UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 4, 2024 19:31:16 GMT -5
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Aug 4, 2024 19:43:33 GMT -5
I think a lot of folks are getting a look at the difference between reporting and journalism in all of this; one involves getting information direct from a source to get a scoop, but the other focuses on doing some digging/investigatory work (which *does* still involve talking to sources, granted) for larger stories. It's also worth adding, and this is true for lots of things in today's world, not just wrestling specifically, that so much reporting is gussied up promotion, basically a second-hand press release reworded from the original. Merely reporting PR from WWE or AEW or whatever does not a journalist one make. Meltzer is probably the closest thing wrestling news has to Woodward and Bernstein. The sad fact of the matter, however, is Meltzer is no Woodward and Bernstein. And lots of other wrestling news figures work within the wake of Meltzer's influence. If Meltzer actually were up to the level of a Woodward and Bernstein, maybe more "wrestling news" would actually be "wrestling journalism."
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 4, 2024 20:41:07 GMT -5
I think a lot of folks are getting a look at the difference between reporting and journalism in all of this; one involves getting information direct from a source to get a scoop, but the other focuses on doing some digging/investigatory work (which *does* still involve talking to sources, granted) for larger stories. It's also worth adding, and this is true for lots of things in today's world, not just wrestling specifically, that so much reporting is gussied up promotion, basically a second-hand press release reworded from the original. Merely reporting PR from WWE or AEW or whatever does not a journalist one make. Meltzer is probably the closest thing wrestling news has to Woodward and Bernstein. The sad fact of the matter, however, is Meltzer is no Woodward and Bernstein. And lots of other wrestling news figures work within the wake of Meltzer's influence. If Meltzer actually were up to the level of a Woodward and Bernstein, maybe more "wrestling news" would actually be "wrestling journalism." That feels like a massive stretch. Meltzer is usually pretty good at what he does, but what he does isn't exposing the corrupt underbelly and rallying people to stand against it. Reporters say "this happened". Journalists change history.
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Post by salz4life on Aug 4, 2024 22:44:32 GMT -5
Sean Ross Sapp is doing pseudo-tough-guy “you wouldn’t say this to my face” posturing in response to people asking why he didn’t ask about Logan Paul so that’s another wrestling “journalist” not worth a shit. I’m absolutely shocked that Sapp would do something like this… SHOCKED!!!
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Aug 5, 2024 13:06:45 GMT -5
SRS used to be a "make guess, if I'm wrong, plans changed bro" tweeter. He BS'd his way to legitmate journalism. Just remember where his roots in "wrestling journalism" came from.
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Post by ayumidah on Aug 5, 2024 13:51:41 GMT -5
Yeah as we already figured, nothing's going to happen because Peacock just released a schedule of stuff getting uploaded and Friday has a "Best of Logan Paul" special scheduled. Yippee.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Aug 5, 2024 13:55:26 GMT -5
Here's a response from Coffeezilla in response to the lawsuit.
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Post by salz4life on Aug 5, 2024 14:23:02 GMT -5
Yeah as we already figured, nothing's going to happen because Peacock just released a schedule of stuff getting uploaded and Friday has a "Best of Logan Paul" special scheduled. Yippee. That just seems like a F You to everyone upset. Not a good look.
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Post by Goldash #BLM on Aug 5, 2024 14:33:41 GMT -5
Yeah as we already figured, nothing's going to happen because Peacock just released a schedule of stuff getting uploaded and Friday has a "Best of Logan Paul" special scheduled. Yippee. That just seems like a F You to everyone upset. Not a good look. And from Peacock too, who is the exclusive Olympic broadcaster...just seems really weird to me. I know this was likely something produced/ordered from WWE itself, and likely not NBC/Peacock's own doing, but, like...timing, optics, context, reading the room, everything's off.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 5, 2024 14:38:01 GMT -5
I'm not saying it would have been a guarantee but considering how much stick HHH got in the media from his "Ignore the bad stuff and let's talk about the good stuff" comment, I'd say if someone did ask about Logan Paul and HHH's response was anything but "We have discussed it internally and the issue's been resolved", it probably would have dropped from the schedule.
EDIT: Which is probably why Thurston wasn't called on to ask a question and John Pollock wasn't let in.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Aug 5, 2024 15:07:43 GMT -5
SRS used to be a "make guess, if I'm wrong, plans changed bro" tweeter. He BS'd his way to legitmate journalism. Just remember where his roots in "wrestling journalism" came from. You wouldn't say that to his face!
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Aug 5, 2024 15:36:03 GMT -5
SRS used to be a "make guess, if I'm wrong, plans changed bro" tweeter. He BS'd his way to legitmate journalism. Just remember where his roots in "wrestling journalism" came from. You wouldn't say that to his face! SRS is Alex Riley?
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on Aug 5, 2024 16:49:17 GMT -5
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UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 5, 2024 17:20:53 GMT -5
now putting a kayfabe lawsuit out against LA Knight so the search engine results will show the wrestling storyline instead of the actual scamming going on. i'm good lol, i tap.
EDIT: saw the same idea mentioned in a few other places now but yeah, feel bad for the people being scammed but Prime brings in too much money for anything to ever happen
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Post by Dub H on Aug 5, 2024 19:11:27 GMT -5
Here's a response from Coffeezilla in response to the lawsuit. It seems on top of everything, the lawsuit was to silence Coffezilla of exposion another fraudulent company of his,now in Canada.
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Post by Chiral on Aug 5, 2024 20:38:02 GMT -5
Now WWE brought back Odyssey Jones so I don't think they give a molecule of a shit about even trying to seem even a teensy tiny little bit inclusive of trans folks
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Post by darbus alan on Aug 5, 2024 20:58:23 GMT -5
So I guess Nyla probably won't have to worry about signing there anytime soon.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 5, 2024 21:03:26 GMT -5
Choosing now to suddenly remember Odyssey Jones exists feels like a deliberate f***-you to people who expect this company to do better.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 5, 2024 21:11:21 GMT -5
It's actually incredible how HHH had it all in his hands to give so much goodwill to an alienated as f*** fanbase and has found ever conceivable way to f*** it up and just tell everyone "Oh I wouldn't say freed, more like under new management!"
Dude's never getting positive comments from me for the foreseeable future for condoning and signing Transphobes and Transphobia. He frankly shouldn't from anyone, he's a dick, he's always been a dick.
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Post by thechase on Aug 6, 2024 8:54:26 GMT -5
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