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Post by chrom on Jan 4, 2023 6:51:28 GMT -5
That's a better diving elbow than Lethal and *light years* ahead of Punk's. Best one in wrestling today after Kairi's.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 4, 2023 6:52:35 GMT -5
Please do not put this belt on Okada, I was sick of that man's boring title reigns in 2017 Normally, I'd be inclined to agree, but Jay White has unfortunately been a really limp champion. I'd like for NJPW to try something different, or that maybe Ibushi being seen with the NJPW president leads to some reconciliation, but for now, Okada's probably the lesser evil for me just because this Jay reign isn't working. His NEVER reign sucked, too, not sure why, but he's a rare case of a heel who is a better chaser* than champion. *As in, chasing the title. I know he's the knife pervert, but I don't think I've heard anything about him being weird on Trans Twitter. I think it's because his character is a lot more suited to wanting to prove something than it is having already proven it.
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Post by chrom on Jan 4, 2023 6:53:41 GMT -5
Lio posted a photo of him being bandaged up from his cuts.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 4, 2023 6:56:55 GMT -5
Every time I see that counter I just think Jay had to have it in his head when he was picking his finisher
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Post by chrom on Jan 4, 2023 6:57:15 GMT -5
Okada and White up to the task after the US match.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 4, 2023 6:57:27 GMT -5
I love that the camera played along with him stealing the taunt.
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Post by ANuclearError on Jan 4, 2023 6:57:31 GMT -5
Normally, I'd be inclined to agree, but Jay White has unfortunately been a really limp champion. I'd like for NJPW to try something different, or that maybe Ibushi being seen with the NJPW president leads to some reconciliation, but for now, Okada's probably the lesser evil for me just because this Jay reign isn't working. His NEVER reign sucked, too, not sure why, but he's a rare case of a heel who is a better chaser* than champion. *As in, chasing the title. I know he's the knife pervert, but I don't think I've heard anything about him being weird on Trans Twitter. I think it's because his character is a lot more suited to wanting to prove something than it is having already proven it. Winning the belt during Dominion always feels like it results in a more deflated reign. It gets too easily interrupted by the G1 and Tag Leagues. I think with someone like Jay, he needs more defences outside of Japan to make up for him disappearing. Doing a double header of New Beginning and Battle in the Valley defences would be a great away to either kickstart a new Okada reign or breath life into Jay's.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 4, 2023 6:58:08 GMT -5
Camera man heel turn
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jan 4, 2023 6:58:10 GMT -5
This is tense as all hell.
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Post by chrom on Jan 4, 2023 6:58:46 GMT -5
You can feel the intensity.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 4, 2023 6:59:36 GMT -5
This match is being helped a lot by going with a wildly different tempo from the one before it. They were never going to match that one in just going totally balls-to-the-wall so making it much more of a slow, calculated grudge match works much better as a follow-up to it.
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Post by chrom on Jan 4, 2023 6:59:48 GMT -5
I think it's because his character is a lot more suited to wanting to prove something than it is having already proven it. Winning the belt during Dominion always feels like it results in a more deflated reign. It gets too easily interrupted by the G1 and Tag Leagues. I think with someone like Jay, he needs more defences outside of Japan to make up for him disappearing. Doing a double header of New Beginning and Battle in the Valley defences would be a great away to either kickstart a new Okada reign or breath life into Jay's. Dominion's a bad time to win a belt, that is when G1 starts and NJPW goes on cruise control afterwards.
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Post by chrom on Jan 4, 2023 7:01:32 GMT -5
This match is being helped a lot by going with a wildly different tempo from the one before it. They were never going to match that one in just going totally balls-to-the-wall so making it much more of a slow, calculated grudge match works much better as a follow-up to it. Playing to their strengths.
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Post by ANuclearError on Jan 4, 2023 7:03:38 GMT -5
Winning the belt during Dominion always feels like it results in a more deflated reign. It gets too easily interrupted by the G1 and Tag Leagues. I think with someone like Jay, he needs more defences outside of Japan to make up for him disappearing. Doing a double header of New Beginning and Battle in the Valley defences would be a great away to either kickstart a new Okada reign or breath life into Jay's. Dominion's a bad time to win a belt, that is when G1 starts and NJPW goes on cruise control afterwards. Since the whole "G1 winner goes to Wrestle Kingdom" thing started, I don't think the belts ever been dropped between the finals and WK. We've had the briefcase change hands, I think we're well overdue that as well.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 4, 2023 7:04:09 GMT -5
Normally, I'd be inclined to agree, but Jay White has unfortunately been a really limp champion. I'd like for NJPW to try something different, or that maybe Ibushi being seen with the NJPW president leads to some reconciliation, but for now, Okada's probably the lesser evil for me just because this Jay reign isn't working. His NEVER reign sucked, too, not sure why, but he's a rare case of a heel who is a better chaser* than champion. *As in, chasing the title. I know he's the knife pervert, but I don't think I've heard anything about him being weird on Trans Twitter. I think it's because his character is a lot more suited to wanting to prove something than it is having already proven it. It's sort of like how, I'm not saying there weren't other reasons, but I feel like people turned on Britt Baker as champion in part because the entire crux of her character is doing the WCW Jericho shtick of feeling like the world's out to get them, that there is one grave injustice after another for them to deal with, so when you have everything going her way, it seriously lets the air out of her tires.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jan 4, 2023 7:04:09 GMT -5
Holy SHIT that ending sequence. They had me thinking Jay was going to shock the audience and win. Plus the Inoki callbacks still felt modern.
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Post by Flo360 on Jan 4, 2023 7:04:15 GMT -5
I actually loved that as well. Okada is an absolute Beast of a performer, and Jay is not that far behind. Takes something, to figure out a way to follow up the US title match, and not die HHH/Orton Style out there.
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Post by chrom on Jan 4, 2023 7:04:50 GMT -5
Dominion's a bad time to win a belt, that is when G1 starts and NJPW goes on cruise control afterwards. Since the whole "G1 winner goes to Wrestle Kingdom" thing started, I don't think the belts ever been dropped between the finals and WK. We've had the briefcase change hands, I think we're well overdue that as well. Tanahashi defeated AJ in 2014.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 4, 2023 7:05:10 GMT -5
Jay crawling for the title and desperately hugging it is some incredible heel work. Up there with Triple H staring down Batista just to collapse to the mat at Mania 21.
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Post by chrom on Jan 4, 2023 7:05:41 GMT -5
Rainmaker is Champion once again.
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