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Post by cornettesracket on Nov 12, 2022 20:53:06 GMT -5
Four years ago today on November 12th, 2018, Becky lynch got bloodied because Nia Jax was a walking disaster in the ring and injured Becky lynch during a raw ending brawl which should have been standard where no one gets hurt and they build to survivor series. credit to Becky while concussed to be able to create this image which imo was an austin level moment where she went to top of the women’s division, which culminated in her winning both titles at mania next year.
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Post by Spiderf 4 on Nov 12, 2022 20:55:29 GMT -5
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Post by bob on Nov 12, 2022 21:02:40 GMT -5
that and MY HOLE!!!!!!!! is Nia's legacy
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Post by Fade on Nov 12, 2022 22:21:07 GMT -5
Incredible moment I still think back upon often. Such a defining character moment. Becky’s alway taken the ball and ran with it.
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Post by theironyuppie on Nov 12, 2022 22:33:57 GMT -5
One of the most fateful botches in wrestling history, but Becky absolutely made the most of the moment. You get an idea of just how important it was and how much it added to the segment from WWE's YT video presenting an oddly edited version without showing 'Bloody Becky' whatsoever.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 13, 2022 0:49:02 GMT -5
It really showed how leery they are of the whole blood thing (except when they aren’t) that they weren’t falling over themselves to monetise this.
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Post by schma on Nov 13, 2022 6:34:10 GMT -5
One of the most fateful botches in wrestling history, but Becky absolutely made the most of the moment. You get an idea of just how important it was and how much it added to the segment from WWE's YT video presenting an oddly edited version without showing 'Bloody Becky' whatsoever.
It's amazing how much that editing completely neuters that entire segment. We talk about the quick cuts being terrible and they are but, here was really a masterclass in how to show absolutely nothing while so much is going on. I saw the original segment and I nearly had no idea what was going on there. Also, at least show Becky in black and white or something. Her defiant with the blood on her face was what elevated that segment beyond just a standard oh right, we're suppose to do brand warfare again because reasons.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Nov 13, 2022 7:24:09 GMT -5
Was there a plan for her if she made it to Survivor Series? I get the sense they were just going to feed her to Ronda and try let the buzz fizzle out.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Nov 13, 2022 8:15:05 GMT -5
One of the most fateful botches in wrestling history, but Becky absolutely made the most of the moment. You get an idea of just how important it was and how much it added to the segment from WWE's YT video presenting an oddly edited version without showing 'Bloody Becky' whatsoever.
It's amazing how much that editing completely neuters that entire segment. We talk about the quick cuts being terrible and they are but, here was really a masterclass in how to show absolutely nothing while so much is going on. I saw the original segment and I nearly had no idea what was going on there. Also, at least show Becky in black and white or something. Her defiant with the blood on her face was what elevated that segment beyond just a standard oh right, we're suppose to do brand warfare again because reasons. I get that they're totally different companies with different standards and audiences so it's not a complaint towards WWE but Bloody Becky really could have been as famous as Bloody Britt
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Post by cornettesracket on Nov 13, 2022 8:19:55 GMT -5
Was there a plan for her if she made it to Survivor Series? I get the sense they were just going to feed her to Ronda and try let the buzz fizzle out. I’ve no idea what the plan was but I’m sure there was one given that it was six days away. But I wasn’t looking forward to her match with Ronda because Becky had built up some steam after turning on Charlotte at summerslam(which got a HUGE pop) and had gotten to a good place with some momentum and I was worried she’d lose to Ronda and it would take the shine off her run.
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Post by schma on Nov 13, 2022 9:01:56 GMT -5
Was there a plan for her if she made it to Survivor Series? I get the sense they were just going to feed her to Ronda and try let the buzz fizzle out. My understanding was that the plan had been Ronda vs Chalotte at mania. Had Becky been able to face Ronda she would have taken the loss. It's hard to say where things would go from there though.if she still had the feud with Charlotte she might have been in that match at mania, but it might have been as the third woman. Alternately, losing to Ronda might have taken the steam out of her sails. That said, Becky had a tremendous amount of good will towards her. They flat out rejected her turning heel at summerslam to the point where wwe actually changed direction only a week or two later. I was at a Toronto show very shortly after that summerslam and the applause when Becky ran in and started beating down Charlotte was huge. I actually felt bad for Charlotte. This is my long winded way of saying without bloody Becky she still gets over big. However, I don't think she reaches the most popular wrestler in the world tier. The was a point between this event and mania where she was genuinely the biggest wrestler in the world. Edited to clarify names. Was on mobile when I typed this.
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Post by theironyuppie on Nov 13, 2022 11:40:08 GMT -5
Was there a plan for her if she made it to Survivor Series? I get the sense they were just going to feed her to Ronda and try let the buzz fizzle out. My understanding was that the plan had been Ronda vs Chalotte at mania. Had Becky been able to face Ronda she would have taken the loss. It's hard to say where things would go from there though.if she still had the feud with Charlotte she might have been in that match at mania, but it might have been as the third woman. Alternately, losing to Ronda might have taken the steam out of her sails. That said, Becky had a tremendous amount of good will towards Becky. They flat out rejected her turning heel at summerslam to the point where wwe actually changed direction only a week or two later. I was at a Toronto show very shortly after that summerslam and the applause when Becky ran in and started beating down Becky was huge. I actually felt bad for Charlotte. This is my long winded way of saying without bloody Becky she still gets over big. However, I don't think she reaches the most popular wrestler in the world tier. The was a point between this event and mania where she was genuinely the biggest wrestler in the world.
Yeah, my guess is that in a world where that punch never happens, the intended storyline was that Becky loses to Ronda at Survivor Series, while Charlotte lays low before winning the Rumble. At the time of the injury, she was still doing Mixed Match Challenge, and they were running a 'crisis of confidence' storyline after losing so comprehensively to Becky. In this scenario, Becky probably defends the SD women's title at Mania against Asuka while Charlotte/Ronda main-event [this was actually being discussed and rumoured basically as soon as WM 34 was done, after they were in the two most notable matches of the show], though it's up to question whether fans would have accepted it given how much they were behind Becky even before the punch elevated her further.
This is also why it's amusing that so much of the online discourse is based around the idea of Charlotte being 'added' to the match--it's what happened on-screen, but the reality it was Becky who was (understandably mind you) added.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Nov 13, 2022 12:14:14 GMT -5
They flat out rejected her turning heel at summerslam to the point where wwe actually changed direction only a week or two later. I was at a Toronto show very shortly after that summerslam and the applause when Becky ran in and started beating down Becky was huge. I actually felt bad for Charlotte. This is my long winded way of saying without bloody Becky she still gets over big. However, I don't think she reaches the most popular wrestler in the world tier. The was a point between this event and mania where she was genuinely the biggest wrestler in the world. They took more than a week or two to decide to make her face. For instance that Cutting Edge segment with Edge and Becky was on October 16, a whole 2 months after Summerslam, and that late in the game they were still trying to make her a heel. Edge said on his podcast that before he went to the ring he was told to go out and do everything in his power to get Becky booed so that Charlotte would get cheered when she interrupted and attacked Becky. He admitted he failed though because fans just booed him when he started questioning Becky and talking down to her. Even when she made fun of his broken neck not only did the crowd not boo her but they loved it.
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Post by J is Justice on Nov 13, 2022 12:42:18 GMT -5
That said, Becky had a tremendous amount of good will towards Becky.
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Post by pinja on Nov 13, 2022 13:27:50 GMT -5
Backy Lunch with the star making performance.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 13, 2022 15:17:31 GMT -5
My understanding was that the plan had been Ronda vs Chalotte at mania. Had Becky been able to face Ronda she would have taken the loss. It's hard to say where things would go from there though.if she still had the feud with Charlotte she might have been in that match at mania, but it might have been as the third woman. Alternately, losing to Ronda might have taken the steam out of her sails. That said, Becky had a tremendous amount of good will towards Becky. They flat out rejected her turning heel at summerslam to the point where wwe actually changed direction only a week or two later. I was at a Toronto show very shortly after that summerslam and the applause when Becky ran in and started beating down Becky was huge. I actually felt bad for Charlotte. This is my long winded way of saying without bloody Becky she still gets over big. However, I don't think she reaches the most popular wrestler in the world tier. The was a point between this event and mania where she was genuinely the biggest wrestler in the world. Yeah, my guess is that in a world where that punch never happens, the intended storyline was that Becky loses to Ronda at Survivor Series, while Charlotte lays low before winning the Rumble. At the time of the injury, she was still doing Mixed Match Challenge, and they were running a 'crisis of confidence' storyline after losing so comprehensively to Becky. In this scenario, Becky probably defends the SD women's title at Mania against Asuka while Charlotte/Ronda main-event [this was actually being discussed and rumoured basically as soon as WM 34 was done, after they were in the two most notable matches of the show], though it's up to question whether fans would have accepted it given how much they were behind Becky even before the punch elevated her further.
This is also why it's amusing that so much of the online discourse is based around the idea of Charlotte being 'added' to the match--it's what happened on-screen, but the reality it was Becky who was (understandably mind you) added.
This is how I see it playing out too. I guess maybe they would've protected Becky with a DQ against Ronda but no way was she beating her. Becky against Asuka is likely what they would've done for the SD Title at Mania. Although I wouldn't rule out Charlotte beating Becky beforehand and them making her match against Ronda a title unification match. Would've been interesting to see how that Charlotte confidence crisis storyline would've played out. Looked they were planning on having her feud with Mandy of all people before the punch happened. I'm curious what they would've done as for a storyline like to work Charlotte would have to lose a decent bit to give a reason why she was doubting herself. However she's someone who they like to book strong especially against people lower then her on the totem pole (of the 4HW she's done the least amount of jobs for non main event women by far). Like I have a tough time seeing Charlotte put over Mandy or other women with a similar position on the card.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Nov 13, 2022 16:05:44 GMT -5
Becky became a legend the moment she was born, but that was an iconic segment for sure!
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Nov 13, 2022 16:06:53 GMT -5
Backy Lunch with the star making performance. Somebody needs to photoshop Becky's head on Raquel's body.
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Post by theironyuppie on Nov 13, 2022 23:03:24 GMT -5
Yeah, my guess is that in a world where that punch never happens, the intended storyline was that Becky loses to Ronda at Survivor Series, while Charlotte lays low before winning the Rumble. At the time of the injury, she was still doing Mixed Match Challenge, and they were running a 'crisis of confidence' storyline after losing so comprehensively to Becky. In this scenario, Becky probably defends the SD women's title at Mania against Asuka while Charlotte/Ronda main-event [this was actually being discussed and rumoured basically as soon as WM 34 was done, after they were in the two most notable matches of the show], though it's up to question whether fans would have accepted it given how much they were behind Becky even before the punch elevated her further.
This is also why it's amusing that so much of the online discourse is based around the idea of Charlotte being 'added' to the match--it's what happened on-screen, but the reality it was Becky who was (understandably mind you) added.
This is how I see it playing out too. I guess maybe they would've protected Becky with a DQ against Ronda but no way was she beating her. Becky against Asuka is likely what they would've done for the SD Title at Mania. Although I wouldn't rule out Charlotte beating Becky beforehand and them making her match against Ronda a title unification match. Would've been interesting to see how that Charlotte confidence crisis storyline would've played out. Looked they were planning on having her feud with Mandy of all people before the punch happened. I'm curious what they would've done as for a storyline like to work Charlotte would have to lose a decent bit to give a reason why she was doubting herself. However she's someone who they like to book strong especially against people lower then her on the totem pole (of the 4HW she's done the least amount of jobs for non main event women by far). Like I have a tough time seeing Charlotte put over Mandy or other women with a similar position on the card.
Yeah, it's very difficult to guess because of how quickly it got cut off by events. I would guess she was going to hesitantly join the SD women's team for Survivor Series, but it's hard to say how the match would have gone, because in this scenario you don't have Vince trying to capitalise on Nia's heat by having her go sole survivor. My assumption is that she would have been in the Mixed Match Challenge final at TLC, especially as that tournament was letting Charlotte show an endearing goofy side. (It's also funny in hindsight that while fans hated her against Becky, they were still cheering her on against Naomi/Asuka etc: on MMC, sometimes on the same night).
And yes on Charlotte not taking many losses, but she did lose clean twice to Becky on Smackdown, once in 2017 and once in the build to the 2018 MITB.
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Post by schma on Nov 13, 2022 23:28:53 GMT -5
That said, Becky had a tremendous amount of good will towards Becky. I was on mobile when I wrote this. I just glanced at the post and dear God is some of the grammar in it dire.
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