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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 13, 2022 18:35:32 GMT -5
Viking Raiders returning by beating up a bunch of minorities was unintentionally hilarious in a f***ed up way. Same energy: Wasn't that one right after Kalisto publicly shit-talked him? Gave it this whole uncomfortable, "Know your place," air.
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Post by krozor on Nov 13, 2022 18:41:52 GMT -5
The viking facepaint bit is actually just a coincidence; Logan wanted to do full blackface but Triple H told her no. "Blackface? That's my gimmick, go rip someone else off." "All right, Hunter, I will!"
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Post by metylerca on Nov 13, 2022 19:13:42 GMT -5
She saw the heat Piper got for vertically half blackface and thought the orientation of the paint was the issue.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 13, 2022 19:56:29 GMT -5
This is one of your very best I am just relieved to find out that a different Erik is the racist one to what I had thought. Long live Redbeard for passing the lowest bar My greatest fear is that the Erik Redbeard shirt gimmick takes a nosedive when he comes out in like a really openly racist band's shirt or something and my whole night is ruined? Like he keeps skirting the line with the Tyr shirt because a lot of people don't realize Tyr are kinda real messed up and being into Tyr isn't quite enough to flag you, but if he had like a Burzum shirt on for another AEW PPV pre-show guest appearance I think I'd have to leave the watch party.
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Post by knightboat on Nov 13, 2022 19:59:30 GMT -5
Remember when they took Blake and Murphy from never winning jobbers to NXT tag champs in 2 weeks and then people just hated objectively every second of their reign? That. Hey! The Dubstep Cowboys, Team Thick, later known unofficially as BAMF, had dozens of fans. Dozens! However, it was pretty obvious that they werenβt even trying with them, and they became a vehicle for Alexa and were subsequently dumped. I came to appreciate Blake and Murphy, but I was pissed when they won the titles. There was another jobber tag team I loved that I wanted pushed made up of Ty Dillinger and Jason Jordan. Wonder what happened to those guys. Anyways, racists suck and are an embarrassment to us Norwegians from Minnesota. We're the real Vikings.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 13, 2022 20:17:46 GMT -5
This is one of your very best I am just relieved to find out that a different Erik is the racist one to what I had thought. Long live Redbeard for passing the lowest bar My greatest fear is that the Erik Redbeard shirt gimmick takes a nosedive when he comes out in like a really openly racist band's shirt or something and my whole night is ruined? Like he keeps skirting the line with the Tyr shirt because a lot of people don't realize Tyr are kinda real messed up and being into Tyr isn't quite enough to flag you, but if he had like a Burzum shirt on for another AEW PPV pre-show guest appearance I think I'd have to leave the watch party. He comes out in a Trapt shirt and just ruins everything.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 13, 2022 20:22:16 GMT -5
My greatest fear is that the Erik Redbeard shirt gimmick takes a nosedive when he comes out in like a really openly racist band's shirt or something and my whole night is ruined? Like he keeps skirting the line with the Tyr shirt because a lot of people don't realize Tyr are kinda real messed up and being into Tyr isn't quite enough to flag you, but if he had like a Burzum shirt on for another AEW PPV pre-show guest appearance I think I'd have to leave the watch party. He comes out in a Trapt shirt and just ruins everything. God I'd actually rather he wear the nazi black metal band shirt than f***ing Trapt
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Post by Dub H on Nov 13, 2022 20:49:58 GMT -5
No joke I completely even forgot that Alexa managed Blake and Murphy
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2022 23:10:56 GMT -5
My greatest fear is that the Erik Redbeard shirt gimmick takes a nosedive when he comes out in like a really openly racist band's shirt or something and my whole night is ruined? Like he keeps skirting the line with the Tyr shirt because a lot of people don't realize Tyr are kinda real messed up and being into Tyr isn't quite enough to flag you, but if he had like a Burzum shirt on for another AEW PPV pre-show guest appearance I think I'd have to leave the watch party. He comes out in a Trapt shirt and just ruins everything. I think the only trapt song I like is headstrong and that was mostly because of almost every AMV from 00s uses that song.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Nov 13, 2022 23:50:02 GMT -5
He comes out in a Trapt shirt and just ruins everything. I think the only trapt song I like is headstrong and that was mostly because of almost every AMV from 00s uses that song. it was alos like the ONLY song in Heroes of Wrestling... Showdown I Want to say.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Nov 13, 2022 23:54:28 GMT -5
This is one of your very best I am just relieved to find out that a different Erik is the racist one to what I had thought. Long live Redbeard for passing the lowest bar My greatest fear is that the Erik Redbeard shirt gimmick takes a nosedive when he comes out in like a really openly racist band's shirt or something and my whole night is ruined? Like he keeps skirting the line with the Tyr shirt because a lot of people don't realize Tyr are kinda real messed up and being into Tyr isn't quite enough to flag you, but if he had like a Burzum shirt on for another AEW PPV pre-show guest appearance I think I'd have to leave the watch party. Unless something came up that I missed, Tyr are openly opposed to racism. Unless we're talking a different band named Tyr instead of the folk band from the Faroe Islands.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 14, 2022 0:01:20 GMT -5
My greatest fear is that the Erik Redbeard shirt gimmick takes a nosedive when he comes out in like a really openly racist band's shirt or something and my whole night is ruined? Like he keeps skirting the line with the Tyr shirt because a lot of people don't realize Tyr are kinda real messed up and being into Tyr isn't quite enough to flag you, but if he had like a Burzum shirt on for another AEW PPV pre-show guest appearance I think I'd have to leave the watch party. Unless something came up that I missed, Tyr are openly opposed to racism. Unless we're talking a different band named Tyr instead of the folk band from the Faroe Islands. ... Shit, have they? Damn have I written Tyr off this whole time over f***ing--f***. Admittedly I like hard tuned them out about 15 years ago over claims I was seeing but now I feel like the giantest dumbass after doing some googling. It's very possible I conflated some rumblings with a lot of stuff about bands I bounced off of hard a lot of years ago, because 17 year old me got some real ugly reality checks about a lot of bands and stuff was bound to get crossed I guess.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Nov 14, 2022 0:07:02 GMT -5
Unless something came up that I missed, Tyr are openly opposed to racism. Unless we're talking a different band named Tyr instead of the folk band from the Faroe Islands. ... Shit, have they? Damn have I written Tyr off this whole time over f***ing--f***. Admittedly I like hard tuned them out about 15 years ago over claims I was seeing but now I feel like the giantest dumbass after doing some googling. It's very possible I conflated some rumblings with a lot of stuff about bands I bounced off of hard a lot of years ago, because 17 year old me got some real ugly reality checks about a lot of bands and stuff was bound to get crossed I guess. Well, I don't know about anything from 15 years ago but as far as the last several years they've been open. Now, there ARE bands that do slip past that I'm aware of that are pretty popular but that discussion would sidetrack the thread.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 14, 2022 0:12:25 GMT -5
... Shit, have they? Damn have I written Tyr off this whole time over f***ing--f***. Admittedly I like hard tuned them out about 15 years ago over claims I was seeing but now I feel like the giantest dumbass after doing some googling. It's very possible I conflated some rumblings with a lot of stuff about bands I bounced off of hard a lot of years ago, because 17 year old me got some real ugly reality checks about a lot of bands and stuff was bound to get crossed I guess. Well, I don't know about anything from 15 years ago but as far as the last several years they've been open. Now, there ARE bands that do slip past that I'm aware of that are pretty popular but that discussion would sidetrack the thread. Yeah, it's very possible they're more vocal now abotu stuff in ways that doesn't make rumblings from many years ago true, but did kind of let them float around for a good while. In my defense I do remember seeing them live at Paganstfest 2008 and some very definitely white supremacist guys my group was near referring to them as "our band" with some other comments that uh. Really set off some shit alarms and made me do a lot of googling into the late '00s internet. But it's very good to hear that they've now come out to tell the nazis to f*** off, sad I've been keeping the "Yeah keep away from there" line on them for so long since more bands ought to come out and say that sort of thing. f***ed that they've got to now, but the problems have been in the scene for decades.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 14, 2022 3:11:18 GMT -5
This is one of your very best I am just relieved to find out that a different Erik is the racist one to what I had thought. Long live Redbeard for passing the lowest bar My greatest fear is that the Erik Redbeard shirt gimmick takes a nosedive when he comes out in like a really openly racist band's shirt or something and my whole night is ruined? Like he keeps skirting the line with the Tyr shirt because a lot of people don't realize Tyr are kinda real messed up and being into Tyr isn't quite enough to flag you, but if he had like a Burzum shirt on for another AEW PPV pre-show guest appearance I think I'd have to leave the watch party. It's a complicated one because Pantera are still considered broadly fine, for example, and they may not vocally be nazis but there are... issues
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 14, 2022 3:35:03 GMT -5
My greatest fear is that the Erik Redbeard shirt gimmick takes a nosedive when he comes out in like a really openly racist band's shirt or something and my whole night is ruined? Like he keeps skirting the line with the Tyr shirt because a lot of people don't realize Tyr are kinda real messed up and being into Tyr isn't quite enough to flag you, but if he had like a Burzum shirt on for another AEW PPV pre-show guest appearance I think I'd have to leave the watch party. It's a complicated one because Pantera are still considered broadly fine, for example, and they may not vocally be nazis but there are... issues Yeah. Phil Anselmo there's zero doubt and most people generally are pretty firm in agreement about that, it's just an issue of people still really wanting to hold onto Pantera as a whole or offload the stuff onto just Anselmo because it was his comments alone. Which I get. You can't just call anyone into Pantera a racist and if I want to hear rants about 'separating art from artist' I'd rather hear it in defense of better art than the band that put out Walk. By contrast though, there's bands where if you slap on one of their shirts, you f***ing know. You just know because there's no way they don't know because it's in the goddamn music and it's in the entire story of the band and there's no escaping that. But you know because you know the band and it's easy to slide under the radar around people who don't know. That's always the fear.
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Post by schma on Nov 14, 2022 3:35:43 GMT -5
This makes me feel that I should really take a closer look at the metal bands I enjoy. Thankfully I'm not really familiar with the few examples thrown out here and the people who have put me onto various bands are definitely not the white supremacist type. Still, I should probably do some homework. The fact that that's necessary makes me a bit sad.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 14, 2022 3:51:19 GMT -5
This makes me feel that I should really take a closer look at the metal bands I enjoy. Thankfully I'm not really familiar with the few examples thrown out here and the people who have put me onto various bands are definitely not the white supremacist type. Still, I should probably do some homework. The fact that that's necessary makes me a bit sad. It sucks a lot! For what it's worth though depending on the genres of metal you're into it may be way less of an issue; black metal, folk metal, and anything with a pagan sheen are places you gotta be kinda wary about, which is kinda where a lot of the focus gets pulled in here given Sarah Logan's whole viking thing. Obviously any musical genre is gonna run the risk of there being creepoids and racists around and plenty of whom don't even really let their music show that fact, but metal, like punk before it, definitely has its share of contention.
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Post by schma on Nov 14, 2022 4:23:26 GMT -5
This makes me feel that I should really take a closer look at the metal bands I enjoy. Thankfully I'm not really familiar with the few examples thrown out here and the people who have put me onto various bands are definitely not the white supremacist type. Still, I should probably do some homework. The fact that that's necessary makes me a bit sad. It sucks a lot! For what it's worth though depending on the genres of metal you're into it may be way less of an issue; black metal, folk metal, and anything with a pagan sheen are places you gotta be kinda wary about, which is kinda where a lot of the focus gets pulled in here given Sarah Logan's whole viking thing. Obviously any musical genre is gonna run the risk of there being creepoids and racists around and plenty of whom don't even really let their music show that fact, but metal, like punk before it, definitely has its share of contention. I tend towards power and symphonic with a heavy dose of the classics. That said if someone's goes hey check out this metal song I'll give it a listen for sure. I'm just not a fan of the guttural growls that you find in a lot of the genres.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 14, 2022 5:21:45 GMT -5
It sucks a lot! For what it's worth though depending on the genres of metal you're into it may be way less of an issue; black metal, folk metal, and anything with a pagan sheen are places you gotta be kinda wary about, which is kinda where a lot of the focus gets pulled in here given Sarah Logan's whole viking thing. Obviously any musical genre is gonna run the risk of there being creepoids and racists around and plenty of whom don't even really let their music show that fact, but metal, like punk before it, definitely has its share of contention. I tend towards power and symphonic with a heavy dose of the classics. That said if someone's goes hey check out this metal song I'll give it a listen for sure. I'm just not a fan of the guttural growls that you find in a lot of the genres. Broadly demographically speaking then you're in largely safe territory as far as I know but it is always worth looking it up
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