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Post by wildojinx on Nov 9, 2022 0:04:48 GMT -5
Considering Austin cashed in (and failed) to win the US title, and the US title being the focal point of RAW most weeks, is it safe to say that the US title is basically the RAW title? I mean, Roman has the actual WWE World Championship, but he rarely shows up on RAW in the first place, they might as well just make the US belt the RAW World Championship. I will say that they've built it up pretty well as an important title.
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Post by Chiral on Nov 9, 2022 0:14:03 GMT -5
I think it'd be smart to put SOMETHING there if the Undisputed/Universal is gonna be at that unattainable tier indefinitely. You could have titles at the level that world titles were previously at if you're gonna keep Roman so far above everyone else just so there's something to fight for in men's singles at the top of each show. Here's a hastily made MS Paint chart to illustrate:
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 9, 2022 0:15:52 GMT -5
This is something we’ve been wanting them to do for years in this age of part-time long-running world champions. Build up the US and IC titles in their frequent absence.
I don’t think officially renaming them as world titles is necessary, though.
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Post by asuka007 on Nov 9, 2022 1:35:59 GMT -5
I mean they’re trying. The issue is Roman still appearing on SD regularly.
So Raw still comes across like the B-show.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Nov 9, 2022 11:20:01 GMT -5
This is something we’ve been wanting them to do for years in this age of part-time long-running world champions. Build up the US and IC titles in their frequent absence. I don’t think officially renaming them as world titles is necessary, though. No but its a very naked attempt when they do it which asks the question why not try to always maintain a level below and have it turned up a notch instead of trying to microwave it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 16:07:03 GMT -5
Theory thought cashing in his gauranteed World Title shot and potential Mania main event wasn't as good as winning a midcard title he's already held just months ago.
And we used to call Slapjack an idiot.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Nov 10, 2022 16:11:39 GMT -5
He....he cashed in on the US TITLE?
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Nov 10, 2022 16:17:47 GMT -5
Not as long as Ali is actively in the title picture.
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Post by Nosnorb on Nov 10, 2022 16:20:23 GMT -5
He....he cashed in on the US TITLE? And lost. In front of 5000 people. In Wilkes-Barre.
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 10, 2022 20:53:20 GMT -5
Not as long as Ali is actively in the title picture. Cold
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Post by Error on Nov 10, 2022 23:08:45 GMT -5
I read a report that that was the idea behind the cash in. The US Title is the top on Raw and he's now in the mix with Seth, Lashley, and (by extension) Lesnar. So yeah he failed the cash in on the US Title but it was done to solidify him in the Raw main event picture.
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Post by Nosnorb on Nov 10, 2022 23:24:59 GMT -5
I read a report that that was the idea behind the cash in. The US Title is the top on Raw and he's now in the mix with Seth, Lashley, and (by extension) Lesnar. So yeah he failed the cash in on the US Title but it was done to solidify him in the Raw main event picture. So, by failing to get the job done after Lashley had beaten the piss out of Rollins, dude is now a Raw main eventer. Makes perfect sense.
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 11, 2022 0:13:49 GMT -5
I read a report that that was the idea behind the cash in. The US Title is the top on Raw and he's now in the mix with Seth, Lashley, and (by extension) Lesnar. So yeah he failed the cash in on the US Title but it was done to solidify him in the Raw main event picture. So, by failing to get the job done after Lashley had beaten the piss out of Rollins, dude is now a Raw main eventer. Makes perfect sense. To be fair, Lashley beat the piss out of Theory too. That’s why he didn’t win. He had Rollins pinned when Lashley interfered.
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Post by mattyy on Nov 11, 2022 0:44:10 GMT -5
He....he cashed in on the US TITLE? wasn't otis going to cash in on the tag titles, but lost the briefcase in court to the miz while he was using it as a lunch box?
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Post by Nosnorb on Nov 11, 2022 1:15:21 GMT -5
So, by failing to get the job done after Lashley had beaten the piss out of Rollins, dude is now a Raw main eventer. Makes perfect sense. To be fair, Lashley beat the piss out of Theory too. That’s why he didn’t win. He had Rollins pinned when Lashley interfered. There was a good amount of time between the bell ringing to start the match and Lashley pulling out the ref. The A - Town Clown should have gotten the job done before that point.
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Post by asuka007 on Nov 11, 2022 1:17:35 GMT -5
They had Seth kicking out of Most of Theory’s big moves, after getting destroyed by Lashley, and even managing to fight back as well.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Nov 11, 2022 2:38:31 GMT -5
24/7 Title becomes the new US Title. Ehh??
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 11, 2022 7:08:50 GMT -5
To be fair, Lashley beat the piss out of Theory too. That’s why he didn’t win. He had Rollins pinned when Lashley interfered. There was a good amount of time between the bell ringing to start the match and Lashley pulling out the ref. The A - Town Clown should have gotten the job done before that point. Okay? He still had him beat so they can go that route with the story if they want him to still be in the mix. Or if they want to shuffle him down the card, they can still do that as well. Works either way. Banging the drum on this as if people should be outraged by the booking doesn’t really apply here where most people don’t really like Theory anyway.
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Post by Nosnorb on Nov 11, 2022 7:50:27 GMT -5
There was a good amount of time between the bell ringing to start the match and Lashley pulling out the ref. The A - Town Clown should have gotten the job done before that point. Okay? He still had him beat so they can go that route with the story if they want him to still be in the mix. Or if they want to shuffle him down the card, they can still do that as well. Works either way. Banging the drum on this as if people should be outraged by the booking doesn’t really apply here where most people don’t really like Theory anyway. Considering that the case was wasted this year, it's a bad piece of booking no matter your opinion on Theory. If he ain't the dude, then put the thing on someone who is and don't make him look like a complete and utter dickhead.
I don't see why anyone should take the dude seriously when the one thing he had going for him (the case) was spaffed up the wall.
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 11, 2022 10:09:13 GMT -5
Okay? He still had him beat so they can go that route with the story if they want him to still be in the mix. Or if they want to shuffle him down the card, they can still do that as well. Works either way. Banging the drum on this as if people should be outraged by the booking doesn’t really apply here where most people don’t really like Theory anyway. Considering that the case was wasted this year, it's a bad piece of booking no matter your opinion on Theory. If he ain't the dude, then put the thing on someone who is and don't make him look like a complete and utter dickhead.
I don't see why anyone should take the dude seriously when the one thing he had going for him (the case) was spaffed up the wall.
They have two cases every single year. It’s not a travesty to the booking if they even just skipped MITB for a few years, as sometimes it’s relied on as a crutch, so I’m not concerned that the case was wasted (it’s a question if it even was wasted as it gave Theory a chance to do a lot more character work and be involved in a lot of major storylines with top guys when he’s arguably not even ready for that high of a spot on the card). As for whether Theory should be taken seriously moving forward, that’s all going to be in the follow up as to whether he is or is not. The cash-in failing is not going to make or break him, particularly as his character has always been as a bit of a goof anyway.
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