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Post by bluebeach25 on Oct 4, 2022 0:51:13 GMT -5
Savage was doing interviews around 02/03 challenging Hogan to a Real Fight. Hogan never answered to it and it never went anywhere. But there was a Incident at Tna 2004 were Hogan told Savage something which let to Savage later leaving. What was that whole Situation about? Savage's Tna Run was horrible anyway and there have been rumors about him wanting the title, which he had no business winning at that stage of his. What was Hogan doing there backstage around that time in Tna?
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Post by Sephiroth on Oct 4, 2022 4:00:28 GMT -5
By all account, Hogan was just there hanging with some old friends, he and Savage happened to. Ross paths. Hogan told Savage something along the lines of “If you want to settle this, let’s go outside right now.” Savage declined and that was the end of it.
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Post by XIII on Oct 4, 2022 6:45:38 GMT -5
Not going to lie the thought of Hogan and Savage at that point in their careers and totally broken down going outside to scrap is a comedy show. lol
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Oct 4, 2022 7:11:01 GMT -5
Not going to lie the thought of Hogan and Savage at that point in their careers and totally broken down going outside to scrap rap is a comedy show. lol Fixed. |
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Post by fortknox on Oct 4, 2022 10:47:13 GMT -5
Not going to lie the thought of Hogan and Savage at that point in their careers and totally broken down going outside to scrap rap is a comedy show. lol Fixed. |
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Oct 4, 2022 10:57:11 GMT -5
I was always more of a Savage than Hogan guy but it was pretty pathetic that Savage went to the trouble of releasing an album with multiple Hogan disses and spent the whole press tour trashing Hogan and saying he'll kick his ass then when they were actually in the same room Hogan says okay then do you want to do it and Savage ducks out and complains about an unsafe work environment.
Savage also wanted to win the world title from Jarrett at the following PPV but even TNA were like nope when he looked so terrible at Turning Point. They had to write him out of the match with a backstage beating then he came in for the finish and the only move he could do was a punch. There was no way he could work a singles match or be world champion.
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Post by lucas_lee on Oct 4, 2022 10:57:27 GMT -5
By all account, Hogan was just there hanging with some old friends, he and Savage happened to. Ross paths. Hogan told Savage something along the lines of “If you want to settle this, let’s go outside right now.” Savage declined and that was the end of it. You know what Hulk had some balls for that. Ill give him that much |
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Post by bluebeach25 on Oct 4, 2022 11:10:04 GMT -5
By all account, Hogan was just there hanging with some old friends, he and Savage happened to. Ross paths. Hogan told Savage something along the lines of “If you want to settle this, let’s go outside right now.” Savage declined and that was the end of it. You know what Hulk had some balls for that. Ill give him that much He was in way better shape than Randy in 04. Something happened with the Macho Man between 02-04 he lost much weight and muscles and he looked way older. |
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Oct 4, 2022 11:16:12 GMT -5
You know what Hulk had some balls for that. Ill give him that much He was in way better shape than Randy in 04. Something happened with the Macho Man between 02-04 he lost much weight and muscles and he looked way older. Probably just his style had caught up to him. How many elbow drops, top rope to the floor double ax handles, and whatever the move is called where you have the guy by the hed and you run and jump over the rope while impacting his throat on the ropes can you do before your body says "Enough!" |
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Post by XIII on Oct 4, 2022 13:03:43 GMT -5
You know what Hulk had some balls for that. Ill give him that much He was in way better shape than Randy in 04. Something happened with the Macho Man between 02-04 he lost much weight and muscles and he looked way older. He probably got off of the gas. Dude was juiced all the way up in WCW. |
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Post by nickcave on Oct 4, 2022 13:11:46 GMT -5
He was in way better shape than Randy in 04. Something happened with the Macho Man between 02-04 he lost much weight and muscles and he looked way older. Probably just his style had caught up to him. How many elbow drops, top rope to the floor double ax handles, and whatever the move is called where you have the guy by the hed and you run and jump over the rope while impacting his throat on the ropes can you do before your body says "Enough!" It's also easier to maintain your consistency when you are wrestling frequently enough and Savage hadn't wrestled since 2000, think of how slow and immobile Angle looked when he returned to WWE compared to him in TNA and the indies and it was 100% because he stopped wrestling for a period of time and his body finally was like nah. Savage had an even longer break |
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Post by Feyrhausen on Oct 4, 2022 13:37:40 GMT -5
Someone who was close to the situation once said they believed Savage getting so upset about Hogan was also because he realized how broken down he was and this was a way to make a graceful (ego wise) exit.
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Post by fortknox on Oct 4, 2022 20:57:43 GMT -5
He was in way better shape than Randy in 04. Something happened with the Macho Man between 02-04 he lost much weight and muscles and he looked way older. Probably just his style had caught up to him. How many elbow drops, top rope to the floor double ax handles, and whatever the move is called where you have the guy by the hed and you run and jump over the rope while impacting his throat on the ropes can you do before your body says "Enough!" The Hair Pull Hangman according to some websites.  |
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Post by Nosnorb on Oct 4, 2022 22:00:23 GMT -5
Probably just his style had caught up to him. How many elbow drops, top rope to the floor double ax handles, and whatever the move is called where you have the guy by the hed and you run and jump over the rope while impacting his throat on the ropes can you do before your body says "Enough!" It's also easier to maintain your consistency when you are wrestling frequently enough and Savage hadn't wrestled since 2000, think of how slow and immobile Angle looked when he returned to WWE compared to him in TNA and the indies and it was 100% because he stopped wrestling for a period of time and his body finally was like nah. Savage had an even longer break Angle was running on fumes from at least 2015 onwards, he looked awful in his final few matches for TNA. |
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Post by XIII on Oct 4, 2022 22:35:35 GMT -5
It's also easier to maintain your consistency when you are wrestling frequently enough and Savage hadn't wrestled since 2000, think of how slow and immobile Angle looked when he returned to WWE compared to him in TNA and the indies and it was 100% because he stopped wrestling for a period of time and his body finally was like nah. Savage had an even longer break Angle was running on fumes from at least 2015 onwards, he looked awful in his final few matches for TNA. Yo, that period where he leaned way out and was clearly pilled out of his mind was the scariest. Legit thought dude was going to drop dead at any moment. |
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Post by Hypnosis on Oct 5, 2022 21:58:20 GMT -5
Angle was running on fumes from at least 2015 onwards, he looked awful in his final few matches for TNA. Yo, that period where he leaned way out and was clearly pilled out of his mind was the scariest. Legit thought dude was going to drop dead at any moment.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2022 22:49:52 GMT -5
I was always more of a Savage than Hogan guy but it was pretty pathetic that Savage went to the trouble of releasing an album with multiple Hogan disses and spent the whole press tour trashing Hogan and saying he'll kick his ass then when they were actually in the same room Hogan says okay then do you want to do it and Savage ducks out and complains about an unsafe work environment. Savage also wanted to win the world title from Jarrett at the following PPV but even TNA were like nope when he looked so terrible at Turning Point. They had to write him out of the match with a backstage beating then he came in for the finish and the only move he could do was a punch. There was no way he could work a singles match or be world champion. Also, Savage didn't want to f***ing do anything, but he wanted to be champion, and there was the logical nightmare of "Okay, you don't want to sell or put over anybody cause you're a paranoid f***, so why should we give you the title?" Guy at the end was his own worst enemy. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 5, 2022 23:15:29 GMT -5
He was in way better shape than Randy in 04. Something happened with the Macho Man between 02-04 he lost much weight and muscles and he looked way older. Probably just his style had caught up to him. How many elbow drops, top rope to the floor double ax handles, and whatever the move is called where you have the guy by the hed and you run and jump over the rope while impacting his throat on the ropes can you do before your body says "Enough!" there was also the thing that actually destroyed his knees. The Double axehandle off the top of the cage in WCW  the fact that the flimsy cage was further out of the ring, he couldn't get a steady base to jump from and just age... pretty much caused him to require massive surgery on both knees and he wasn't the same after. |
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Oct 7, 2022 3:16:58 GMT -5
He was in way better shape than Randy in 04. Something happened with the Macho Man between 02-04 he lost much weight and muscles and he looked way older. Probably just his style had caught up to him. How many elbow drops, top rope to the floor double ax handles, and whatever the move is called where you have the guy by the hed and you run and jump over the rope while impacting his throat on the ropes can you do before your body says "Enough!" Savage was one of the few guys that would bump like crazy in that old WWF ring. Most guys didn't want to bump in a WWF ring at all because everyone says it was like falling on concrete. I know that also had to play a part. |
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Oct 7, 2022 3:20:51 GMT -5
Probably just his style had caught up to him. How many elbow drops, top rope to the floor double ax handles, and whatever the move is called where you have the guy by the hed and you run and jump over the rope while impacting his throat on the ropes can you do before your body says "Enough!" there was also the thing that actually destroyed his knees. The Double axehandle off the top of the cage in WCW the fact that the flimsy cage was further out of the ring, he couldn't get a steady base to jump from and just age... pretty much caused him to require massive surgery on both knees and he wasn't the same after. Good point. Never thought about that since I checked out on WCW about 6 months later. How sad to end such a legendary career on one ill advised move. |
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