Punk Scrum Thread II: Punk terminated from AEW

[markymark]

Chris Jericho believes the AEW locker room was unfairly painted as a "dumpster fire" after the AEW All Out media scrum last year.

Following CM Punk's comments and physical altercation with The Elite that night, Jericho, Bryan Danielson, and Jon Moxley are said to have stepped up and assumed larger leadership roles. Jericho says the roster ended up coming out of the situation stronger than before.

"We just let people know that everything's gonna be OK. We are a great locker room with great people and a lot of momentum for our company that's still very young and things happen sometimes.' Jericho said of the incident to The Daily Mail. "There was a lot of uncertainty. We've got a lot of young guys and girls on our roster who have never been through stuff like this before, but it's a part of the business, it happens."

Jericho continued to say that he didn't want fans believing what they read online regarding the state of AEW's backstage environment.

"We were really getting painted with an unfair brush by the media in a lot of ways like 'it's a dumpster fire in the locker room' and that wasn't the case. And I don't want people to believe what they're reading and think that it's real, cause it wasn't," he continued.

The former AEW World Champion noted that he has been involved in backstage physical altercations previously, perhaps most notably with Goldberg in 2003.

"You go through things like that, fights and that sort of thing, I've been in them myself with locker room brawls,' Jericho said.

"You've got to continue forward and Mox, Danielson and I just really wanted to grab the horse by the reins before it got out of control and just let people know that if you have concerns let's discuss them, if you have issues let's discuss them but let's get through them together and come through stronger on the back end."

"I think we really came together well which was great for the locker room and for the fans because the fans too want to know that everything is going to continue moving forward."

Jericho believes the AEW locker room came away from the incident stronger than they were before.

"I think we did a really good job of righting the ship and most importantly letting people know that it's going to be OK. It's not the end of the world. These things happen and we deal with them and we become stronger as a result, which we have," he added. 

www.f4wonline.com/news/aew/chris-jericho-aew-locker-room-unfairly-painted-as-dumpster-fire-after-all-out

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Ok which one of you broke the thread...

we gotta policy here you break it you buy it!

[Nosnorb]

Aug 24, 2023 6:27:00 GMT -5 firsttimelongtime said:

Aug 23, 2023 18:11:16 GMT -5 The Ichi said:

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that wrestling has never in history benefited from guys not getting along, and that remains one of the single worst myths there is.

And before people point to their favourite example: Bret and Shawn, they forget that as soon as tensions went beyond trying to work everyone, they got in a fight where Bret tried to scalp Shawn and it only got worse from there.

Hogan and Savage popped buyrates in WCW. Bret and Shawn led to the introduction of the Mr McMahon character. Punk and Ryback popped a PPV buyrate. Doesn’t Eddie actually hate Claudio?

Having the two people in those programs hate each other didn't exactly help in those cases, and there is a reason why Hogan/Savage WCW is considered inferior to Hogan/Savage WWE.

In the case of Punk/Ryback, the increased buyrate had nothing to do with Punk not liking Ryback and everything to do with people wanting to see the unstoppable (at that stage at least) object in Ryback smash the very resistable force that was CM Punk in late 2012 all over the cell, and Ryback looking like shit for not beating Punk was the start of Ryback losing all of his luster and losing almost every time on PPV.

While I can't say for sure that the feuds mentioned would have been improved if the two dudes in them got along, better collaboration would have been a big help, especially in the case of Bret and Shawn. In the case of Ryback, having Punk agree to drop the title to him would have put The Big Guy in a lot better position as it would have shown that he could get the job done, and he probably wouldn't have went on to become a bottle job.

[Jedi-El of Tomorrow]

Aug 24, 2023 21:51:39 GMT -5 Nosnorb said:

Aug 24, 2023 6:27:00 GMT -5 firsttimelongtime said:

Hogan and Savage popped buyrates in WCW. Bret and Shawn led to the introduction of the Mr McMahon character. Punk and Ryback popped a PPV buyrate. Doesn’t Eddie actually hate Claudio?

Having the two people in those programs hate each other didn't exactly help in those cases, and there is a reason why Hogan/Savage WCW is considered inferior to Hogan/Savage WWE.

In the case of Punk/Ryback, the increased buyrate had nothing to do with Punk not liking Ryback and everything to do with people wanting to see the unstoppable (at that stage at least) object in Ryback smash the very resistable force that was CM Punk in late 2012 all over the cell, and Ryback looking like shit for not beating Punk was the start of Ryback losing all of his luster and losing almost every time on PPV.

While I can't say for sure that the feuds mentioned would have been improved if the two dudes in them got along, better collaboration would have been a big help, especially in the case of Bret and Shawn. In the case of Ryback, having Punk agree to drop the title to him would have put The Big Guy in a lot better position as it would have shown that he could get the job done, and he probably wouldn't have went on to become a bottle job.

To be fair, the Mega Powers exploding is one of the greatest storylines WWF/WWE has ever had.

[Renslayer]

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in...

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

God this thread's not gonna die till it hits 700 plus at least lmfao

[lucas_lee]

Aug 27, 2023 12:18:37 GMT -5 Renslayer said:

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in...

🫥

[mrbananagrabber]

The Bucks, Hangman, Omega and now Jungle Boy..Punk seems to enjoy picking fights with the least threatening looking men in wrestling. I wonder if he ever had a problem with Miro or Brody King the same thing would happen?

[Johnny B. Decent]

Seriously, just kick his dumb ass already.

[ChitownKnight]

Aug 27, 2023 12:18:37 GMT -5 Renslayer said:

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in...

After a depressing ass week in wrestling, we need to thank Punk for bringing some comedy back lol

[Facetious]

CM Punk and Jack Perry had an altercation backstage at AEW All In.

Details are few and far between at the moment, but we have learned that Jack Perry and CM Punk had an altercation shortly before CM Punk went to the ring for his AEW All In match. Jack Perry was on right before him, and did a spot on a car window, and said "it's real glass, cry me a river." This was a shot at Punk, who had a confrontation at an AEW Collision taping this Summer over Perry's insistence on using real glass for a spot on the show. We're told Perry wasn't happy with how the situation was relayed publicly by those close to Punk.

We haven't heard of the extent of which the altercation got, but that it got physical, and involved a lot of yelling.

We will follow up here with any additional details we learn.

Fightful

[XIII]

At a certain point Khaaaaaan has to look at the common denominator in all of this bullshit. Spoiler: it’s CM Punk

[Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story]

Punk is a shmuck at times but this sounds like Jack Perry instigated it, tbh.

[Dub H]

Aug 27, 2023 12:50:23 GMT -5 Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story said:

Punk is a shmuck at times but this sounds like Jack Perry instigated it, tbh.

How? Punk was the one that brought his name up to make himself look good.


What Punk did is much worse than a harmless comment

[cornettesracket]

I shouldn’t be laughing but CM punk is at it again. How many times does he need to be the constant in backstage issues before Tony tells him to hit the bricks ? I had sympathy for Tony khan Initially but it’s diminishing the as it goes on as he made a decision to bring punk back.

[chrom]

Everyone who is surprised, hop on your left foot and sing the Mexico National Anthem.

[Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story]

Aug 27, 2023 12:52:42 GMT -5 Dub H said:

Aug 27, 2023 12:50:23 GMT -5 Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story said:

Punk is a shmuck at times but this sounds like Jack Perry instigated it, tbh.

How? Punk was the one that brought his name up to make himself look good.


What Punk did is much worse than a harmless comment

Nah. It wasn’t. It was an example of a talent doing something dumb and Punk intervening. Then, said talent tries to instigate a physical confrontation right before going out to the ring? Not good. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Punk did what he did, but Perry trying to start a fight right before the biggest show of the year is just as f***ing dumb.

[lucas_lee]

Aug 27, 2023 12:47:58 GMT -5 Facetious said:

CM Punk and Jack Perry had an altercation backstage at AEW All In.

Details are few and far between at the moment, but we have learned that Jack Perry and CM Punk had an altercation shortly before CM Punk went to the ring for his AEW All In match. Jack Perry was on right before him, and did a spot on a car window, and said "it's real glass, cry me a river." This was a shot at Punk, who had a confrontation at an AEW Collision taping this Summer over Perry's insistence on using real glass for a spot on the show. We're told Perry wasn't happy with how the situation was relayed publicly by those close to Punk.

We haven't heard of the extent of which the altercation got, but that it got physical, and involved a lot of yelling.

We will follow up here with any additional details we learn.

Fightful

I dunno why is doing a spot in real glass a flex. I'm still trying to figure that part out.

[dreidemy]

I guess Jack Perry is dumb as f***

[ace]

Aug 27, 2023 13:03:33 GMT -5 Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story said:

Aug 27, 2023 12:52:42 GMT -5 Dub H said:

How? Punk was the one that brought his name up to make himself look good.


What Punk did is much worse than a harmless comment

Nah. It wasn’t. It was an example of a talent doing something dumb and Punk intervening. Then, said talent tries to instigate a physical confrontation right before going out to the ring? Not good. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Punk did what he did, but Perry trying to start a fight right before the biggest show of the year is just as f***ing dumb.

How do you know who was the physical aggressor?  Punk got Punk’d on live tv with the limo spot…you think Perry went to the back and shoved him?  Cause Phil is such a cool cucumber?