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Post by Killah Ray on Nov 21, 2022 15:01:53 GMT -5
I don’t know, holding up a top 3 tag team in the world into doing much of nothing would be met with a hashtag demanding they’d be freed anywhere else. They're literally holding three different promotions' tag belts right now and all of them are thanks to their boss. This isn't exactly "ha ha they're shaving each others' backs, what homos" comedy jobber shit. They’re members of the AEW roster, I’m sure being ROH champs mean f*** all to them. AAA never takes titles seriously and the IWGP titles are the only legit titles they’re holding. I still think they got a raw deal when the Bucks were tag champs and they (especially Dax) just aren’t over it.
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 21, 2022 15:06:24 GMT -5
I don’t really see a problem with FTR being upset at their place in AEW right now. They were (are?) white hot as a babyface tag team and should be heavily featured weekly while they’re at that level. If you’re going to keep them away from the Acclaimed during their title run, then they should be feuding with a pair of top heels/a top heel faction instead, until they can get back in the title hunt.
Not sure what Colten Gunn of all people is on about, though.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 21, 2022 15:12:39 GMT -5
They're literally holding three different promotions' tag belts right now and all of them are thanks to their boss. This isn't exactly "ha ha they're shaving each others' backs, what homos" comedy jobber shit. They’re members of the AEW roster, I’m sure being ROH champs mean f*** all to them. AAA never takes titles seriously and the IWGP titles are the only legit titles they’re holding. I still think they got a raw deal when the Bucks were tag champs and they (especially Dax) just aren’t over it. Sure but there's a massive difference between "They're holding titles they don't particularly care about" and "They're doing nothing and there'd be a hashtag campaign about it anywhere else". They aren't being 'held up' here at all.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 21, 2022 15:17:18 GMT -5
They're literally holding three different promotions' tag belts right now and all of them are thanks to their boss. This isn't exactly "ha ha they're shaving each others' backs, what homos" comedy jobber shit. They’re members of the AEW roster, I’m sure being ROH champs mean f*** all to them. AAA never takes titles seriously and the IWGP titles are the only legit titles they’re holding. I still think they got a raw deal when the Bucks were tag champs and they (especially Dax) just aren’t over it. If those titles don't mean anything to them, they are disrespecting those promotions by holding them and should drop them.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 21, 2022 15:23:03 GMT -5
I am sure the belts they do mean something to them, given they are... I don't want to call them "belt marks", exactly, but they take their credentials pretty seriously and love padding their resumes.
I just do not see their complaint. Oh no, they're going to perform at Wrestle Kingdom, woe is f***ing me, they have it so bad.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 21, 2022 15:25:15 GMT -5
I am sure the belts they do have mean something to them, given they are... I don't want to call them "belt marks", exactly, but they take their credentials pretty seriously and love padding their resumes. I just do not see their complaint. Oh no, they're going to perform at Wrestle Kingdom, woe is f***ing me, they have it so bad. You think that they'd be excited about getting that extra Tokyo Dome Star from The Meltz.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 21, 2022 15:29:16 GMT -5
I am sure the belts they do have mean something to them, given they are... I don't want to call them "belt marks", exactly, but they take their credentials pretty seriously and love padding their resumes. I just do not see their complaint. Oh no, they're going to perform at Wrestle Kingdom, woe is f***ing me, they have it so bad. Also, this. Dudes changed the number of stars on their gear to reflect the number of belts they've held in their careers. And like, oh no, are they going to main event another ROH PPV with another Briscoes match? What a tragedy.
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Post by Some Guy on Nov 21, 2022 16:27:03 GMT -5
They're literally holding three different promotions' tag belts right now and all of them are thanks to their boss. This isn't exactly "ha ha they're shaving each others' backs, what homos" comedy jobber shit. They’re members of the AEW roster, I’m sure being ROH champs mean f*** all to them. AAA never takes titles seriously and the IWGP titles are the only legit titles they’re holding. I still think they got a raw deal when the Bucks were tag champs and they (especially Dax) just aren’t over it. Bad Luck Fale and Chase Owens had the belts for a month earlier this year, and Tama Tonga/Tanga Loa had a stranglehold over the belts for years with mediocre matches galore. The IWGP tag belts really don't mean anything either.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Nov 21, 2022 16:30:42 GMT -5
They’re members of the AEW roster, I’m sure being ROH champs mean f*** all to them. AAA never takes titles seriously and the IWGP titles are the only legit titles they’re holding. I still think they got a raw deal when the Bucks were tag champs and they (especially Dax) just aren’t over it. Bad Luck Fale and Chase Owens had the belts for a month earlier this year, and Tama Tonga/Tanga Loa had a stranglehold over the belts for years with mediocre matches galore. The IWGP tag belts really don't mean anything either. I was about to say. Lol. The ROH belts are probably the most legit they’ve got and that promotion barely exists I said it before. It’s super weird they were building to this FTR/Young Bucks match with FTR possibly getting the AEW belts to add to their gimmick. Then it just sorta stopped and went away
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Nov 21, 2022 16:33:46 GMT -5
The following things can all be true at the same time: 1. AEW probably should have put the tag belts back on FTR a few months ago when they were white hot. That might have been a missed opportunity. 2. If they did that, who knows if the Acclaimed get their spot, so maybe it's a moot point. 3. FTR is still respected and valued by their boss. 4. It makes sense that wrestlers publicly are never like "I'm good with my spot" because the idea is that they should always be striving for more.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 21, 2022 16:33:54 GMT -5
Also like just divorced from whether or not FTR are happy, this is absolutely a bad time to have those two gun for the tag titles. This is very definitely The Acclaimed's time, and I don't think their acts really work well for a face vs. face respect match kind of thing. Someone's gonna work heel on that match and it's either The Acclaimed getting cocky but still getting cheered, or it's FTR working heel, and both of those kind of put a damper on the whole face schtick FTR is rolling with. I think there's real value to keeping your top face teams away from each other right now, and these alternative belts do a good job of keeping them important and carrying gold literally every time they're on screen. The only more "important" they can be is in the title picture.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 21, 2022 16:35:51 GMT -5
So furious, they’re gonna have their “Bret Hart Fart Invitational” on closed circuit 😤😤
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Nov 21, 2022 16:37:36 GMT -5
Also like just divorced from whether or not FTR are happy, this is absolutely a bad time to have those two gun for the tag titles. This is very definitely The Acclaimed's time, and I don't think their acts really work well for a face vs. face respect match kind of thing. Someone's gonna work heel on that match and it's either The Acclaimed getting cocky but still getting cheered, or it's FTR working heel, and both of those kind of put a damper on the whole face schtick FTR is rolling with. I think there's real value to keeping your top face teams away from each other right now, and these alternative belts do a good job of keeping them important and carrying gold literally every time they're on screen. The only more "important" they can be is in the title picture. I dunno, FTR have such an established background as heels, they could easily slip the odd bit of that in here or there, like when Ric Flair was a face, he could still cheat at times, just overall he was a face at the time. Hell, Eddie got to the biggest part of his career being a face who cheated. Just put it over as them taking advantage of the rules, using their experience and smarts and you're good.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Nov 21, 2022 16:40:26 GMT -5
So furious, they’re gonna have their “Bret Hart Fart Invitational” on closed circuit 😤😤 Remember when FTR and Punk put out that weapons grade cringe “Sons of the Hitman” shirt? HE HAS ACTUAL SON’S! You goober marks
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 21, 2022 16:42:47 GMT -5
Also like just divorced from whether or not FTR are happy, this is absolutely a bad time to have those two gun for the tag titles. This is very definitely The Acclaimed's time, and I don't think their acts really work well for a face vs. face respect match kind of thing. Someone's gonna work heel on that match and it's either The Acclaimed getting cocky but still getting cheered, or it's FTR working heel, and both of those kind of put a damper on the whole face schtick FTR is rolling with. I think there's real value to keeping your top face teams away from each other right now, and these alternative belts do a good job of keeping them important and carrying gold literally every time they're on screen. The only more "important" they can be is in the title picture. I dunno, FTR have such an established background as heels, they could easily slip the odd bit of that in here or there, like when Ric Flair was a face, he could still cheat at times, just overall he was a face at the time. Hell, Eddie got to the biggest part of his career being a face who cheated. Just put it over as them taking advantage of the rules, using their experience and smarts and you're good. They could absolutely dip heel, but I think that hurts their face act a lot more than it'd hurt The Acclaimed to work more grey on the other end of things. They're really pushing some white meat tag team energy here and we know they can work heel, but I think once they do, it undermines the character, because their whole current schtick of "classic tag team babyfaces" starts to come into doubt if they can just cheat whenever they want to. They work best when they're all in on one side of things because their act is so built on the classics.
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Post by Kalmia on Nov 21, 2022 16:45:02 GMT -5
Also like just divorced from whether or not FTR are happy, this is absolutely a bad time to have those two gun for the tag titles. This is very definitely The Acclaimed's time, and I don't think their acts really work well for a face vs. face respect match kind of thing. Someone's gonna work heel on that match and it's either The Acclaimed getting cocky but still getting cheered, or it's FTR working heel, and both of those kind of put a damper on the whole face schtick FTR is rolling with. I think there's real value to keeping your top face teams away from each other right now, and these alternative belts do a good job of keeping them important and carrying gold literally every time they're on screen. The only more "important" they can be is in the title picture. Absolutely. Khan had to run with the Acclaimed as they're one of the most overacts in the company and are selling ridiculous amounts of merchandise. The only way you can really move forward with FTR as tag title contenders right now is if they turned heel and they're barely into their face turn. Instead, FTR has been given the angle with the Gunns and been backing up Wardlow while holding three titles. There's nothing wrong with a wrestler wanting more for themselves but I think they should gain some perspective on what they have.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 21, 2022 16:48:52 GMT -5
Also like just divorced from whether or not FTR are happy, this is absolutely a bad time to have those two gun for the tag titles. This is very definitely The Acclaimed's time, and I don't think their acts really work well for a face vs. face respect match kind of thing. Someone's gonna work heel on that match and it's either The Acclaimed getting cocky but still getting cheered, or it's FTR working heel, and both of those kind of put a damper on the whole face schtick FTR is rolling with. I think there's real value to keeping your top face teams away from each other right now, and these alternative belts do a good job of keeping them important and carrying gold literally every time they're on screen. The only more "important" they can be is in the title picture. Absolutely. Khan had to run with the Acclaimed as they're one of the most overacts in the company and are selling ridiculous amounts of merchandise. The only way you can really move forward with FTR as tag title contenders right now is if they turned heel and they're barely into their face turn. Instead, FTR has been given the angle with the Gunns and been backing up Wardlow while holding three titles. There's nothing wrong with a wrestler wanting more for themselves but I think they should gain some perspective on what they have. It's not like they've been slumming it on the Youtube shows or anything all this time, yeah. I get them wanting more but I also think the discussion around this is such a hyperbolic all or notihng that's usually reserved for an obsessive who's mad their favorite women's wrestler isn't getting a push. They're consistently on the show and winning but people are acting like they've been completely marginalized and ignored. It's weird.
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Post by Andy Martin on Nov 21, 2022 17:25:36 GMT -5
So furious, they’re gonna have their “Bret Hart Fart Invitational” on closed circuit 😤😤 Remember when FTR and Punk put out that weapons grade cringe “Sons of the Hitman” shirt? HE HAS ACTUAL SON’S! You goober marks These are grown ass men acting like that, too. It’s so f***ing strange.
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 21, 2022 18:59:20 GMT -5
Absolutely. Khan had to run with the Acclaimed as they're one of the most overacts in the company and are selling ridiculous amounts of merchandise. The only way you can really move forward with FTR as tag title contenders right now is if they turned heel and they're barely into their face turn. Instead, FTR has been given the angle with the Gunns and been backing up Wardlow while holding three titles. There's nothing wrong with a wrestler wanting more for themselves but I think they should gain some perspective on what they have. It's not like they've been slumming it on the Youtube shows or anything all this time, yeah. I get them wanting more but I also think the discussion around this is such a hyperbolic all or notihng that's usually reserved for an obsessive who's mad their favorite women's wrestler isn't getting a push. They're consistently on the show and winning but people are acting like they've been completely marginalized and ignored. It's weird. They really don’t feel like they’re on Dynamite all that much lately (Rampage has been pretty devalued in importance, IMO). There’s a wide gap between booked how they’ve been booked and thrusting them into a feud with the Acclaimed. They could be living in that area while they’re this white hot.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Nov 21, 2022 19:07:01 GMT -5
Remember when FTR and Punk put out that weapons grade cringe “Sons of the Hitman” shirt? HE HAS ACTUAL SON’S! You goober marks These are grown ass men acting like that, too. It’s so f***ing strange. And Punk is old too lol. Homeboy should be worrying about his mortgage payments but was out there simping for Bret
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