the women side, Shayna was running roughshod over the women’s division with her year-long “reign of terror” -The following year you had Team Mcafee, who possessed the tag titles and were running roughshod over NXT(particularly the UE); meanwhile you had Team Candice taking out every Face who would align with Shotzi(Rhea, Io, Ember) -The year after that you had Toxic Attraction with all the women’s titles in NXT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2022 23:08:06 GMT -5
Is there any possibility that they won't extend Bayley vs. Bianca after War Games, please?
I'd be fine w/ Bayley defeating Bianca at Saudi Arabia and DMG CTRL winning the War Games.
(As long as Alexa x Asuka keeps them belts and it's not "all the championships on the line", as I really really really want a Christmas with Alexa as champion, so she'll be actually featured this year. THAT'S fair, right? 🤐)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2022 23:51:14 GMT -5
If it's all the belts on the line, then in that situation, I truly hope that Super Bianca's Squad lays the SmackDown on DMG CTRL! I just can't root against Alexa. 🤷♀️
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Post by gl83 on Nov 5, 2022 0:00:42 GMT -5
If it's all the belts on the line, then in that situation, I truly hope that Super Bianca's Squad lays the SmackDown on DMG CTRL! I just can't root against Alexa. 🤷♀️ I don't get where people get the all belts on the line stipulation from since War Games is usually 4v4 and there's only 3 belts.
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Post by gl83 on Nov 5, 2022 0:07:25 GMT -5
It's a Saudi show, and they usually do something special to pop the Saudi fans, such as doing a title change; crowning a tournament winner(King of the Ring/Queen's Crown/Best in the World) or awarding a prize or some sort of accolade during these events(Greatest Royal Rumble/Largest Battle Royal/World Cup for the "Greatest Tag Team", etc.).
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 5, 2022 4:53:38 GMT -5
At this juncture I probably wouldn't even put the entirety of Damage CTRL in WarGames. One, I don't really see unless someone turns to help Bayley at Crown Jewel who the fourth would be without it just being someone utterly random - I struggle to even name another heel woman on Raw besides Rhea, much less one who would really organically fit in, and two, there isn't really intrigue there at all because Damage CTRL has already fought and been beaten by everybody.
I'd probably just do something like Bayley, Ronda, Shayna and Rhea vs. Bianca, Liv, Raquel, and whoever the OC's counter to Rhea ends up being. Would suck not including Asuka and IYO but it'd make for much more credible sides with a lot more novelty.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 5, 2022 5:07:54 GMT -5
At this juncture I probably wouldn't even put the entirety of Damage CTRL in WarGames. One, I don't really see unless someone turns to help Bayley at Crown Jewel who the fourth would be without it just being someone utterly random - I struggle to even name another heel woman on Raw besides Rhea, much less one who would really organically fit in, and two, there isn't really intrigue there at all because Damage CTRL has already fought and been beaten by everybody. I'd probably just do something like Bayley, Ronda, Shayna and Rhea vs. Bianca, Liv, Raquel, and whoever the OC's counter to Rhea ends up being. Would suck not including Asuka and IYO but it'd make for much more credible sides with a lot more novelty. I really have no clue what they are going to do with the Wargames teams. It's funny in a way because they have tons of face combinations they could go with but on the heel side there's like literally no sensible options for a fourth women to team with the three Damage CTRL members. The majority of the other heels are all jobbers and the few that do have credibility like Ronda and Rhea it would feel kind of forced to have them in there as neither even has a rival right now in the womnen's division. Ronda is done with Liv and is doing open challenges and Rhea now pretty much exclusively fights and feuds with men.
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Post by mistery on Nov 5, 2022 7:49:15 GMT -5
At this juncture I probably wouldn't even put the entirety of Damage CTRL in WarGames. One, I don't really see unless someone turns to help Bayley at Crown Jewel who the fourth would be without it just being someone utterly random - I struggle to even name another heel woman on Raw besides Rhea, much less one who would really organically fit in, and two, there isn't really intrigue there at all because Damage CTRL has already fought and been beaten by everybody. I'd probably just do something like Bayley, Ronda, Shayna and Rhea vs. Bianca, Liv, Raquel, and whoever the OC's counter to Rhea ends up being. Would suck not including Asuka and IYO but it'd make for much more credible sides with a lot more novelty. I really have no clue what they are going to do with the Wargames teams. It's funny in a way because they have tons of face combinations they could go with but on the heel side there's like literally no sensible options for a fourth women to team with the three Damage CTRL members. The majority of the other heels are all jobbers and the few that do have credibility like Ronda and Rhea it would feel kind of forced to have them in there as neither even has a rival right now in the womnen's division. Ronda is done with Liv and is doing open challenges and Rhea now pretty much exclusively fights and feuds with men. I'm honestly at the point where I think Triple H put absolutely no thought into Damage CTRL or the Women's Division in general outside of "make Bianca and Ronda look strong, consequences be damned" and we are seeing it unfold. And that's just awful booking. Because now Triple H has done severe damage to Bayley's credibility over the past few months, and Iyo and Dakota have borderline negative levels of credibility. All just to make Bianca look strong. This is why I feel like he owes Bayley, Iyo, and Dakota an apology after all of this is over with, because I doubt Bayley proposed this faction with the idea that Bianca would just be running over them almost the entire time. And in the case of Iyo and Dakota, it makes me wonder if they regret signing new deals with the company if they knew this was going to be their ceiling for probably the next year or so.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2022 13:04:07 GMT -5
*reads the results*
OH, IT'S ON NOW! YOU WILL [CENSORED] FEAR ALEXA'S WRATH, BITCH CTRL!
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Post by CMWaters on Nov 5, 2022 13:10:18 GMT -5
*reads the results*
OH, IT'S ON NOW! YOU WILL [CENSORED] FEAR ALEXA'S WRATH, BITCH CTRL! Before or after dealing with Nikki because of what she did?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2022 13:31:13 GMT -5
*reads the results*
OH, IT'S ON NOW! YOU WILL [CENSORED] FEAR ALEXA'S WRATH, BITCH CTRL! Before or after dealing with Nikki because of what she did? 🤷♀️ Nikki will probably be just another body at War Games. She's a l-o-s-e-r... OP Alexa will definitely give her hell of a beating at RAW. 😎👆 Along with Super Bianca x The Squad 💪
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 5, 2022 13:50:32 GMT -5
Yeah, this Bianca reign is totally going to limp all the way to Mania. Zero point in even bothering with WarGames.
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Post by theironyuppie on Nov 5, 2022 14:03:01 GMT -5
Yeah, this Bianca reign is totally going to limp all the way to Mania. Zero point in even bothering with WarGames. Most likely, yes. Maybe beating Bayley another four times or so. On the bright side, Kota/Iyo are tag champs again and it was a strong performance.
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Post by Hypnosis on Nov 5, 2022 14:04:19 GMT -5
Yeah, this Bianca reign is totally going to limp all the way to Mania. Zero point in even bothering with WarGames. Bayley is the weak link of Damage CTRL.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Nov 5, 2022 14:08:43 GMT -5
Yeah, this Bianca reign is totally going to limp all the way to Mania. Zero point in even bothering with WarGames. Bayley is the weak link of Damage CTRL. She couldn't even manage a f***ing Target.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Nov 5, 2022 14:13:28 GMT -5
Bayley is the weak link of Damage CTRL. She couldn't even manage a f***ing Target. Too far, man
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Post by asuka007 on Nov 5, 2022 14:13:41 GMT -5
Well Iyo and Dakota have the belts back. But they needed Nikki to save them.
Then bizarrely none of them came out later. And Bayley just lost again.
Can this feud be done now please?
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