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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Dec 1, 2022 15:57:45 GMT -5
That One Man Gang US Title win was so weird and out of nowhere. What makes it more strange is that according to him he wasn't even under contract during that run. He was also among one of the final guys in the ring in the World War 3 battle royal. Strange that they would do these things with him when he wasn't even signed. The OMG Title Run wasn't suppose to happen as he won by accident and they then restarted the match with Kensuke Sasaki retaining. Then Bischoff said screw it and kept the original finish. It was supposed to happen. According to Gang they were having difficulty getting Sasaki to agree to losing. In Sasaki's defense they were taping the match the night of Starrcade 1995 right after the PPV was over and he had also just lost to Sting in the last match of the World Cup Best of Seven thing. So I'm guessing that he felt losing two matches in the same night in front of the same audience would kind of make him look like a jabronie. Sasaki was another who wasn't under contract with WCW so I guess they just wanted to get the belt off him while they had him there. As a result they came with the idea to have Gang pin him but the ref making a planned mistake where he counted Sasaki down despite one of his shoulders being up. At this point they would stop rolling tape. Then for the live audience another ref would come out and tell the ref of his mistake and restart the match with Sasaki then going over. None of this aired. As a result they could just show the part with Gang pinning Sasaki so they could recognize Gang as the new champion on TV but at the same time appease Sasaki in that he wouldn't be jobbing twice in front of the same live audience. |
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Dec 1, 2022 16:40:35 GMT -5
That One Man Gang US Title win was so weird and out of nowhere. What makes it more strange is that according to him he wasn't even under contract during that run. He was also among one of the final guys in the ring in the World War 3 battle royal. Strange that they would do these things with him when he wasn't even signed. I was shocked recently to find out he was with WCW up until January or February. I found out when I saw a match with he and Hogan from Las Vegas in early 96 and read the interview where he talked with Bischoff. That's SO WCW...either sign a guy to an insane multi year contract and don't use him or use a guy and not have him signed. I believe George Gray but can't help but wonder if his past came back to haunt him in not being signed. He left WWF in 90 despite being advertised for a PPV and he either left or was fired from WCW in 91 for refusing to lose clean to PN News (I love George's accent when saying "PN News"). Like it or not News was being put over as the new thing while Gang had already lost his feud to El Gigante. Eric was in WCW in 91 so may have remembered that issue. I thought for sure Gang's last appearance was in December 96 losing the belt to Konnan but now I don't remember if he won or lost it from Konnan. I like everything George did as Gang and Akeem but for a guy who was a true fan, he didn't make the best decisions for his career. He won it from Kensuki Sasaki and lost it to Konnan. Then lost again to Konnan at the Superbrawl VI PPV and then he was pretty much done after that. According to him he left because Bischoff wouldn't sign him to a contract and then they just stopped booking him. He was on a per appearance deal and some of the other wrestlers were telling him he needed to go talk to Eric as pretty much everyone was under contract. Bischoff got real defensive about it for some reason saying "how they don't do business like that" even though almost everyone was on guarantees. Just a weird situation around. First putting a belt on him without a contract especially with as you mentioned his history of taking his ball and going home if he wasn't happy and then simply not just signing him to a contract even though were apparently doing it for everyone else. I don't think that it be that big of a deal to sign him to a small one or two year especially since it seems like they were willing to push him with the US Title win and the strong World War 3 showing. Going by his interviews he doesn't seem like someone who would drive a hard bargain and even in one I remember himself admitting that he was a bit apprehensive about going to talk to Bischoff to begin with as he wasn't a good negotiator. |
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Post by XIII on Dec 1, 2022 16:43:47 GMT -5
Kevin Sullivan was around WCW forever sometimes as the booker and all I ever remember him winning was the tag titles with Cactus Jack.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 1, 2022 16:55:04 GMT -5
I wouldn’t call it barely, but the fact that it took Sami 4 years on the main roster to win a title blows me
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 1, 2022 17:04:56 GMT -5
Jimmy Wang Yang never winning the Cruiserweight title despite being a fun character with the crowds. Especially since he was at his peak at the period of time when Helms held it for an absolute eternity while doing jack shit with it because he was feuding with Matt Hardy for ages instead and then they opted to give the belt to Chavo for no clear reason then killed the division by giving it to Hornswoggle. Would've been no possible harm in giving it to him except that it might have actually made people mildly care about that useless belt. |
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Post by jason1980s on Dec 1, 2022 17:31:17 GMT -5
Mabel/Viscera/Big Daddy V Albert/A-train I still have no idea what Vince or anyone saw in these guys. I'm glad Albert is a respected trainer now but they both kept getting new gimmick after new gimmick or new name after new name and it was the same old guy. I feel like Oscar has been short changed with MOM. He was the guys doing the rapping, leading the "Whoomp" chants the fans were in to. Mabel was god awful as a wrestler and having Mo off TV for months, thanks to Shawn, didn't help the team. Sadly Oscar got fired I guess which led to a horrible idea to make Mabel a main eventer a few months later. Someone must have really liked Mabel to keep him on after messing up Taker's face. |
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Post by sungod2020 on Dec 19, 2022 19:53:45 GMT -5
Terry Funk(as Chainsaw Charlie) only won one championship while working for the WWF/E. And that was as a tag team champion with Mick Foley(as Cactus Jack) by defeating the New Age Outlaws in a dumpster match at Wrestlemania XIV. They lost it back to them one night later on RAW.
Speaking of Foley, despite being one of the all-time greats, his three reigns as WWF champion don't even total two months. He won his first WWF championship on RAW on January 4th(taped December 29th) before losing it to The Rock at the Royal Rumble January 24th. Won it back from The Rock a week later on Half-time Heat(taped January 26th) before losing it to The Great One again on the RAW after St. Valentine's Day Massacre on February 15th.
His final WWF championship reign was defeating Triple H and "Stone Cold" Steve Austin at that year's Summerslam on August 22nd before losing it to Triple H the next night. That's a total of 47 days.
As far as his other title reigns go, the longest of his singular reign was being tag team champions with "Stone Cold" Steve Austin that lasted 55 days, though Austin was injured for pretty much the second half of it. I don't remember them ever defending the belts, at least on TV anyway.
In fact, if you combine all of Mick Foley's titles reigns(WWF, tag team, and hardcore) they come out to a total of 185 days, which is a little more than half a year.
As far as others are concerned, despite having two tag team title reigns, The Godwinns combined reigns total 9 days. They won it from The Bodydonnas on an MSG house show on May 19th, 1996 and then lost it a week later to The Smoking Gunns. Their second reign lasted only two days(9 in kayfabe) when they won the titles at Bad Blood on October 5h and then losing them to LOD on October 7th.
When it comes to non-WWF talent, Tank's(AKA Mantaur) only championship was the USWA title which he won from and lost to Jerry "The King" Lawler. He had it for 7 days.
Nathan Jones held two championships in his entire career that lasted not even two weeks. He won the WWA World Heavyweight Championship and held onto it for 6 days. His second championship was the NWA Intercontinental Tag Team Championship(with Heidenreich) that was also 6 days.
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Post by thegame415 on Dec 21, 2022 0:06:43 GMT -5
Funaki was in WWE for 12 years and held the cruiserweight title for about 2 months.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 21, 2022 1:22:39 GMT -5
Despite being one of the most over guys for a minute, and then sustaining a good amount of that overness afterward, Ryback only got one IC title reign that's most remembered for that absolute clusterf*** of an Elimination Chamber he won it in.
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Post by sungod2020 on Dec 21, 2022 8:48:48 GMT -5
Funaki was in WWE for 12 years and held the cruiserweight title for about 2 months. He was also hardcore champion for 20 seconds at Wrestlemania 2000 during that harcore battle royal match. |
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Dec 21, 2022 19:22:49 GMT -5
Stevie Richards was in WWE/WWECW for 11 years and only had a bunch of superfast Hardcore Title reigns.
The Barbarian didn’t win a title of note in his tenures in WWF and NWA/WCW in either tag or singles competition.
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Post by chrom on Dec 21, 2022 19:43:24 GMT -5
Stevie Richards was in WWE/WWECW for 11 years and only had a bunch of superfast Hardcore Title reigns. The Barbarian didn’t win a title of note in his tenures in WWF and NWA/WCW in either tag or singles competition. He and Dick Slater were the last US Tag Champs. |
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Post by sungod2020 on Jan 10, 2023 20:10:03 GMT -5
Here's one I just thought of - Crush. He made his WWF debut in June 1990 as part of Demolition who were already tag champs and then lost the belts to The Hart Foundation at Summerslam. He didn't win a championship on his debut, he already was one. Has anybody else ever done that? I don't recall.
Anyway, he was with the WWF on and off for 7 years and never captured any titles since. So he would qualify for this thread.
Also, Terri Runnels was with the WWF/E for 8 years and only had an 8 second run with the hardcore championship winning it from and losing it to Stevie Richards, all as an excuse for her butt shot.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 10, 2023 20:20:25 GMT -5
Not that you'd expect him to win anything in WWF given his goofy gimmick as the Berzerker and relatively short run, but John Nord never won a single title in his entire career despite wrestling for almost 15 years.
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Post by chrom on Jan 10, 2023 20:26:02 GMT -5
Here's one I just thought of - Crush. He made his WWF debut in June 1990 as part of Demolition who were already tag champs and then lost the belts to The Hart Foundation at Summerslam. He didn't win a championship on his debut, he already was one. Has anybody else ever done that? I don't recall. Anyway, he was with the WWF on and off for 7 years and never captured any titles since. So he would qualify for this thread. Also, Terri Runnels was with the WWF/E for 8 years and only had an 8 second run with the hardcore championship winning it from and losing it to Stevie Richards, all as an excuse for her butt shot. Xavier Woods was one half of The TNA Tag Champs in his debut, filling in for Pacman Jones. |
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Post by CMWaters on Jan 10, 2023 20:26:59 GMT -5
Here's one I just thought of - Crush. He made his WWF debut in June 1990 as part of Demolition who were already tag champs and then lost the belts to The Hart Foundation at Summerslam. He didn't win a championship on his debut, he already was one. Has anybody else ever done that? I don't recall. I could be wrong as this is pre-WrestleMania history, but I think Moondog Spot did back in the day as a replacement for Moondog King, who had won the titles with Moondog Rex. |
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Post by dangerousdanpotato on Jan 10, 2023 21:29:18 GMT -5
Here's one I just thought of - Crush. He made his WWF debut in June 1990 as part of Demolition who were already tag champs and then lost the belts to The Hart Foundation at Summerslam. He didn't win a championship on his debut, he already was one. Has anybody else ever done that? I don't recall. I could be wrong as this is pre-WrestleMania history, but I think Moondog Spot did back in the day as a replacement for Moondog King, who had won the titles with Moondog Rex. Spot, Pat Barrett and... Judy Bagwell. An elite group. |
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Post by sungod2020 on Jan 11, 2023 8:48:42 GMT -5
Shane Douglas' only championship in the F was when Shawn Michaels forfeited to him at In Your House 4, only to lose it to Razor Ramon 10 minutes later. One of the few times a championship de-legitimized a performer.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Jan 11, 2023 9:12:01 GMT -5
Cryme Tyme held tag titles in OVW for a little over two months, and in WWE proper not at all.
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Post by Psicofreak667 on Jan 12, 2023 3:55:56 GMT -5
In the 4 years he spent in WCW, Psicosis held the Cruiserweight title twice for a combined total of 7 days. One of the reigns was 0 days - he supposedly "won the title at a house show" from Lenny Lane, but what actually happened was Lane was about to get WCW in trouble with the GLAAD, so they pulled him from TV, put the belt on Psicosis, and had him immediately lose the belt to Disco Inferno (who was scheduled to go over Lane himself that same show). Psicosis had been promised a cruiserweight title reign for unmasking, and this is what WCW called the reward title reign
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