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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 1, 2022 0:34:02 GMT -5
It seems like there's a ratings conspiracy on this site... I don’t think I’ve ever voted 1 for a show, at least in recent memory. Just noticed the trend of them not being counted for Dynamite. The rating averages in the OP are more like Steiner math than legitimate is what I’m getting at.
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Post by Fade on Dec 1, 2022 1:02:07 GMT -5
Can’t think of a single negative point, another really strong show. Not a bad match, unique ways of promoting the talent. I thought MJF’s promo was a lil iffy but that ending was epic. He’s absolutely trying to downplay any cheering.
Only negative really was that Jade/Bow wow segment. It was awkward. We’ll see where it goes. And they’ve really downplayed ROH. Just promoted in the background through commentary. They got the point.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 1, 2022 1:15:24 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure he excludes 1's that aren't posted in the thread to guard against folks artificially driving down the show's rating. I don't think it's anything nefarious or mathematically flawed. It’s only done for AEW’s shows, and it’s done even for poorly received shows like a few weeks back when there were like 20 1 votes. Used to not count 10s in the Raw thread pre-HHH too. Obviously the numbers are then skewed if you ever wanted to compare brand to brand or even week to week of the same show. WWE shows never get rating bombed anymore, especially since HHH took over, idk if you've noticed that, but I have. There are barely any 1 vote bombs anymore. The votes skew much more positive, sometimes there's a stinker here and there, but there's consistency. Can't say the same about here on varying weeks.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 1, 2022 1:16:40 GMT -5
It seems like there's a ratings conspiracy on this site... I don’t think I’ve ever voted 1 for a show, at least in recent memory. Just noticed the trend of them not being counted for Dynamite. The rating averages in the OP are more like Steiner math than legitimate is what I’m getting at. People are free to comment their disdain for the show and say their rating, some have here and their votes will be counted. When they don't, and it seems like an obvious poll bomb (7 votes for 4 as of this post, at complete random is a nice example), then I calculate accordingly There's enough drama in this Board as of late, this doesn't need to be a stack on. In short, please stop trying to make this a thing every few months, please.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Dec 1, 2022 1:49:22 GMT -5
8 out of 10... I know a lot will disagree but that MJF promo put a damper on the show.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 1, 2022 2:19:39 GMT -5
Poll title is "rate the Raw" >_>
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 1, 2022 2:21:29 GMT -5
Poll title is "rate the Raw" >_> The Polls have fill ins for me, and sometimes I click the wrong one lol Unfortunately I can't edit that without removing the poll, which is a really dumb feature, but oh well lol
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Post by Mid-Carder on Dec 1, 2022 4:46:01 GMT -5
Any shows that starts with an unexpected Hangman is an easy 10!
The rest of the show was really fun as well with nothing particularly negative that stands out, except Bow Wow which took a point off.
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Post by chronocross on Dec 1, 2022 6:06:37 GMT -5
7/10.
I liked the brawl with Moxley/Page to open up the show and I thought Dax/Bryan was good.
I also enjoyed the AR Fox vs. Samoa Joe match and the Joe/Wardlow feud continues, though I still wish Hobbs had won at the PPV.
I tuned out when Jade came out as I didn't care much for the segment.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 1, 2022 7:47:24 GMT -5
8/10 for me.
Jade's segment would've been alright if it ended on something that made clear what we were setting up for...and instead Bow Wow just kind of sounded garbled towards the end and suddenly it was over, so, uh...yeah, that didn't land.
MJF's promo did a lot of very good things, but also could've been shaved down in time without detracting from it. Him leaning into the cheap heat too often felt like he was too concerned with keeping the crowd against him; I get it, but I don't think he needs to do that so much anymore.
Otherwise it's tough to knock it: Danielson/Dax was a banger, Joe looked awesome, very good Willow/Anna match with Ruby's return, Hangman being alive, and a crazy main event. Plus you get Yuta seemingly making it clear (I hope) that Final Battle is the last chapter against the JAS, at least for him, Ricky's build towards the top that's coinciding with him trying to do too much and probably hurting himself in a way that'll cost him at Winter is Coming, and MJF's words and actions laying some foundation for a potential Kingston feud and *definitely* for a Danielson one. Not everything was superlative, but all the stuff here was at least good, so solid marks.
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Post by flowercity on Dec 1, 2022 7:48:33 GMT -5
I don’t think I’ve ever voted 1 for a show, at least in recent memory. Just noticed the trend of them not being counted for Dynamite. The rating averages in the OP are more like Steiner math than legitimate is what I’m getting at. People are free to comment their disdain for the show and say their rating, some have here and their votes will be counted. When they don't, and it seems like an obvious poll bomb (7 votes for 4 as of this post, at complete random is a nice example), then I calculate accordingly There's enough drama in this Board as of late, this doesn't need to be a stack on. In short, please stop trying to make this a thing every few months, please. Theres a simple way for this to stop being brought up every few months
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 1, 2022 8:30:27 GMT -5
I don’t think I’ve ever voted 1 for a show, at least in recent memory. Just noticed the trend of them not being counted for Dynamite. The rating averages in the OP are more like Steiner math than legitimate is what I’m getting at. People are free to comment their disdain for the show and say their rating, some have here and their votes will be counted. When they don't, and it seems like an obvious poll bomb (7 votes for 4 as of this post, at complete random is a nice example), then I calculate accordingly There's enough drama in this Board as of late, this doesn't need to be a stack on. In short, please stop trying to make this a thing every few months, please. Just count every vote, it’s simple. There’s no way to tell if the votes for 8, 9, and 10 or any number actually watched the show unless you only count the votes of people that post on the thread. Like saying the 4 votes for the show is a poll bomb is an odd take. Maybe that’s what people voted it after watching it. That’s a reasonable number. I imagine the number of people that read threads and don’t post in it is way more than the number of people that do post in a thread. Also, you don’t seem to leave votes out only when you think it’s an “obvious poll bomb”, you just don’t count the 1 votes every single week, seemingly. The enjoyment of a show is subjective, leaving out the 1 votes for Dynamite and the 10 votes for Raw makes it seem like it’s not subjective, and that your vote has to be in line with the taste of the poll maker to count.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Dec 1, 2022 8:43:30 GMT -5
8/10. Solid episode. Everything is progressing nicely. Last two weeks have felt more like AEW of old.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Dec 1, 2022 9:05:44 GMT -5
Honestly, l like the ratings threads this way. Entirely subjective and based in many ways upon the week-to-week whims of whoever happens to be collecting the data. It closely aligns with how the real Nielsen ratings are generated.
Makes it all feel more authentic. We’re not looking at the total viewers here, this is more like the demo ratings.
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Post by Doo Doo Dickhead on Dec 1, 2022 10:32:34 GMT -5
I gave it an 8. The Jade vs. Bow Wow thing sucks and the MJF segment went a little too long, but I really enjoyed everything else. The first hour was fantastic.
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Post by lucas_lee on Dec 1, 2022 10:49:39 GMT -5
A tale of two Dynamite with great matches and mostly okay to bad promo segments. 8/10
MOTN: Dax vs DB (The Elite vs Death Triangle wouldve taken it any other week but this match ruled IMO)
Segment of the night: Mox vs Hangman
Least favorite segment: MJF's middle portion of his promo (I dont like him discussing the bidding war when its so far away. It just becomes repetitive and annoying)
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Post by Cyno on Dec 1, 2022 12:34:25 GMT -5
People are free to comment their disdain for the show and say their rating, some have here and their votes will be counted. When they don't, and it seems like an obvious poll bomb (7 votes for 4 as of this post, at complete random is a nice example), then I calculate accordingly There's enough drama in this Board as of late, this doesn't need to be a stack on. In short, please stop trying to make this a thing every few months, please. Theres a simple way for this to stop being brought up every few months Ideal solution would be for a mod or admin to take over the polling and, since they could see who votes and who doesn't, discount any votes from 0 post accounts who vote the highest or lowest score to skew the results. Even without the 10's and 1's debacle, averages in these threads are pretty wonky anyway. It counts "barely watched" as the equivalent of a zero (even worse than a 1) which makes absolutely no sense to me.
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Post by flowercity on Dec 1, 2022 12:57:22 GMT -5
Theres a simple way for this to stop being brought up every few months Ideal solution would be for a mod or admin to take over the polling and, since they could see who votes and who doesn't, discount any votes from 0 post accounts who vote the highest or lowest score to skew the results. Even without the 10's and 1's debacle, averages in these threads are pretty wonky anyway. It counts "barely watched" as the equivalent of a zero (even worse than a 1) which makes absolutely no sense to me. I genuinely have no clue so excuse my ignorance but are there really so many accounts doing that? I can’t imagine it actually makes a huge difference. We would get a more accurate representation counting everyone than selectively choosing what counts and doesn’t. Like another poster said, high grades aren’t excluded if they don’t post so the whole thing is a subjective whim. Besides OP is there anyone in favor of the current system?
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Post by Cyno on Dec 1, 2022 13:00:38 GMT -5
Ideal solution would be for a mod or admin to take over the polling and, since they could see who votes and who doesn't, discount any votes from 0 post accounts who vote the highest or lowest score to skew the results. Even without the 10's and 1's debacle, averages in these threads are pretty wonky anyway. It counts "barely watched" as the equivalent of a zero (even worse than a 1) which makes absolutely no sense to me. I genuinely have no clue so excuse my ignorance but are there really so many accounts doing that? I can’t imagine it actually makes a huge difference. We would get a more accurate representation counting everyone than selectively choosing what counts and doesn’t. Like another poster said, high grades aren’t excluded if they don’t post so the whole thing is a subjective whim. Besides OP is there anyone in favor of the current system? Apparently it was enough for a mod to reach out to him and tell him it was a thing that was happening.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 1, 2022 14:18:14 GMT -5
I genuinely have no clue so excuse my ignorance but are there really so many accounts doing that? I can’t imagine it actually makes a huge difference. We would get a more accurate representation counting everyone than selectively choosing what counts and doesn’t. Like another poster said, high grades aren’t excluded if they don’t post so the whole thing is a subjective whim. Besides OP is there anyone in favor of the current system? Apparently it was enough for a mod to reach out to him and tell him it was a thing that was happening. Yes, I was specifically told about this issue. People are trying to bring down the polls and it's very obvious when they are doing so, and it does make a difference, sometimes shows are a full point and a half lower from getting bombed and that skews it way more than if I just don't count the bombs, it gives it a much cleaner rating. And for clarification, I do count lower grades on AEW polls, just at times if there's a bomb or an egregious number of low votes especially for a highly praised show for zero reason, I take them into account. And if peeps comment they didn't enjoy the show, of course those are also counted. It's not a "Oh NO ONE can ever vote low", it's a by poll and by case basis. It happens, I've been doing this for about six, seven years now since RAW's Polls started? it's honestly more depressing than anything that we still get poll bombs. Again they've mostly stopped in the WWE sections, I don't really have this issue anymore even for RAW threads. In AEW, that's where it's been happening most. So honestly I encourage people who comment their low votes if they're genuinely voting low, it would help me out a great deal.
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