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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 17, 2022 17:34:36 GMT -5
The Day 1 thread brought back terrible memories on the end of Big E's fist WWE title reign.
Maybe if Triple H was in power sooner, we would've had a better ending.
So if we go back to early 2022 and yes, that feels like TEN years ago. How do you end the Big E title reign?
Against Lashley at Wrestlemania? Drew at Wrestlemania? Big E vs. Brock Lesnar in a straight up match? Big E vs. his idol Goldberg?
I think ALL of us could come up with better ideas than what was actually executed here.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Oct 17, 2022 19:35:51 GMT -5
Big E vs. Brock in a non-squash match would have been pretty good if Brock was down to give Big E some shine. No one is really going to think less of E if he drops the title in a valiant effort against WWE's superboss, and it would be hard to do any worse than the Kofi match.
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Post by chronocross on Oct 17, 2022 19:50:01 GMT -5
I would have had Seth beat him at the Day 1 PPV in January.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2022 8:14:57 GMT -5
Big E vs. Brock in a non-squash match would have been pretty good if Brock was down to give Big E some shine. No one is really going to think less of E if he drops the title in a valiant effort against WWE's superboss, and it would be hard to do any worse than the Kofi match. Big E is built like a brick shithouse. I could've bought him going toe to toe with Brock. But in all honesty, his reign was a flop. He was still "New Day" Big E. That was the problem.
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Post by Nosnorb on Oct 18, 2022 12:07:35 GMT -5
Big E vs. Brock in a non-squash match would have been pretty good if Brock was down to give Big E some shine. No one is really going to think less of E if he drops the title in a valiant effort against WWE's superboss, and it would be hard to do any worse than the Kofi match. Big E is built like a brick shithouse. I could've bought him going toe to toe with Brock. But in all honesty, his reign was a flop. He was still "New Day" Big E. That was the problem. The big problem was how the reign started, which was via a cash in after Lashley had beaten Orton. Thats a really bad way to start off a title reign as a face, and he also lost quite a few matches on free TV. There was also the bizarre set up to the WWE Title match at Day 1. Big E was up against it from the second his reign started, and WWE didn't help with him losing on free TV, not being a focus of the show and his reign stated on the night Monday Night Football began, and ended when Monday Night Football ended. From where I'm looking at, Big E was set up to fail.
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Post by beefy on Oct 18, 2022 17:34:20 GMT -5
Simple: you don’t.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2022 0:37:47 GMT -5
I hate MitB at this point. Big E should have won the rumble and beaten Roman for the title at mania.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Oct 19, 2022 2:35:07 GMT -5
Barely survive a match with Brock and then get MITBed
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Oct 19, 2022 2:58:41 GMT -5
Defeated at Wrestlemania by Omos.
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Post by Push R Truth on Oct 20, 2022 13:20:54 GMT -5
If Roman can hold a title for 5+ years than Big E can hold one for at least 2
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Post by darthobiwan on Oct 20, 2022 20:56:26 GMT -5
Still think it would have been interesting to see a New Day triple threat with Big E vs Kofi Kingston vs Xavier Woods at Wrestlemania. Big E can be the defending champion, then either Kofi or Xaiver wins Royal Rumble, then the other wins a number 1 contenders match and they "explode" all wanting the title lol.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 21, 2022 5:57:15 GMT -5
In a title defense where he looked good after a decent reign would be nice.
Didn't he lose it in a 4-way? He could even have not been pinned so he had a claim on it later.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Oct 21, 2022 7:27:20 GMT -5
If we're also talking about why the reign failed, it's because they did one of those half-hearted reigns they sometimes pull with midcarders where they give them the first "moment" and then don't follow up on it.
If we're talking about how it should have ended, honestly, I think a one-on-one where he just lost to Brock in a valiant effort would have been fine. The problem was they not only didn't build Big E, they didn't build challengers.
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Post by Nosnorb on Oct 21, 2022 7:46:26 GMT -5
In a title defense where he looked good after a decent reign would be nice. Didn't he lose it in a 4-way? He could even have not been pinned so he had a claim on it later. Five way, after Kevin Owens and Bobby Lashley were added to the Big E/Rollins match, then Beastie Boy was put in the match after Reigns tested positive for COVID. The match lasted just 8 minutes.
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Post by canceled4truth on Oct 21, 2022 10:51:42 GMT -5
[putting on my fantasy booker hat] His reign started off good with wins against McIntyre and Lashley, but he didn't really have a signature feud/storyline otherwise. I'd have him feud with, like, Seth or KO for a bit, beat him in a title match in Day 1, maybe even beat Roman at Survivor Series, and then he can drop the belt to Brock at the Rumble in a competitive match if we must do the unification match. Or Seth, if he didn't feud with him already.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 21, 2022 10:52:26 GMT -5
Unlike Kofi, Big E has the added problem that his initial title win was pretty shitty and nonsensical. He beat a weakened opponent when he needed that strong win to help establish him at the top of the card.
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Post by Nosnorb on Oct 21, 2022 13:06:44 GMT -5
His reign started off good with wins against McIntyre and Lashley If you are a babyface and your reign starts off with a cash-in on an opponent that had just gone toe to toe with one of the most decorated performers in WWE History and a dude that had held the belt the previous year, then it has not started off good.
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Post by canceled4truth on Oct 22, 2022 0:37:54 GMT -5
His reign started off good with wins against McIntyre and Lashley If you are a babyface and your reign starts off with a cash-in on an opponent that had just gone toe to toe with one of the most decorated performers in WWE History and a dude that had held the belt the previous year, then it has not started off good. Yeah, and then he beat him again on Raw in a cage match, which is what I was referring to
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