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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 19:50:19 GMT -5
For a while this year, people were bringing up the quantity of films starring aged actors who show up, don't do anything, leave yet take up around 90% of the budget. Bruce Willis was the focus, but we've also had Mel Gibson, Steven Seagal (who started this thing, really), and Nicolas Cage flicks that get churned out by the barrel.
However, I've been more curious about the other side of the equation; the no-name actors who do the bulk of the filming, probably have to do their own stunts, and have their names crushed at the bottom of film credits. What exactly entails them to want to join these projects? The director clearly has a vision of the film where the star actor (the geezer) is the focus in order to sell these to streaming services and international markets, your pay is probably pathetic, and it seems like there is a growing blacklist of directors and companies that acting guilds are trying to have people avoid working with because of these types of films. Sure, there's the "I worked with this guy" thing you could brag about, but many times, they just do it in post where you weren't even in the same universe during production.
Naturally, when a story is written about these stupid movies, they focus on the actor or the director but right now I want to know how the sausage is being made.
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Post by Fade on Nov 22, 2022 21:01:03 GMT -5
For a while this year, people were bringing up the quantity of films starring aged actors who show up, don't do anything, leave yet take up around 90% of the budget. Bruce Willis was the focus, but we've also had Mel Gibson, Steven Seagal (who started this thing, really), and Nicolas Cage flicks that get churned out by the barrel. However, I've been more curious about the other side of the equation; the no-name actors who do the bulk of the filming, probably have to do their own stunts, and have their names crushed at the bottom of film credits. What exactly entails them to want to join these projects? The director clearly has a vision of the film where the star actor (the geezer) is the focus in order to sell these to streaming services and international markets, your pay is probably pathetic, and it seems like there is a growing blacklist of directors and companies that acting guilds are trying to have people avoid working with because of these types of films. Sure, there's the "I worked with this guy" thing you could brag about, but many times, they just do it in post where you weren't even in the same universe during production. Naturally, when a story is written about these stupid movies, they focus on the actor or the director but right now I want to know how the sausage is being made. Money.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 22:07:37 GMT -5
For a while this year, people were bringing up the quantity of films starring aged actors who show up, don't do anything, leave yet take up around 90% of the budget. Bruce Willis was the focus, but we've also had Mel Gibson, Steven Seagal (who started this thing, really), and Nicolas Cage flicks that get churned out by the barrel. However, I've been more curious about the other side of the equation; the no-name actors who do the bulk of the filming, probably have to do their own stunts, and have their names crushed at the bottom of film credits. What exactly entails them to want to join these projects? The director clearly has a vision of the film where the star actor (the geezer) is the focus in order to sell these to streaming services and international markets, your pay is probably pathetic, and it seems like there is a growing blacklist of directors and companies that acting guilds are trying to have people avoid working with because of these types of films. Sure, there's the "I worked with this guy" thing you could brag about, but many times, they just do it in post where you weren't even in the same universe during production. Naturally, when a story is written about these stupid movies, they focus on the actor or the director but right now I want to know how the sausage is being made. Money. Obviously, money. But, uh... as I said, all the money goes to the former A-list star.
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Post by Fade on Nov 22, 2022 22:14:19 GMT -5
Obviously, money. But, uh... as I said, all the money goes to the former A-list star. They get paid whatever they get paid still. I guess “making connections” incentivizes some.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Nov 22, 2022 22:16:30 GMT -5
Obviously, money. But, uh... as I said, all the money goes to the former A-list star. They'd still get paid something, this isn't slave labor. Although I'd guess a better reason would be experience. Any chance to show your skills and get your name out there. It's like asking why a young wrestler just out of their training camp would work a show in a barn in the middle of nowhere in front of twenty people. To hone your skills, to get noticed, to get your name out there. You have to start small and work your way up.
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