Rate the AEW Dynamite!: 11/30/2022

[Lizuka #BLM]

I'd just stop tracking the totals? The polls are useful outlets for discussing the quality of the show each week and getting a feel for how people felt about it but keeping a running score, particularly with the constant, "These votes counts, these ones don't," around it just feels rather pointless. Granted I guess by that logic it also doesn't hurt anything to count them either but it just feels kind of needless.

[XIII]

I’d remove half of the 10s and half of the ones(essentially how the Olympics scores diving and so forth)and add the remaining ones and tens to everything else and average it from there. Not sure why it’s such a serious issue with making sure that the polls have integrity or not. It’s just a poll on a wrestling forum, it doesn’t mean shit really.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Dec 1, 2022 14:21:30 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

I'd just stop tracking the totals? The polls are useful outlets for discussing the quality of the show each week and getting a feel for how people felt about it but keeping a running score, particularly with the constant, "These votes counts, these ones don't," around it just feels rather pointless. Granted I guess by that logic it also doesn't hurt anything to count them either but it just feels kind of needless.

At this point I'm not gonna stop, I've been tallying the results and averages since I started, and that's been years of work. So I'll keep doing it as is. 

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Dec 1, 2022 14:26:07 GMT -5 XIII said:

I’d remove half of the 10s and half of the ones(essentially how the Olympics scores diving and so forth)and add the remaining ones and tens to everything else and average it from there. Not sure why it’s such a serious issue with making sure that the polls have integrity or not. It’s just a poll on a wrestling forum, it doesn’t mean shit really.

When there are like 23 tens some weeks and the 1s vary, that's not something I'm gonna factor in

If they're closer in margin some weeks though? Maybe.

[polarbearpete]

Dec 1, 2022 14:18:14 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Dec 1, 2022 13:00:38 GMT -5 Cyno said:

Apparently it was enough for a mod to reach out to him and tell him it was a thing that was happening.

Yes, I was specifically told about this issue. People are trying to bring down the polls and it's very obvious when they are doing so, and it does make a difference, sometimes shows are a full point and a half lower from getting bombed and that skews it way more than if I just don't count the bombs, it gives it a much cleaner rating.

And for clarification, I do count lower grades on AEW polls, just at times if there's a bomb or an egregious number of low votes especially for a highly praised show for zero reason, I take them into account. And if peeps comment they didn't enjoy the show, of course those are also counted.

It's not a "Oh NO ONE can ever vote low", it's a by poll and by case basis. It happens, I've been doing this for about six, seven years now since RAW's Polls started? it's honestly more depressing than anything that we still get poll bombs. Again they've mostly stopped in the WWE sections, I don't really have this issue anymore even for RAW threads. In AEW, that's where it's been happening most. 

So honestly I encourage people who comment their low votes if they're genuinely voting low, it would help me out a great deal. 

When have you counted the 1s for Dynamite? Whenever I post the actual average in a thread, it’s after I’ve calculated the average without the 1s in it, which usually lines up with the average you post.

A few weeks ago was one of the worst received Dynamites ever, and there were 19 1 votes, and you didn’t count any of them. The following week when there were only 5 1 votes and a 0 vote, you didn’t count the 1s or the 0. It’s happened every week I looked at.

[Denny Zen is Cooking™]

It’s silly to get bent out of shape over an unofficial rating thread that like 100 people max vote in every week on an anonymous pro wrestling forum, I think.

[polarbearpete]

Dec 1, 2022 15:25:55 GMT -5 Denny Zen is Cooking™ said:

It’s silly to get bent out of shape over an unofficial rating thread that like 100 people max vote in every week on an anonymous pro wrestling forum, I think.

For sure, I know it’s not a big deal. Obviously to cbj it’s more than a silly poll as it takes time to compile these threads and calculate the averages each week for years and years. But I also find it silly to arbitrarily remove certain votes from such polls and then present the altered average, is all.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Dec 1, 2022 15:57:51 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

Dec 1, 2022 15:25:55 GMT -5 Denny Zen is Cooking™ said:

It’s silly to get bent out of shape over an unofficial rating thread that like 100 people max vote in every week on an anonymous pro wrestling forum, I think.

For sure, I know it’s not a big deal. Obviously to cbj it’s more than a silly poll as it takes time to compile these threads and calculate the averages each week for years and years. But I also find it silly to arbitrarily remove certain votes from such polls and then present the altered average, is all.

Well I think it's silly when people poll bomb these threads to make the polls and the shows look worse.

I will try and look at the polls more objectively, but please don't be surprised if the average you tally isn't the same as mine, especially when we've been going in a circle about this over a year and I'm tired lol

[polarbearpete]

Dec 1, 2022 16:00:19 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Dec 1, 2022 15:57:51 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

For sure, I know it’s not a big deal. Obviously to cbj it’s more than a silly poll as it takes time to compile these threads and calculate the averages each week for years and years. But I also find it silly to arbitrarily remove certain votes from such polls and then present the altered average, is all.

Well I think it's silly when people poll bomb these threads to make the polls and the shows look worse.

I will try and look at the polls more objectively, but please don't be surprised if the average you tally isn't the same as mine, especially when we've been going in a circle about this over a year and I'm tired lol

Thinking that poll bombing is happening to a high degree when there are usually a handful of 1 votes each week and then when there’s a bad show, surprise there are more 1 votes, seems like an R-Truth C-O-N-spiracy.

Also, you didn’t answer the earlier question about when you have counted 1 votes for Dynamite? It always seems like they’re entirely discounted.

[Nosnorb]

Solid 8 for me. Great main event between The Elite and Death Triangle, Willow and Anna Jay was a fun match (and it's always great to see Willow on TV), Lots of great segments and vignettes and AR Fox finally making it to the big leagues.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Dec 1, 2022 16:08:24 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

Dec 1, 2022 16:00:19 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Well I think it's silly when people poll bomb these threads to make the polls and the shows look worse.

I will try and look at the polls more objectively, but please don't be surprised if the average you tally isn't the same as mine, especially when we've been going in a circle about this over a year and I'm tired lol

Thinking that poll bombing is happening to a high degree when there are usually a handful of 1 votes each week and then when there’s a bad show, surprise there are more 1 votes, seems like an R-Truth C-O-N-spiracy.

Also, you didn’t answer the earlier question about when you have counted 1 votes for Dynamite? It always seems like they’re entirely discounted.

Sometimes I haven't, sometimes it's also not ones but it's a high degree of another number to mess with a poll, like the high degree of 4's for this one, for no rhyme or reason

Poll bombing isn't always just 1's, it's been mixed up in some cases, in some cases the 1's aren't the number picked, maybe because they know I'm wise to that. It's a mess when it does happen though.

[HMARK Center]

Are we still going on about this?

Move on, all of you, for the love of God.

[coleslaw]

I thought it was a solid episode. Good in-ring action, they set up some programs and got some TV time for people like Fox, Hobbs & Willow, plus Hangman and Ruby are back

Only real downsides for me were the MJF and Jade segments but they weren't terrible or anything.