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Post by Fade on Nov 26, 2022 12:53:54 GMT -5
It was a really well done segment and turn, although it's kinda baffling for him to do it to join the only faction in AEW with less credibility than the Dark Order, the last struggling remnants of the HFO via Andrade. I’m not even kidding but do they have a name?
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Post by lionheart21 on Nov 26, 2022 13:20:56 GMT -5
It was a really well done segment and turn, although it's kinda baffling for him to do it to join the only faction in AEW with less credibility than the Dark Order, the last struggling remnants of the HFO via Andrade. I’m not even kidding but do they have a name? La Faccion Ingobernable
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Post by Dub H on Nov 26, 2022 13:21:51 GMT -5
Whatever they are called now, the HFO has been better without Andrade actually.
And RUSH is actually making things happen.
Point is, RUSH is great
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Nov 26, 2022 13:23:14 GMT -5
It was a really well done segment and turn, although it's kinda baffling for him to do it to join the only faction in AEW with less credibility than the Dark Order, the last struggling remnants of the HFO via Andrade. I’m not even kidding but do they have a name? La Faccion Ingobernables I believe, or at least that’s what they were calling Rush and El Idolo
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Post by Bo Rida on Nov 26, 2022 15:00:16 GMT -5
-1 holding his mask was great. Very comic book feel to it.
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Post by bob on Nov 26, 2022 15:09:46 GMT -5
Especially with 10 being one of -1's in kayfabe and out of kayfabe favorite wrestlers. His hero used his father's finisher to destroy the other members of the cult his adopted extended family his father created. Then he threw the mask in the face of the kid who idolized him. That's some f***ing evil.
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Post by y4j1981 on Nov 26, 2022 19:45:32 GMT -5
I may be totally wrong but I originally thought they brought in Rush as a favor to Andrade since they used to be tag partners. But if they did I just find it funny that Andrade is basically out and they are pushing Rush better without him
I get the feeling if Andrade was still around, Rush would be in the "quite hitman tough guy" role & really wouldn't get a chance to stand out like he is now
Or they could have brought him in cause he was RoH before Tony bought it.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 26, 2022 19:49:06 GMT -5
I don't know if RUSH was brought in specifically as a favor to Andrade or not, but he has a history with ROH and is just a uniquely special talent even if he is a bit of a headcase at times.
His brother Dragon Lee is really good, too.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Nov 26, 2022 21:11:16 GMT -5
Honestly, if there's one thing I want to see out of this feud, it's that I want the Dark Order to get that evil edge back. Preston made it personal. Sure, Anna Jay and Alan Angels left, but Anna didn't really do anything to the group and nobody liked Alan anyway. But Preston was Brodie's chosen one. He was Negative 1's "big brother". And he threw all that back in their faces, while ripping Uno's mask. Give Uno back that mob boss mentality he had in the company's beginning. Bring back the Creepers and have them stalk Preston, or jump AFO members before their matches. Bring Grayson back on a full-time basis and have him, Silver and Reynolds wreck fools. Remind people why the Dark Order were considered a threat in the first place. And most importantly, make Preston Vance abundantly aware that he is not safe, that he made the worst mistake of his life, and that he's going to pay for that mistake in blood. Losing Grayson is huge for the DO, because not only was he their best worker (and one of the best workers in the company), his presence made Evil Uno more intimidating. Uno alone doesn't seem powerful, but it's a huge jump up to the sense people get of Uno/Greyson as a pair.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Nov 27, 2022 9:11:06 GMT -5
best damn tradesman on the floor!
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Nov 27, 2022 9:33:10 GMT -5
Honestly, if there's one thing I want to see out of this feud, it's that I want the Dark Order to get that evil edge back. Preston made it personal. Sure, Anna Jay and Alan Angels left, but Anna didn't really do anything to the group and nobody liked Alan anyway. But Preston was Brodie's chosen one. He was Negative 1's "big brother". And he threw all that back in their faces, while ripping Uno's mask. Give Uno back that mob boss mentality he had in the company's beginning. Bring back the Creepers and have them stalk Preston, or jump AFO members before their matches. Bring Grayson back on a full-time basis and have him, Silver and Reynolds wreck fools. Remind people why the Dark Order were considered a threat in the first place. And most importantly, make Preston Vance abundantly aware that he is not safe, that he made the worst mistake of his life, and that he's going to pay for that mistake in blood. Losing Grayson is huge for the DO, because not only was he their best worker (and one of the best workers in the company), his presence made Evil Uno more intimidating. Uno alone doesn't seem powerful, but it's a huge jump up to the sense people get of Uno/Greyson as a pair. Honestly, at this point I kinda see Uno as more of a manager that wrestles sometimes. I can't explain it, but as wrestler, he comes across a bit, I dunno, cheap, maybe it's his gear, how he's been booked for so long but I prefer him with the mask in a suit talking, there he has more presence to me.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Nov 27, 2022 17:00:27 GMT -5
I mean the turn itself was well done but he’s turning on a faction that no one really gives a s*** about and hasn’t for a long time (And I considered myself a big fan of them a few months after they debuted) to a faction that no one has ever given a s*** about
So great turn but if a great turn is executed in a forest of s***, does it make a sound (I may have mixed up some metaphors here)
Although if Rush & Preston ditch Butcher & Blade since they aren’t particular interesting and also it gets rid of the last of the HFO/AFO and just build on la facion then it might pick up in terms of interest
Also that segment the DO did a few months ago about going nowhere has aged particularly well
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Post by I'm A Pop Sensation on Nov 28, 2022 13:02:05 GMT -5
So The Dark Order has now officially become the..... Dork Order?
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Nov 28, 2022 14:29:47 GMT -5
Although if Rush & Preston ditch Butcher & Blade since they aren’t particular interesting and also it gets rid of the last of the HFO/AFO and just build on la facion then it might pick up in terms of interest Real talk if this company can't get a faction consisting of Rush, Preston, Butcher, and Blade over, they're absolutely pathetic. It's your classic charismatic leader / powerful young gun / gritty enforcer team lineup. It's always really perplexing to me when people look workers clearly stalled by obvious bad booking and still doggedly insist the problem is the workers themselves.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Nov 28, 2022 14:38:47 GMT -5
Although if Rush & Preston ditch Butcher & Blade since they aren’t particular interesting and also it gets rid of the last of the HFO/AFO and just build on la facion then it might pick up in terms of interest Real talk if this company can't get a faction consisting of Rush, Preston, Butcher, and Blade over, they're absolutely pathetic. It's your classic charismatic leader / powerful young gun / gritty enforcer team lineup. It's always really perplexing to me when people look workers clearly stalled by obvious bad booking and still doggedly insist the problem is the workers themselves. I think this is a case where moving Butcher and Blade elsewhere is useful just because their continuity from Hardy to Andrade to Rush has specifically diminished them and whoever they're associated with. I agree with you, but Butcher and Blade need the fresh start as well.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 15:11:43 GMT -5
I really hope Negative 1 chooses a replacement hoss to take Preston's place, and we eventually see Preston get manhandled by said new hoss. I don't see Negative 1 just letting this slide. Wardlow is going to kick American Harry Kane’s arse! Also if Preston Vance changes his name to Preston North End he will be Wade Barrett’s favourite new wrestler.
"Uncle Tony gave me 50k for my birthday this year and said I could give it to Joe to choke you out until you crap yourself in the middle of the ring."
Seriously, though, -1 sold the heartbroken thing perfectly, and Vance's heel turn would have had less going for it without that scene.
I don't know if he'll grow up to have the athletic ability to be a professional wrestler (I hope he does, if that's what he wants to do), but he's not even a teenager and understands the importance of selling and psychology really well already.
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Post by Dang! on Nov 28, 2022 16:09:39 GMT -5
I still can't get over Uno being bald. That's messing me up. I just assumed Stu being bald naturally implied his best friend had hair. I kinda assumed that everyone wearing a mask is bald underneath the mask unless there's hair looking out somewhere. I was surprised that Vance had hair.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Nov 28, 2022 16:25:43 GMT -5
Although if Rush & Preston ditch Butcher & Blade since they aren’t particular interesting and also it gets rid of the last of the HFO/AFO and just build on la facion then it might pick up in terms of interest Real talk if this company can't get a faction consisting of Rush, Preston, Butcher, and Blade over, they're absolutely pathetic. It's your classic charismatic leader / powerful young gun / gritty enforcer team lineup. It's always really perplexing to me when people look workers clearly stalled by obvious bad booking and still doggedly insist the problem is the workers themselves. Honestly they need to drop the gimmick of loser has to join faction crap with them. Just cut Private Party/Matt Hardy and stick with these four. Get rid of the stink of the HFO/AFO crap.
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Post by Dub H on Nov 28, 2022 17:39:15 GMT -5
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Post by Lupin the Third on Nov 29, 2022 11:17:14 GMT -5
We are out of time. Preston Vance, you can go STRAIGHT TO HELL. We're out of time!! STRAIGHT. TO. HELL!!
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