Futureraven: Beelzebruv
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 27, 2022 11:01:50 GMT -5
Hugh Jackman admitted he had no interest too as I recall, but had a great moment to pop the crowd. Hugh wanted to be there. He also really wanted to meet the Brooklyn Brawler
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 27, 2022 11:58:52 GMT -5
Similar going with the guest host thing is... Bob Barker. Somehow I doubt he gave a shit about Wrestling but he managed to make it look like he did in one of the better reviewed Guest Host spots. It tells you one thing about Bob Barker and one thing about Piven and Jeong, and it is that only one of the three is a f***ing professional Professionalism is absolutely the big issue there. It was pretty clear that this was just a media tour spot for Piven and Jeong, and like a lot of actors see the promotional cycle as kind of the worst part, but you don't go onto big late night talk shows and express utter disdain for being there. It's a really bad look and you can do damage to your career if you repeatedly don't try, on top of not doing a good job of advertising your thing, which is why the whole thing was put together. But wrestling isn't treated that same way and your publicist isn't going to give a crap if you half-ass five minutes in front of a pro wrestling crowd. Nobody gives a shit about how much you care about wrestling, so a lot of people were brought in to promote something and dragged their feet through knowing they weren't going to catch any heat for half-assing a wrestling appearance.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 27, 2022 13:46:32 GMT -5
If only the Guest Host Era was able to get Paul Rudd and Conan O'Brien to do a show together. Then we could've gotten the Mac and Me clip.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 27, 2022 21:07:06 GMT -5
It tells you one thing about Bob Barker and one thing about Piven and Jeong, and it is that only one of the three is a f***ing professional Professionalism is absolutely the big issue there. It was pretty clear that this was just a media tour spot for Piven and Jeong, and like a lot of actors see the promotional cycle as kind of the worst part, but you don't go onto big late night talk shows and express utter disdain for being there. It's a really bad look and you can do damage to your career if you repeatedly don't try, on top of not doing a good job of advertising your thing, which is why the whole thing was put together. But wrestling isn't treated that same way and your publicist isn't going to give a crap if you half-ass five minutes in front of a pro wrestling crowd. Nobody gives a shit about how much you care about wrestling, so a lot of people were brought in to promote something and dragged their feet through knowing they weren't going to catch any heat for half-assing a wrestling appearance. also Bob's claim to fame is a gameshow host... feigning interest is one of his key skills
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Sept 28, 2022 13:25:21 GMT -5
Yeah, the Guest Hosts of Raw... were almost all there to hype whatever project they were doing the circuit on and rarely was it... I'm here because I like Wrestling. It was a horrible side effect of being a network mandate rather than something flowing organically, and I imagine they played a big part in it, too. Jeremy Piven showed up on Jimmy Fallon to advertise his movie, and I think that being on NBC isn't a coincidence, given how late night talk shows are by and large just media circuit ad spots. I have to think they also pitched having him and Jeong make an appearance on Raw to his agent and it happened. Either way, a lot of people were pulled in for no reason other than "they're famous" and it was a shitshow. But Action Bronson, old ECW fan who ended up being friends with Hook? He's gonna give some kind of a shit about being there. Buffalo rapper who comes out just to rep a hometown guy in a title match? Even if he doesn't give a shit and he's getting paid, he's not stinking the joint up. Those are the angles to play. Someone doesn't even really need to like wrestling if you understand how to utilize them in a way where they don't have to show that. Westside Gunn (the rapper from Buffalo) is legit ringside at like half of AEW and WWE shows, his debut album was a Benoit concept album. His Garcia entrance wasn't great because that's not a good live song, but the dude is a massive wrestling fan
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 28, 2022 13:27:58 GMT -5
It was a horrible side effect of being a network mandate rather than something flowing organically, and I imagine they played a big part in it, too. Jeremy Piven showed up on Jimmy Fallon to advertise his movie, and I think that being on NBC isn't a coincidence, given how late night talk shows are by and large just media circuit ad spots. I have to think they also pitched having him and Jeong make an appearance on Raw to his agent and it happened. Either way, a lot of people were pulled in for no reason other than "they're famous" and it was a shitshow. But Action Bronson, old ECW fan who ended up being friends with Hook? He's gonna give some kind of a shit about being there. Buffalo rapper who comes out just to rep a hometown guy in a title match? Even if he doesn't give a shit and he's getting paid, he's not stinking the joint up. Those are the angles to play. Someone doesn't even really need to like wrestling if you understand how to utilize them in a way where they don't have to show that. Westside Gunn (the rapper from Buffalo) is legit ringside at like half of AEW and WWE shows, his debut album was a Benoit concept album. His Garcia entrance wasn't great because that's not a good live song, but the dude is a massive wrestling fan Good to know. I was using him as an example more than I was saying he doesn't give a shit and just wanted a paycheck, but people who give a shit are always welcome no matter what corner of entertainment they come from.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Sept 29, 2022 4:19:30 GMT -5
I would give my opinion on this but a group of rednecks did it all the way back in the late 90's.
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