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Post by AwamoriRock on Mar 20, 2023 22:15:52 GMT -5
Watching in Japan has been nuts. People are going nuts.
I hope Mookie Betts hits four grand slams tomorrow lol
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Post by Renslayer on Mar 20, 2023 22:18:05 GMT -5
The WBC rules
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Post by Renslayer on Mar 20, 2023 22:20:42 GMT -5
But I go back to my original point- is it really unplausible to do this in November? Let's put it this way: the Premier 12 tournament (which is another international national team tournament) happens in November. MLB just said: no 40-man roster players. Which means most non Cuba, Japan and Korea teams are gutted if they wanted to go for the title. So yeah, I don't think moving to November would be a good idea at all. If anything, owners could seek some sort of compensation if the injury is from something that really happened because of WBC training/games (so we're excluding Edwin Diaz like cases here), which is something similar to what happens in international football/soccer. Friend of mine mentioned doing it in july. Think that would be awesome
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Post by BRV on Mar 21, 2023 10:21:36 GMT -5
Let's put it this way: the Premier 12 tournament (which is another international national team tournament) happens in November. MLB just said: no 40-man roster players. Which means most non Cuba, Japan and Korea teams are gutted if they wanted to go for the title. So yeah, I don't think moving to November would be a good idea at all. If anything, owners could seek some sort of compensation if the injury is from something that really happened because of WBC training/games (so we're excluding Edwin Diaz like cases here), which is something similar to what happens in international football/soccer. Friend of mine mentioned doing it in july. Think that would be awesome I don't see how Major League Baseball owners would ever go for a two-week tournament in the middle of summer, which would effectively leave about 25 MLB ballparks empty during the peak of what's supposed to be baseball season. That's two weeks of ticket sales, concessions, merchandise, TV ratings, all coming to a halt. And it would also effectively be a two-week layoff for the players not participating in the tournament, who have been playing every day for three months. These guys are creatures of habit, they're used to a certain rhythm from April through October, and breaking that up would potentially end hot streaks, winning streaks, or altogether halt a player or team's momentum. And for the fans who don't have a vested interest in the WBC, you're putting their team's season on hold while there are no other sports to watch, so they'd have to suddenly gear back up for the season after it was frozen in place two weeks earlier. It's fine where it is, right in the middle of March, because the MLB players are getting ready for the season, there's no interruption to the 162 games that matter in the Major League Baseball season, and it almost serves as an appetizer to the upcoming season.
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Post by The Captain on Mar 21, 2023 14:08:53 GMT -5
Yea, at this point it will be hard to backtrack otherwise it will just be like the Olympics which MLB American players hardly even get up for (Def don't get none of the best) You need the WBC for global growth of the game But I go back to my original point- is it really unplausible to do this in November? Apparently, yes. The WBC head said that between competition from college/pro football and coming off of grueling regular MLB season and nagging injuries, that it'd be untenable to hold it in November. The WBC where it is replaces the otherwise meaningless Spring Training and don't have to worry about TV partner conflicts from the NFL and NCAAF seasons. A midsummer WBC around, say, the All-Star Break also is untenable because of the way the Asian pro leagues are scheduled on top of any potential problems with MLB schedules.
March really is the best time to hold it, it seems.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 21, 2023 18:28:22 GMT -5
But I go back to my original point- is it really unplausible to do this in November? Apparently, yes. The WBC head said that between competition from college/pro football and coming off of grueling regular MLB season and nagging injuries, that it'd be untenable to hold it in November. The WBC where it is replaces the otherwise meaningless Spring Training and don't have to worry about TV partner conflicts from the NFL and NCAAF seasons. A midsummer WBC around, say, the All-Star Break also is untenable because of the way the Asian pro leagues are scheduled on top of any potential problems with MLB schedules.
March really is the best time to hold it, it seems.
Yeah, this is the perfect time as not like you have a playbook in MLB, you just need reps which is what they are getting in WBC. This turns meaningless Spring training games into fun I don't see them jumping off a cliff for a few injuries
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Post by The Captain on Mar 21, 2023 18:59:12 GMT -5
Apparently, yes. The WBC head said that between competition from college/pro football and coming off of grueling regular MLB season and nagging injuries, that it'd be untenable to hold it in November. The WBC where it is replaces the otherwise meaningless Spring Training and don't have to worry about TV partner conflicts from the NFL and NCAAF seasons. A midsummer WBC around, say, the All-Star Break also is untenable because of the way the Asian pro leagues are scheduled on top of any potential problems with MLB schedules.
March really is the best time to hold it, it seems.
Yeah, this is the perfect time as not like you have a playbook in MLB, you just need reps which is what they are getting in WBC. This turns meaningless Spring training games into fun I don't see them jumping off a cliff for a few injuries The Edwin Diaz injury was such a freak thing, too. Like that could've happened anywhere. Only thing really bad about the timing for the WBC this year is all the new rules for this year's upcoming season. Means we're going to see some stupid outs or balls/strikes called in April and May that will produce hot takes and thinkpieces from fans and talking heads until the players get used to the new paradigm.
This Murakami guy is something else. Damn.
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Post by Renslayer on Mar 21, 2023 19:59:14 GMT -5
USA bats gotta wake up
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Post by sfvega on Mar 21, 2023 20:11:29 GMT -5
Japan has flawless fundamentals. They work the count really well, make good reads on balls in the outfield, get contact when they absolutely need to (though today it was Nootbaar and he's from the US), just play really well within themselves. I've missed that a lot from the modern game of Marcell Ozuna reads in the outfield and Adam Dunn approach at the plate.
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Post by ghost on Mar 21, 2023 21:19:35 GMT -5
Looks like we are going to see Ohtani pitching to Trout in the 9th.
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Post by sfvega on Mar 21, 2023 21:45:31 GMT -5
That is the perfect way to end the best WBC I'll ever see. The current best player in the world vs. the former as teammates with the game on the line, throwing 100. Feels like the 2006 Rose Bowl of WBCs.
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Post by prettynami on Mar 21, 2023 21:46:49 GMT -5
What a spicy ending! I feel bad for the USA, they were amazing the past week and had a bunch of great games. But this Japanese team, wow!
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 21, 2023 21:47:46 GMT -5
FUTURE MET SHOHEI OHTANI WINS IT AGAINST TROUT! ...sorry, imagination got me a little excited, there.
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Post by Renslayer on Mar 21, 2023 21:48:36 GMT -5
Ohtani is that guy
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Post by The Captain on Mar 21, 2023 21:55:12 GMT -5
BTW, in case anyone thought that the few injuries would make MLB less likely to let its players being used, Rob Manfred just said today he wants to see even more big name star pitchers in the next WBC. It's here to stay.
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Post by Perd on Mar 21, 2023 22:00:07 GMT -5
I don't think there’s any overstating what an absolute unicorn Ohtami is. A true 1-of-1. There is nothing else like him in sports.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Mar 21, 2023 22:07:59 GMT -5
Hey Doyers, give him $600 million.
Stephen A's Ohtani take as dumb as it always was.
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Post by jm on Mar 21, 2023 22:12:56 GMT -5
As unbelievable as it is to imagine, Ohtani earned himself even more money in this WBC. Leading the Japanese team to the title as its star player. Could he be the first ever billion dollar player in sports coming up this offseason? I wouldn't be shocked to see it.
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Post by jm on Mar 21, 2023 22:17:32 GMT -5
Good pitching beat good hitting. Every. Single. Time.
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Post by Renslayer on Mar 21, 2023 22:17:43 GMT -5
LET'S REALLY SHOW THESE BROKE BOIS WHO'S WHO, STEVE COHEN
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