Shin Megami Tensei 30th Anniversary

[Lizuka #BLM]

Kind of never really something I've had a lot of real exposure to but hey, we've got a thread for Persona. I kind of keep wondering about checking out 5 or Nocturne but just never getting around to it. Owned 4 for years and never really made much time for it either, maybe should change that I suppose.

[Schizo]

Will a 30th anniversary ruin the Tensei gimmick?

[darbus alan]

I'm guessing it's the specific anniversary of Shin Megami Tensei itself because the MegaTen game franchise as a whole goes back to the late 80's (with the original book that started everything in 1986).

Shame SMT1 and 2 never got proper English localizations. They'd be really rough around the edges even compared to RPG's of that timeframe, but I thought SMT2 especially had a pretty interesting story.

[Desi]

I would ask for a english release of SMT 1 & 2, but I know I'm not gonna play them because I can't do first person POV without getting nauseous.

If anything, I wish they'd re-release SMT 4/Apocalypse again (or even better, remake them.)

But given how poorly the Persona Anniversary went, I doubt they'll be putting much effort into this. 🙃

[darbus alan]

We did get ports of P3, P4, and Ultimax for the Persona anniversary. So maybe more ports of SMT games for the SMT anniversary. 🙃

[Johnny B. Decent]

Oct 30, 2022 0:43:45 GMT -5 darbus alan said:

I'm guessing it's the specific anniversary of Shin Megami Tensei itself because the MegaTen game franchise as a whole goes back to the late 80's (with the original book that started everything in 1986).

Shame SMT1 and 2 never got proper English localizations. They'd be really rough around the edges even compared to RPG's of that timeframe, but I thought SMT2 especially had a pretty interesting story.

I, uh, imagine the whole plot that no matter which route you go that God is a utterly evil monster that must be slain would have ruffled some feathers here in the 90's.

[darbus alan]

Oct 30, 2022 13:30:49 GMT -5 Johnny B. Decent said:

Oct 30, 2022 0:43:45 GMT -5 darbus alan said:

I'm guessing it's the specific anniversary of Shin Megami Tensei itself because the MegaTen game franchise as a whole goes back to the late 80's (with the original book that started everything in 1986).

Shame SMT1 and 2 never got proper English localizations. They'd be really rough around the edges even compared to RPG's of that timeframe, but I thought SMT2 especially had a pretty interesting story.

I, uh, imagine the whole plot that no matter which route you go that God is a utterly evil monster that must be slain would have ruffled some feathers here in the 90's.

I do like that Satan in SMT2 is also Torah/Old Testament-accurate as someone who is more of a Divine Prosecutor that's working for God instead of a fallen angel and the Devil (who is Lucifer in much of MegaTen lore; the two also are almost always different Demons/Shadows/etc).

But yeah, YHWH is a real dick in SMT2 lol.

[Allie Kitsune]

Oct 30, 2022 13:30:49 GMT -5 Johnny B. Decent said:

Oct 30, 2022 0:43:45 GMT -5 darbus alan said:

I'm guessing it's the specific anniversary of Shin Megami Tensei itself because the MegaTen game franchise as a whole goes back to the late 80's (with the original book that started everything in 1986).

Shame SMT1 and 2 never got proper English localizations. They'd be really rough around the edges even compared to RPG's of that timeframe, but I thought SMT2 especially had a pretty interesting story.

I, uh, imagine the whole plot that no matter which route you go that God is a utterly evil monster that must be slain would have ruffled some feathers here in the 90's.

It's kind of hilarious that in the mainline 3DS games, God AND Satan are implied to be significantly less powerful than Stephen Hawking.

[Rave]

Oct 30, 2022 0:05:38 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Kind of never really something I've had a lot of real exposure to but hey, we've got a thread for Persona. I kind of keep wondering about checking out 5 or Nocturne but just never getting around to it. Owned 4 for years and never really made much time for it either, maybe should change that I suppose.

It's a good time to get Nocturne, since the remaster's out.

If you're going to play 4, try to find a copy of Apocalypse. It's something of a continuation/alternate take on part of 4's story. Both were very good.

[Raskovnik]

Just give me a Digital Devil Saga port. Those are the best ones.

[darbus alan]

Oct 30, 2022 19:47:16 GMT -5 Raskovnik said:

Just give me a Digital Devil Saga port. Those are the best ones.

I'd love to see those get ports, but it won't be because of this anniversary. The Digital Devil Saga games aren't SMT games. They were only given that title in the West because Atlus was trying to use "Shin Megami Tensei" as a brand for the overall MegaTen franchise during the PS2 era. They stopped doing that after awhile (like how Persona 5 is just called Persona 5 instead of SMT: Persona 5 like P3 and P4 originally were). In Japan, the two DDS games are called Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner 1 & 2.

SMT in Japan is all the numbered entries and their spinoffs/sequels like SMT2 Gaiden and SMT4 Apocalypse, Strange Journey, if..., NINE, a few mobile and pachislot games, and IMAGINE, a defunct MMORPG.

[Fundertaker]

Oct 30, 2022 20:54:19 GMT -5 darbus alan said:

Oct 30, 2022 19:47:16 GMT -5 Raskovnik said:

Just give me a Digital Devil Saga port. Those are the best ones.

I'd love to see those get ports, but it won't be because of this anniversary. The Digital Devil Saga games aren't SMT games. They were only given that title in the West because Atlus was trying to use "Shin Megami Tensei" as a brand for the overall MegaTen franchise during the PS2 era. They stopped doing that after awhile (like how Persona 5 is just called Persona 5 instead of SMT: Persona 5 like P3 and P4 originally were). In Japan, the two DDS games are called Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner 1 & 2.

SMT in Japan is all the numbered entries and their spinoffs/sequels like SMT2 Gaiden and SMT4 Apocalypse, Strange Journey, if..., NINE, a few mobile and pachislot games, and IMAGINE, a defunct MMORPG.

I played IMAGINE back in the day. Was actually pretty fun for a F2P MMORPG (or at least it was F2P when I did). Obviously the big gimmick was that you could catch demons and use them afterwards. Never got too far in it (I just can't stomach more than 10 hours of a single MMORPG. And I got to 10 hours on this and Maple Story as my max), but I thought it was pretty cool.

[Allie Kitsune]

Oct 30, 2022 20:54:19 GMT -5 darbus alan said:

Oct 30, 2022 19:47:16 GMT -5 Raskovnik said:

Just give me a Digital Devil Saga port. Those are the best ones.

I'd love to see those get ports, but it won't be because of this anniversary. The Digital Devil Saga games aren't SMT games. They were only given that title in the West because Atlus was trying to use "Shin Megami Tensei" as a brand for the overall MegaTen franchise during the PS2 era. They stopped doing that after awhile (like how Persona 5 is just called Persona 5 instead of SMT: Persona 5 like P3 and P4 originally were). In Japan, the two DDS games are called Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner 1 & 2.

SMT in Japan is all the numbered entries and their spinoffs/sequels like SMT2 Gaiden and SMT4 Apocalypse, Strange Journey, if..., NINE, a few mobile and pachislot games, and IMAGINE, a defunct MMORPG.

And the only reason they decided not to make Strange Journey a numbered entry is because they decided numbered entries have to be reserved for plots that take place in Tokyo.

[Deleted]

now would be the time to release as many ports or new games as possible so of course, atlus will release a pin set and if we’re lucky, a raidou mug