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Post by kingoftheindies on May 20, 2023 12:20:26 GMT -5
in fairness to MJF I do think his title reign has been on an uptick because of the Iron Man match and a better build up with the Pillars. That being said, as good as the Iron Man Match was, the build up to the match was awful.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on May 20, 2023 13:03:06 GMT -5
All I'm saying is that as much as we're all confused why Tony is so adamant about bringing the guy back, it makes perfect sense once you realize that he is a mark for Punk in particular.
I do not think he is a mark/fanboy for anyone quite like he is Punk and there have been plenty of reports stating that over the years. None of this has any logic to it because being a fan doesn't allow for that.
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Post by Fade on May 20, 2023 13:10:18 GMT -5
All I'm saying is that as much as we're all confused why Tony is so adamant about bringing the guy back, it makes perfect sense once you realize that he is a mark for Punk in particular. I do not think he is a mark/fanboy for anyone quite like he is Punk and there have been plenty of reports stating that over the years. None of this has any logic to it because being a fan doesn't allow for that. And ain’t nobody gonna check him. Nobody’s gonna even dare tell Tony otherwise. Nobody’s in that position, not even Jericho apparently. For damn sure not the elite, so, just gotta let this mark fantasy train wreck play out lmao And along the same tone of how Meltzer’s talking recently, yeah, Collision, a second show, isn’t going to look as solid without Philster as it would with him in it. It’s a sad fact, but man, shit didn’t have to play out like this.
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Post by THE FVNKER on May 20, 2023 13:16:15 GMT -5
All I'm saying is that as much as we're all confused why Tony is so adamant about bringing the guy back, it makes perfect sense once you realize that he is a mark for Punk in particular. I do not think he is a mark/fanboy for anyone quite like he is Punk and there have been plenty of reports stating that over the years. None of this has any logic to it because being a fan doesn't allow for that. There's gotta be the added fact that he spent however many millions hiring the guy and wants to get the most juice out of the squeeze. I still think he should kick his ass to the curb, but there's gotta be more mitigating factors other than that he's just a mark for him (I hope).
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Post by markymark on May 20, 2023 13:59:11 GMT -5
Does that mean they managed to persuade Punk to return? lol
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Post by rajaah on May 20, 2023 14:48:32 GMT -5
It's an interesting What If to think about. What if MJF hadn't been so damn adamant about staying heel with his "same ol' same ol'" schtick, and had leaned into the tweener/face-ish role as the crowd was rallying behind him in an organic way, and he had a TON of momentum with the fanbase around the time he let loose and called TK a 'f***ing mark'. Dude was on fire. The crowd wanted him to be THE guy. It had such potential to launch MJF to the next level. Instead he played it safe, and his character work/title run is lukewarm. Granted Punk injuring himself (acting like a spoiled brat) messed a LOT of stuff up as far as storyline goes, but still... MJF could have been 1998 Rock but sabotaged his career trajectory for the sake of wanting to keep kayfabe like it’s 1975. Yeah, he was this close to being 1998 The Rock, but instead he's more like The Miz.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on May 20, 2023 15:02:37 GMT -5
Does that mean they managed to persuade Punk to return? lol
This is going to get so annoying if the same people are spreading different bullshit reports to every dirtsheet or podcast...
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Post by markymark on May 20, 2023 15:13:45 GMT -5
Does that mean they managed to persuade Punk to return? lol
This is going to get so annoying if the same people are spreading different bullshit reports to every dirtsheet or podcast...
But Reg and Phil(from Graspody)l source is likely their buddy Will Washington.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on May 20, 2023 15:26:19 GMT -5
This is going to get so annoying if the same people are spreading different bullshit reports to every dirtsheet or podcast... But Reg and Phil(from Graspody)l source is likely their buddy Will Washington.
Well, I mean more the idea that AEW could be just flooding the zone telling different sheets/podcasts different things and purposely muddying the waters. I'm not saying that this is definitely happening, I'm just saying that if it is, it would be very, very annoying and tiresome.
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Post by polarbearpete on May 20, 2023 15:41:20 GMT -5
..... They couldn't have kicked in the doors unless they were on some sort of Super solider serum, the doors at that stadium don't open inward, they open out. The Bucks came in with legal and HR, that doesn't scream wrapping their fist like they were the frigging Undertaker. The only reports the Bucks came in wanting to fight like honey badgers have been from people with ties to Punk's side. This is why I hate all this crap, so much misinformation out there, on all sides mind you, that people latch onto one story despite it being vetted as BS by secondary sources. If that’s correct about the doors, then that is interesting. You might notice I didn’t assert that they kicked in the door as a fact. I said if it were true. It’s just that every story that I read at the time ran with that. Here’s the one thing that makes zero sense to me then. If the Elite did not come in hot and prompt the fight, then why did they get punished at all? Punk went fully off of the reservation in that scrum and that would have been sufficient enough for me to seriously consider cutting ties with him. If he also instigated the fight afterwards it would be open and shut who’s to blame and only he would have gotten punished. That’s not what happened. They were suspended during the internal investigation into what happened, which is something that sometimes happens in workplace violence type investigations. I doubt they lost any pay.
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Post by dbsot on May 20, 2023 15:55:27 GMT -5
But Reg and Phil(from Graspody)l source is likely their buddy Will Washington.
Well, I mean more the idea that AEW could be just flooding the zone telling different sheets/podcasts different things and purposely muddying the waters. I'm not saying that this is definitely happening, I'm just saying that if it is, it would be very, very annoying and tiresome. I doubt Will is going to lie to his closest friends and I doubt TK would put him in a spot to do that. Especially only after a couple weeks on the job.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on May 20, 2023 15:58:07 GMT -5
This sounds like something where two things could be true at once. Dave said AEW contacted Daily's Place as a backup plan which could just mean Tony called and said "don't book anything that day just in case" which is technically distinct from "they have Daily's Place booked and fully ready to go"
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Post by CeilingFan on May 20, 2023 16:04:23 GMT -5
Can we all agree that June 17th can't come soon enough?
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on May 20, 2023 16:10:05 GMT -5
This sounds like something where two things could be true at once. Dave said AEW contacted Daily's Place as a backup plan which could just mean Tony called and said "don't book anything that day just in case" which is technically distinct from "they have Daily's Place booked and fully ready to go" Very true. They can also go 'what do you mean, Daily's Place was the whole time' if the Punk thing falls through. At least gives them deniability since AEW never publicized anything officially either way.
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Post by kingoftheindies on May 20, 2023 16:16:54 GMT -5
The source was not Will FWIW it is specifically in his contract with AEW that he cannot give any info to Fightful due to conflict of interest. The grapsody guys do have connections in AEW though as they did produce music for them and they have interviewed many people in AEW including Tony himself.
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Post by markymark on May 20, 2023 16:18:23 GMT -5
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 20, 2023 16:20:00 GMT -5
Glad Punk can agree that this should all get wrapped up with quickly, just kind of wish he wasn't once again vaguing to his workplace on Instagram.
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Post by Jasper Troy Bolton on May 20, 2023 16:31:38 GMT -5
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Post by markymark on May 20, 2023 16:31:46 GMT -5
Glad Punk can agree that this should all get wrapped up with quickly, just kind of wish he wasn't once again vaguing to his workplace on Instagram.
Well he posted these before that one.
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Post by Jasper Troy Bolton on May 20, 2023 16:32:43 GMT -5
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