Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 4, 2023 22:24:09 GMT -5
I remember seeing articles from her saying WWE was the best place for wrestling and such, it seemed like not so subtle digs and everyone here thought so too I'm sure she'd shut her trap if AEW signed her, but it doesn't seem like it's in their plans and they aren't biting if Miro's trying to use that as collateral I know she’s talked up WWE as compared to AEW, I was talking about your comment that she’s been saying she can go back to WWE anytime she wants and then you laughed at it. I don’t believe she’s said that. I guess it's been the air she's given off in those interviews, if she goes back it's whatever but HHH has been re-hiring a lot of people and even Nia came back for one event so idk what her stock is without Rusev in their eyes.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 5, 2023 9:20:02 GMT -5
I remember seeing articles from her saying WWE was the best place for wrestling and such, it seemed like not so subtle digs and everyone here thought so too I'm sure she'd shut her trap if AEW signed her, but it doesn't seem like it's in their plans and they aren't biting if Miro's trying to use that as collateral I know she’s talked up WWE as compared to AEW, I was talking about your comment that she’s been saying she can go back to WWE anytime she wants and then you laughed at it. I don’t believe she’s said that. She's absolutely done a couple podcast interviews where, while she may not have outwardly bashed AEW, the tone and how she talked about them would have caused an issue for me if I was involved with AEW and if I were Miro I would absolutely have a problem with it... one of which being done while she was very open about being at the Royal Rumble (and she was backstage) And hey, while I love AEW and enjoy it much more than WWE, it's still a very clear number 2 promotion with some issues both production wise and business wise that are worth critiquing. Some have been adjust but there's still room for improvement, and that's okay. So it's not really an issue of saying WWE is better, it's more how it's being said and the fact that your husband is in a long term contract and has in different avenues made it very known he wants her signed
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ghost
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Post by ghost on Mar 5, 2023 9:50:03 GMT -5
Miro agreeing to job to Sammy f’n Guevara but not wanting to work with Hobbs is mind boggling to me.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 5, 2023 10:38:09 GMT -5
Miro agreeing to job to Sammy f’n Guevara but not wanting to work with Hobbs is mind boggling to me. In fairness, at the time Sammy was very popular and insanely hot and Miro was injured. A mixture of the MOTY feud and his own stupidity makes it easy to forget where Sammy was for much of 2021
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pinja
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Post by pinja on Mar 5, 2023 11:07:07 GMT -5
I could understand the reasoning for him to not job to Hobbs opposed to Guevara. Miro and Hobbs have a similar appeal, so him being told to lose a match or a feud could be seen by him as downhill trajectory. Hobbs being the brutish powerhouse AEW wants to push, Miro being in kind of a Samoa Joe role. Him losing to Guevara wouldn't take away from the powerhouse pecking order. But then again, at this point Hobbs does have more upside.
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 5, 2023 12:13:54 GMT -5
I know she’s talked up WWE as compared to AEW, I was talking about your comment that she’s been saying she can go back to WWE anytime she wants and then you laughed at it. I don’t believe she’s said that. She's absolutely done a couple podcast interviews where, while she may not have outwardly bashed AEW, the tone and how she talked about them would have caused an issue for me if I was involved with AEW and if I were Miro I would absolutely have a problem with it... one of which being done while she was very open about being at the Royal Rumble (and she was backstage) And hey, while I love AEW and enjoy it much more than WWE, it's still a very clear number 2 promotion with some issues both production wise and business wise that are worth critiquing. Some have been adjust but there's still room for improvement, and that's okay. So it's not really an issue of saying WWE is better, it's more how it's being said and the fact that your husband is in a long term contract and has in different avenues made it very known he wants her signed Oh yeah she’s definitely semi-bashed AEW and propped up WWE, I just don’t remember seeing her ever say that she could go back to WWE whenever she wanted. I’ve actually seen her say that she would work for WWE or AEW if they offered her anything.
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lucas_lee
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Post by lucas_lee on Mar 5, 2023 13:03:11 GMT -5
I would say know your worth if AEW isn't giving you satisfactory storylines then you don't have to say yes. We have to be consistent in supporting the talent if I'm not a fan of Miros AEW run as a whole.
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Post by mrtuesday on Mar 5, 2023 13:51:03 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't think she was especially useful once she stopped being Ludmilla Drago. It's like Lana suddenly lost her mic skills overnight once she dropped the accent. Which is really weird considering she's a trained actress. She's been in TV shows and movies. How do you dip that badly?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 5, 2023 14:33:45 GMT -5
I would say know your worth if AEW isn't giving you satisfactory storylines then you don't have to say yes. We have to be consistent in supporting the talent if I'm not a fan of Miros AEW run as a whole. Miro is within his right to turn down angles, just as AEW is within their right that if he doesn't like what's presented to him not to use him. Again the only thing that's been sort of confirmed is that an angle with Hobbs was pitched and turned down. I just go back to something William Regal said on his podcast last year as a piece of advice to wrestlers. Don't assume that something else will always come around when you are pitched a role. That's not place blame on Miro or on AEW as again we do not know what all has been pitched. Just stating a fact.
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Post by markymark on Mar 24, 2023 6:55:29 GMT -5
Imagine refusing to put over Hangman out of all people....
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Post by CeilingFan on Mar 24, 2023 7:10:20 GMT -5
Tony Khan needs to do a housecleaning after Double Or Nothing. Get rid of Andrade, Miro, and a few others.
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Post by raymondo316 on Mar 24, 2023 8:22:05 GMT -5
I dont understand what Miro's problem is, its not like they are asking him to lose to Serpentico.
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Kalmia
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 24, 2023 8:30:40 GMT -5
I have sympathy and support for any wrestler that feels they aren't getting used properly. But you can't be all "that doesn't work for me, brother" on the ideas presented to you and still expect more ideas to be presented to you. Especially when the company doesn't particularly need you right now.
I hope AEW and Miro can find something that makes both sides happy. If not, maybe they should come to an agreement and part ways.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 24, 2023 8:30:42 GMT -5
Imagine refusing to put over Hangman out of all people....
So he's been rumored to have turned feuds down with Hobbs and Hangman. I wouldn't be shocked if Tony even pitched ROH
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champchumpchange
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Post by champchumpchange on Mar 24, 2023 8:31:02 GMT -5
I dont understand what Miro's problem is, its not like they are asking him to lose to Serpentico. I don't think he wants to lose, period.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 24, 2023 8:35:22 GMT -5
I have sympathy and support for any wrestler that feels they aren't getting used properly. But you can't be all "that doesn't work for me, brother" on the ideas presented to you and still expect more ideas to be presented to you. Especially when the company doesn't particularly need you right now. I hope AEW and Miro can find something that makes both sides happy. If not, maybe they should come to an agreement and part ways. I've brought up the examples from a couple podcasts. William Regal said in one of his first podcasts that if a wrestler is offered an angle they should take it even if they don't like it because you have no idea how long it will be before you get another chance. Lance Storm also said on WOL that if an angle was turned down they'd pitch the same angle to a developmental talent as they'd rather try that than come up with something new. It's apples and oranges but... yeah I get wanting to be doing something but if you don't like the ideas being given, you don't have a leg to stand on. I'd be curious if he's coming up with his own ideas too as multiple wrestlers have said that you get more attention if you pitch things.
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mrbananagrabber
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Mar 24, 2023 8:38:07 GMT -5
Damn I started this thread back in September after it had been “three months” since he was last on the show. Seven months later and still no show.
It’d be different if they just weren’t using him, but if he’s just flat out turning down angles and matches, and against guys like Hobbs, then he A) either thinks he’s on a different level than he actually is B) he wants to get released. C) has worked out the cheat code of sitting at home, refusing to do his job and getting paid to do nothing ‘cos Tony ain’t Vince.
Whatever it is..pretty frustrating.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 24, 2023 8:48:11 GMT -5
I have sympathy and support for any wrestler that feels they aren't getting used properly. But you can't be all "that doesn't work for me, brother" on the ideas presented to you and still expect more ideas to be presented to you. Especially when the company doesn't particularly need you right now. I hope AEW and Miro can find something that makes both sides happy. If not, maybe they should come to an agreement and part ways. Yeah, like, I obviously can't say I know his psyche but he must have some kind of awareness that there are people who have been putting in the work and the time and getting rewarded for it and it basically narrows down the spaces people have to slide in and work programs. And hey, I'm not saying everything he's pitched is a great idea but also if he's not going to do it, there's a bunch of guys who will. Like, if someone who has a reputation like Rush can put the work in, there's zero excuse for Miro.
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kidkamikaze10
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Mar 24, 2023 8:56:39 GMT -5
Honestly, I’m fine with Miro going wherever he feels he’ll do great in. WWE, IMPACT, NWA… Where ever he wants.
I just want him gone. Same with Punk, Andrade, anyone wasting salary space. There are some fresh talent that could be great in AEW if given an opportunity especially on the women’s side. Tony needs to make that space by cleaning house.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Mar 24, 2023 9:03:24 GMT -5
Someone on Reddit made a comparison to Miro and Brodie Lee’s situation with WWE. Saying why are people mad at Miro but not Lee for doing the same thing.
But the huge difference is, WWE never booked Luke Harper all that well, almost never. His biggest pushes were as a second to Bray Wyatt. Other than some minor pushes as IC and Tag champ, WWE never presented Luke Harper as he should.
And really, other than the gamer gimmick not working, what has AEW really done to misuse Miro? Once the redeemer gimmick started he was DOMINANT! He booked as a big deal, booked as a monster that was only pinned TWICE. Other than being booked to be a dominant World Champion, what else could AEW have done to make Miro a big deal. I’m not saying the ideas presented to him are great, but it’s very clear to me he thinks he’s bigger than he really is.
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