So.....what's Thunder Rosa's injury?

[Mozenrath]

Feb 16, 2023 12:13:55 GMT -5 kingoftheindies said:

Feb 16, 2023 11:55:05 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

Yeah, some of the complaints, I'd get, but the injury one is "If you believe this, you're a dumbass". Like, this isn't an HBK thing, Rosa's performance suffered and she then was off the road when she'd be at the height of her ability to make money and get a spotlight. In what way would that be to her benefit? What would she gain from that?

Now, if she vacated the title right away and just strolled back around in a month, there'd be something to it, but this strikes me as people who already had a grievance letting them then give her the least benefit of the doubt possible.

Rosa was absolutely hurt, people here were complaining about her lack of tv time after winning and it was reported that she was pretty beat up... heck before she won the title Meltz said he hurt she was injured and both AEW and Rosa were quick to be like "no she's hurt not injured"

I think again a lot of the issues with Rosa go back to a lot of women just having heat with her

Yeah, it's the equivalent of when Roman heat with fans was at its peak.

It was here or elsewhere, but in a backstage promo, Roman briefly had a phone out like he was checking texts before putting it away. I remember seeing a fan get DEEPLY pissed about it, going on like "who does he think he is, doing that during a show?!" Like, reading this haughty, egotistical motive into an everyday, normal behavior.

When someone is predisposed to disliking someone, they will read everything as evidence of that person sucking and not give them the benefit of the doubt.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Feb 16, 2023 11:55:05 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

Feb 15, 2023 23:41:57 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Questioning her injury is really shitty tho

Yeah, some of the complaints, I'd get, but the injury one is "If you believe this, you're a dumbass". Like, this isn't an HBK thing, Rosa's performance suffered and she then was off the road when she'd be at the height of her ability to make money and get a spotlight. In what way would that be to her benefit? What would she gain from that?

Now, if she vacated the title right away and just strolled back around in a month, there'd be something to it, but this strikes me as people who already had a grievance letting them then give her the least benefit of the doubt possible.

She’s been gone months for people still bringing up her injury is a shitty thing to do. Yes, she was an asshole but she was gone and if y’all still holding to grudges in the back and being petty then what we doing

Should Rosa apologize and make amends for how shitty she was. Yes, but she shouldn’t have to kiss ass and walk on egg shells either

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Feb 16, 2023 11:48:50 GMT -5 kingoftheindies said:

Feb 16, 2023 10:03:32 GMT -5 hotshotalex said:

Not only that but using her not going to Japan during a Panedemic as proof as she had heat there.

Then posting an old interview where she said nothing worse than what has been said about her trying to stir the pot.

Hell Britt has attacked her using insider terms on national TV while winking at the camera.


It’s just something about Thunder Rosa that make people lose all common sense.

I think for a lot of the women in AEW when they were coming up, Rosa was the draw for a bunch of indies and with all the rumors out there there's probably some truth to issues so I wouldn't be shocked if there were issues before AEW and then they boiled over in AEW.

Questioning her injury is really shitty tho

It is but a few women did it after she had to step away.

Either way, I think no matter what it's safe to say in some sense Rosa acted poorly before the injury

And it was shitty when Britt did it months ago while giving Statlander praise. If they want to talk about her behavior beforehand that’s all good but I think just throwing stuff out there because you don’t like that person is shitty.

She no doubt acted poorly and lost a lot of her good rep at what should been height of her career

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

Honestly, this is a “outta sight, outta mind” business in a lot of cases but here particularly, to be the centerpiece of a division, go down…and then get replaced instantly, with virtually nobody missing you and folks even saying that things have improved since you’ve left, that…that’s not great for long-term prospects, right?

[Banjo Is Broken]

Do we know for sure that she is officially out of the bathroom yet? I mean, she could still be in the bathroom and be doing commentary.

[Mozenrath]

Feb 16, 2023 14:39:36 GMT -5 Magic knows Black Lives Matter said:

Honestly, this is a “outta sight, outta mind” business in a lot of cases but here particularly, to be the centerpiece of a division, go down…and then get replaced instantly, with virtually nobody missing you and folks even saying that things have improved since you’ve left, that…that’s not great for long-term prospects, right?

I miss Thunder Rosa, Woman Chasing the Title, not so much Thunder Rosa, Busted Champ. Obviously not her fault, exactly, but it also makes me hope whenever she;s back that her body and mind are both in better shape than when we saw her last.

[markymark]

Speaking on Busted Open Radio, Rosa noted that she's doing commentary for all AEW shows.

"It's like the whole spectrum of the show. Doing commentary, and I've said this before, it's not an easy task. One, we are, many times translating live some of the action that is happening. If someone cuts a promo, we have to translate 'like that.' As you can imagine, your brain is on overload, and you have the music and the people, and everything. It's not an easy task. I'm super excited that the company was able to give me another platform to develop the other skills that I have. I have excellent reviews, I'm working on it even more. I felt that it was a need for me to start taking broadcasting classes because I'm doing this more and I want to get better. I have to be a champion on this and be the best that I can be," she said. "The other aspect that I'm doing with AEW is doing a lot of interviews to promote the show. It's important to get the word out of AEW. We want more eyes on the show and it's important for us to be more successful."

Rosa said it was nice to hear the crowd again and being away since August. She also noted she talked to various women backstage to get notes on moves and how they should be called.

Speaking about her rehab and eventual in-ring return, Rosa said, "I'm taking my time and rehab is going well. I actually lifted, I did deadlifts for the first time, five little pounds. I'm feeling a lot stronger. I want to make sure that when I return to the ring, I'm ready mentally and physically. I want to give the best show that I can and the new Thunder Rosa is coming. I'm focusing on myself and what I need to do when I return. When I come back, everyone will know that I'm coming back. Every setback is an opportunity to work on things you don't work on. I'm doing my homework now. The same person that left seven months ago can't come back."

Rosa said that Adam Cole's comments on having a different perspective after suffering a major injury resonated with her as she's looking at things differently as well.

www.fightful.com/wrestling/thunder-rosa-comments-aew-commentary-role-not-returning-ring-same-person?utm_source=TW-Fightful&utm_medium=Fightful%20Wrestling%20News&utm_campaign=dlvr.it

[The Captain]

I'm glad it sounds like Rosa had a proverbial "come to Jesus" moment on not just her career, but the way she is as a person.

I can only hope other certain injured wrestlers with a reputation will one day follow in her example.

[Deleted]

I'm glad they had a role for her, it was scary watching he preform those last couple months as champ, they should have had her drop the title. Its crazy she was loved by fans, most coworkers, had a decent school going, busting her ass everywhere, and she was great in the ring. Then all that changed there was the AEW high school politics, putting her foot in her mouth one to many times, injuries where she looked like a completely different wrestler, scary botches, and an overall pissy attitude. It's kinda weird to say but she pretty much became Ivelisse, which is the one of things that drew support for her in the first place.

[lucas_lee]

This is in anticipation for tonight. This topic is gonna blow up due to All Access. From what I've read, people may not have to like Thunder but don't question her injury and her health status. That's pretty cruel.

[Mid-Carder]

Mar 29, 2023 16:13:15 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

This is in anticipation for tonight. This topic is gonna blow up due to All Access. From what I've read, people may not have to like Thunder but don't question her injury and her health status. That's pretty cruel.

I was surprised at how they threw Rosa under the bus in All Access. The interim thing wasn't her decision, it was Tony's decision, and his decision to keep the title on Rosa. If Britt et al were frustrated about the interim thing, as we all were, she's directing her blame at the wrong person.

Also there's a world of difference between flying to seminars and signings while injured and physically wrestling while injured.

[asuka007]

Judging by the previews for Episode 2, we’ll be hearing from Rosa herself.

So at least she might get the chance to tell her side if she wants to.

[lucas_lee]

Mar 30, 2023 11:43:35 GMT -5 Mid-Carder said:

Mar 29, 2023 16:13:15 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

This is in anticipation for tonight. This topic is gonna blow up due to All Access. From what I've read, people may not have to like Thunder but don't question her injury and her health status. That's pretty cruel.

I was surprised at how they threw Rosa under the bus in All Access. The interim thing wasn't her decision, it was Tony's decision, and his decision to keep the title on Rosa. If Britt et al were frustrated about the interim thing, as we all were, she's directing her blame at the wrong person.

Also there's a world of difference between flying to seminars and signings while injured and physically wrestling while injured.

Also Rosa is the one who told TK she'll give up the title so it doesn't have the interim title on it. The interview with Britt about what she said on All Access as well is pretty horrible. Rosa might be a hard person to work with but she doesn't deserve that level of mockery on TV. The optics of airing that versus them not even mentioning Punk is telling.

[HMARK Center]

Also a friendly reminder that reality TV is pretty close to actual weekly wrestling shows on the Work-o-Meter.

[Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby]

The degree of trashing Rosa got me to stop watching the show, because geez, it was just brutal and unpleasant.

It also just kept reverberating in my head - this isn't Rosa's fault! Tony Khan booked this interim title thing!! But I guess you can't actually say that, or it's easier to take it out on the not-boss that you're frustrated with otherwise.

I have to hope it's being played up for reality TV, which even makes me question if that skewed the reporting - whether people overhearing the reality show footage, or the drama being allowed to air in public because it was going to be a big part of a new show.

[lucas_lee]

Mar 30, 2023 12:03:48 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Also a friendly reminder that reality TV is pretty close to actual weekly wrestling shows on the Work-o-Meter.

That statement would make sense if this wasn't floating in the dirt sheets from other AEW wrestlers. I'm not a fan of TR but she deserves better than that. Slandering her like that really doesn't do anyone any favors and will fan the flames again.

[Mozenrath]

If it's still going on by then, would be kind of funny if kayfabe Britt has to go and basically beg Thunder Rosa to join with her and fight Storm and co. Like actually have to eat some crow.

[lildude8218]

[Source] Mid-Carder said:

If Britt et al were frustrated about the interim thing, as we all were, she's directing her blame at the wrong person

I don't think E.T. or Al Snow have ever gone on record about disliking this.

[asuka007]

Mar 30, 2023 12:39:05 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

Mar 30, 2023 12:03:48 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Also a friendly reminder that reality TV is pretty close to actual weekly wrestling shows on the Work-o-Meter.

That statement would make sense if this wasn't floating in the dirt sheets from other AEW wrestlers. I'm not a fan of TR but she deserves better than that. Slandering her like that really doesn't do anyone any favors and will fan the flames again.

Also the show was going into some seemingly legit issues. Like Adam Cole’s recovery and Sammy and Tay’s stuff as well.

[The Captain]

Those were four people (Britt, Toni, Jamie, and Saraya) that were really frustrated and it was a big venting session. Like, the stuff about the interim tag on Toni's championship specifically came off to me about being more about the situation in general, and it didn't sound like Rosa was being specifically blamed for that. The other stuff, though. Yikes.

Guess it shows that the issues between Rosa and the rest of the women's roster were pretty legit. It's pretty shitty to question if someone is faking or overselling a real injury and this whole "hustle through injuries because WORK ETHIC" attitude really should go away from the industry. Konnan being Konnan probably didn't help things at all as not enough people realize his whole deal is being a professional bullshit artist. But it's also missing a lot of context on why the women's locker room seems to despise Rosa like that.

I really hope that the backstage meeting when Rosa returned to being on the road included addressing what was said on All Access. And that this didn't blindside her. Otherwise, any progress made in that meeting could really be up in smoke.