Punk Scrum Thread II: Punk terminated from AEW

[Final Countdown Jones]

Konnan's so untrustworthy that even parts of the story that have been consistent across every telling of it feel like they may not have happened now.

[Lizuka #BLM]

I just find it weird how apparently Konnan's decided this is what cemented CM Punk as a big name. It's not even the highest-profile flameout he's had from a wrestling company.

[BorneAgain]

Given Konnan's questionable history with truth telling, I kind of want other famous BS artists in wrestling to offer their own input on this; the further they are away from AEW the better.



Gagne: Tony asked me, "What can I do to bring this whole thing to the next level?" I told him you gotta bring this Punk in. I said if he shows up, you'll make millions. Just make sure you don't give the guy muffins cause that'll set him off. Of course Tony never honored the consulting deal we set up, and didn't listen to me about the muffins, and we all saw what happened.

[The Captain]

I want to hear Superstar Billy Graham's take on this.

[Nr1Humanoid]

I will have better luck using a time machine to convince Shawn to job to Davey Boy in England than Tony will have to convince Punk to job to Omega.

[xCompackx]

Dec 4, 2022 13:32:42 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

I just find it weird how apparently Konnan's decided this is what cemented CM Punk as a big name. It's not even the highest-profile flameout he's had from a wrestling company.

Right? Like, I would think Punk leaving WWE would be more notable as that was years of bullshit leading to one of the biggest stars in the company leaving millions of dollars on the table.

Even if you believe Konnan's story (which nobody should), Punk acted like a diva and got pissy when he got overshadowed by younger talent.

[chrom]

Out of 100 times, Konnan lies in 99 in them and in the 100th he is exaggerating what happened.

[Milkman Norm]

Dec 4, 2022 13:38:16 GMT -5 The Captain said:

I want to hear Superstar Billy Graham's take on this.

Something about taking steroids and bulking up.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Dec 2, 2022 23:31:40 GMT -5 King Boo said:

Dec 2, 2022 21:29:34 GMT -5 Dub H said:

I have posted about it literally twice(well 3 times now). I would assume its the same for a lot of people.I would bet people are just overall tired of treads being closed because one or two person didnt like it and the CM Punk thread is just the peak of it.

Also its easy to say "just do another fun lighted thread" but all of you know it doesnt work like that, some type of fun just happens organically, you cant just make "the general thread look strong" .Especially when a lot of news about the scrum are still going. Being passive aggressive when people bring a love 600+ page thread also isnt helpful at all to the situation(not singling you out, went to read AskAMod, there was a few occasions). Just makes the people more mad and it becomes a cycle of pettiness and madness. Its locked and eventually it will run out of peoples system

That's not my fault. I'm not the one in the other threads taking shit way too seriously. Why can't you guys have fun all over the board like you did in that thread? I understand some things happen organically, but what's stopping you? This is what I don't understand. You're putting it on us to open a thread that went nearly 700 PAGES to have fun, when no one is putting that restriction on you. We're actually advocating for the opposite! Be silly! Tell jokes! Have fun!

In fairness to the mods, I don't see why the same fun can't be had over multiple threads instead of having 100 pages worth of filler and retelling the same jokes. I mean I get FAN does that a lot but still, can still make the same jokes on diff topics. I mean I stopped really paying attention to the thread in the 300s but that's my 2 cents

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

In regards to a Punk/Omega match, it could and should do well but you'd open the door for it to be more "shoot" than anything as far as the feud/promos go

[jm]

Dec 4, 2022 13:03:09 GMT -5 markymark said:

On the latest "Keepin' It 100" podcast, Konnan said he was given an update of what went down after the AEW All Out scrum between CM Punk and The Young Bucks:

“So this all started because (Hangman) Page felt that Punk got Cabana fired. Punk denied it. I already told you my conversation with Cabana, so I believe Cabana. Tony denied it, but a lot of the boys were bitter that he did that. That’s what started everything between them.”

“Then I guess Page went to something in Chicago or some Comic Con. You know they’re all like comic nerds and sht. They asked him, ‘Who does he (Page) go to advice for?’ He said that he doesn’t really listen to a lot of people. Now Punk hasn’t been in the business for seven years, so he doesn’t know like Page and The Young Bucks. He doesn’t know about them. I was told that he came back and he was giving everybody advice, but there were some people that were like, ‘I think Punk doesn’t know that we’re stars and made it on our own’, and some people weren’t listening to him and that rubbed him the wrong way.”

“The day that they did that thing on TV, Tony had no clue what he was going to say, and once he started talking, Tony didn’t know what to do. He was like most of us, like, what the fk is going on? So he got ambushed.”

“I didn’t know this until today, but remember when Jericho went to the table (at the media scrum). He was supposed to show up with The Young Bucks. He whispered into Tony’s ear what just happened much like the guy who told George Bush 911 was going down, and like Bush, Tony did nothing. They commended Chris, who obviously is a shark in the fking dressing room and knows his way around, he’s learned from the best, for his professionalism and not adding to the fire. From what I understand, The Young Bucks never saw the interview. Somebody told them about it. When they told them about it, they went running to the dressing room with these cops. (Konnan was asked if they were cops or the AEW security and Konnan said whichever one and he wasn’t sure as he didn’t ask). They busted in there and Punk thought he was going to get attacked so he punched one of The Young Bucks. When he punched one of The Young Bucks, obviously his brother got involved and his (Punk’s) trainer, Ace Steel, got on his (The Young Bucks') brother and then Omega cross-faced him. When he cross-faced him, this guy bit him. I guess there was a fking dog in there, Punk’s dog. He was in there and Omega was trying to pick up the dog. He’s seeing his friend getting beat up. They initially were only going to come in and say, ‘Hey, what the fk’, but Punk thought they were going to get attacked, so he defended himself.”

“That’s the story, and the rumor is he’s signing with WWE. That would be massive. If he has a year left, well, they’ll wait a year I guess. One thing is he doesn’t have to wrestle. He’s a legend now. He just shows up. What he did is legendary. Very few guys have done what he did. That’s like sht I did in Mexico. He’s a legend.”

wrestlingnews.co/aew-news/konnan-shares-new-details-on-aew-backstage-fight-what-chris-jericho-said-cm-punk-wwe

Here's webcam footage of Konnan as he told this story:

[xCompackx]

Seems a bit weird to need a specific thread to tell jokes that could be told in any thread related to the subject. Why does it matter *where* you type?

I'm sorry for snapping; I'm old, tired, hurt....

[Gerard Gerard]

I like that in all versions of the story the only element that seems to remain consistent is that Kenny's MO was protecting the dog.

[Kalmia]

Dec 4, 2022 21:56:17 GMT -5 Gerard Gerard said:

I like that in all versions of the story the only element that seems to remain consistent is that Kenny's MO was protecting the dog.

And that Punk's MO was not to protect his dog.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Dec 4, 2022 13:23:36 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

Konnan's so untrustworthy that even parts of the story that have been consistent across every telling of it feel like they may not have happened now.

are we even sure Tony Khan is a real person <_<

[The Captain]

Dec 5, 2022 0:43:13 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave is Correct said:

Dec 4, 2022 13:23:36 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

Konnan's so untrustworthy that even parts of the story that have been consistent across every telling of it feel like they may not have happened now.

are we even sure Tony Khan is a real person <_<

Tony Khan is a cocaine-induced vision brought to life by the collective unconscious.

[cjb01: Limited Edition Item!]

Dec 4, 2022 22:30:12 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

Dec 4, 2022 21:56:17 GMT -5 Gerard Gerard said:

I like that in all versions of the story the only element that seems to remain consistent is that Kenny's MO was protecting the dog.

And that Punk's MO was not to protect his dog.

He literally used his dog as a sympathy shield and said the Elite knocked his teeth out

Like I haven't trashed Punk as much as others have but whoever thought that was a good idea, whether it was Punk, his team, or both, good lord guys, that was f***ing stupid lol

[King Devitt: What Plants Crave]

Dec 5, 2022 1:14:07 GMT -5 The Captain said:

Dec 5, 2022 0:43:13 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave is Correct said:

are we even sure Tony Khan is a real person <_<

Tony Khan is a cocaine-induced vision brought to life by the collective unconscious.

That would actually explain a lot.

[Mozenrath]

Konnan is an odd man. He has numerous things he consistently is credited with accurately, like that he got WCW's luchadors booked and that guys like Rey benefited immensely from that. He also I think is pretty indisputably who taught Bret the Scorpion Hold (the Sharpshooter). Like, he doesn't need to bullshit for credbility, he just wants to, I guess?

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

Dec 2, 2022 15:08:12 GMT -5 slickrickstyles said:

Cracks me up how the overall sentiment here and elsewhere is basically to job him out and release him...


Man what a year can do...

I believe you mean "man what a five minute muffin scrum can do"