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Post by Dub H on Aug 28, 2023 21:32:02 GMT -5
I honety dont even see issue with what Perry said, I enjoy nudge nudge humor, the Elite does it, MJF, Punk does it.
The Acclaimed raps it every week
If that's enough to make Punk mad ,that's on Punk
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 28, 2023 21:32:40 GMT -5
Same here. I wonder if it got to the point where the guys in the trios match were told about it and asked to be ready, just in case. Fightful says it was definitely discussed. Yeah, I saw that. But that could mean just discussed between road agents. I can just imagine Christopher Daniels (if he was there) opening the Elite's locker room door with the biggest shit-eating grin on his face and explaining the situation.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 28, 2023 21:33:31 GMT -5
I'm still tickled that Punk immediately leaked the story that it was all Jack's fault, and then Miro said nah, and the truth had to come out. And it was all Punk's fault for instigating it because he had to leak the glass story to make himself look good after he shit all over Hangman again. How can anyone not look at this dude and see a clown?Ultimately I think both dudes are in the wrong, but I also like that Jack stood up to CM Punk's bullying bullshit. Because it takes more actual skill to be a (paid) clown than it does to be an angry jackass with a fragile ego.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Aug 28, 2023 21:33:36 GMT -5
If Punk gets blamed for starting it, Perry deserves equal blame for stirring the shit on the company’s largest show ever. I don’t think he should get a pass, tbh. He may mature and learn, but he still f***ed up too. They're both to blame. Punk should've ignored Perry, Perry should've ignored Punk. Perry shouldn't have made that comment, Punk shouldn't have leaked the glass story. It's the kind of situation where the solution should be to yell at them both, then sit them down to talk it out and overall just be more of a hardass on people doing this kind of stuff. It's in the ways it got physical and who the blame for that is being put on where I think this loses that evenness. If they have a shouting match backstage, people step in to break it up, and then the public stuff gets addressed, this isn't as big a story as it is right now. There's stuff they both share blame and deserve disciplinary action for, there's just also then. The other stuff. As far as maturing and learning, I do hope that Perry comes out of this better and someone talks to him. That he eases up on the attitude a bit and just overall does better, because being an antagonistic dick live on TV is dumb no matter who does it and he's not feuding with Punk so these comments are an unproductive mess. Punk's beyond the point where he's gonna mature so I don't have much hope for him. Appreciate the thoughtful response and you bring up a bunch of good points. Hopefully the whole locker room is learning a bunch about how to conduct themselves.
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Post by Dub H on Aug 28, 2023 21:34:09 GMT -5
Fightful says it was definitely discussed. Yeah, I saw that. But that could mean just discussed between road agents. I can just imagine Christopher Daniels (if he was there) opening the Elite's locker room door with the biggest shit-eating grin on his face and explaining the situation. I expect there was at least a healthy cackle from one of then
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Aug 28, 2023 21:35:25 GMT -5
I'm still tickled that Punk immediately leaked the story that it was all Jack's fault, and then Miro said nah, and the truth had to come out. And it was all Punk's fault for instigating it because he had to leak the glass story to make himself look good after he shit all over Hangman again. How can anyone not look at this dude and see a clown?Ultimately I think both dudes are in the wrong, but I also like that Jack stood up to CM Punk's bullying bullshit. Because it takes more actual skill to be a (paid) clown than it does to be an angry jackass with a fragile ego. Absolutely. It just boggles the mind if you have common sense. I also take back my stance, and edited what I said about thinking both guys were wrong. I stand with Jack.
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Post by Fade on Aug 28, 2023 21:35:53 GMT -5
I'm still tickled that Punk immediately leaked the story that it was all Jack's fault, and then Miro said nah, and the truth had to come out. And it was all Punk's fault for instigating it because he had to leak the glass story to make himself look good after he shit all over Hangman again. How can anyone not look at this dude and see a clown? I also like that Jack stood up to CM Punk's bullying bullshit. Punk's one of those dudes who can treat you anyway they want, but the minute you fire back they go "OH MY GOD HOW DARE YOU DO THAT TO ME?!" It's all the more amusing when it's the SAME EXACT SHIT PUNK HIMSELF DOES. And not even as bad as Punk does it. What Punk said about Hangman was a million times more unprofessional and uncalled for than "Cry me a river". Good for Jack. Miro really b the redeemer tho
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Aug 28, 2023 21:36:33 GMT -5
I'm still tickled that Punk immediately leaked the story that it was all Jack's fault, and then Miro said nah, and the truth had to come out. And it was all Punk's fault for instigating it because he had to leak the glass story to make himself look good after he shit all over Hangman again. How can anyone not look at this dude and see a clown? I also like that Jack stood up to CM Punk's bullying bullshit. Punk's one of those dudes who can treat you anyway they want, but the minute you fire back they go "OH MY GOD HOW DARE YOU DO THAT TO ME?!" It's all the more amusing when it's the SAME EXACT SHIT PUNK HIMSELF DOES. And not even as bad as Punk does it. What Punk said about Hangman was a million times more unprofessional and uncalled for than "Cry me a river". Good for Jack. Miro really b the redeemer tho Best thing Miro has done in ages.
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Post by jm on Aug 28, 2023 21:36:51 GMT -5
Perry is an idiot for saying that on TV. Punk is an idiot for apparently leaking the story and being the aggressor backstage. Nobody looks good in this at all, but only one of them has a looooooong history of drama in AEW. And I am so amused that if Punk hadn't been able to get it together in time to open the show, it would have been Kenny Omega and Hangman f***ing Page riding to the rescue to save the day and cover for it. I wish I could have seen the elites reaction to this shit going down.
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Post by markymark on Aug 28, 2023 21:39:03 GMT -5
They're both to blame. Punk should've ignored Perry, Perry should've ignored Punk. Perry shouldn't have made that comment, Punk shouldn't have leaked the glass story. It's the kind of situation where the solution should be to yell at them both, then sit them down to talk it out and overall just be more of a hardass on people doing this kind of stuff. It's in the ways it got physical and who the blame for that is being put on where I think this loses that evenness. If they have a shouting match backstage, people step in to break it up, and then the public stuff gets addressed, this isn't as big a story as it is right now. There's stuff they both share blame and deserve disciplinary action for, there's just also then. The other stuff. As far as maturing and learning, I do hope that Perry comes out of this better and someone talks to him. That he eases up on the attitude a bit and just overall does better, because being an antagonistic dick live on TV is dumb no matter who does it and he's not feuding with Punk so these comments are an unproductive mess. Punk's beyond the point where he's gonna mature so I don't have much hope for him. Appreciate the thoughtful response and you bring up a bunch of good points. Hopefully the whole locker room is learning a bunch about how to conduct themselves.
If anything they mightve learned the fastest way to get rid of Punk(angering him to the point he quits)
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Post by jm on Aug 28, 2023 21:49:00 GMT -5
Perry is an idiot for saying that on TV. Punk is an idiot for apparently leaking the story and being the aggressor backstage. Nobody looks good in this at all, but only one of them has a looooooong history of drama in AEW. And I am so amused that if Punk hadn't been able to get it together in time to open the show, it would have been Kenny Omega and Hangman f***ing Page riding to the rescue to save the day and cover for it.I could just imagine TK going up to Mox and then thinking twice about it before going to Kenny and Hangman.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Aug 28, 2023 21:50:05 GMT -5
He hates the place because of the constant issues. Most, if not all of them, are his fault. The issues with Cabana. The issues with Hangman. The issues with The ELITE. The issues with Darby. The issues with MJF. The issues with Perry. At this point, he can go suck a lemon. "I want to help get the young talent over." You haven't done that with ANY OF THEM.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Aug 28, 2023 21:50:51 GMT -5
Perry is an idiot for saying that on TV. Punk is an idiot for apparently leaking the story and being the aggressor backstage. Nobody looks good in this at all, but only one of them has a looooooong history of drama in AEW. And I am so amused that if Punk hadn't been able to get it together in time to open the show, it would have been Kenny Omega and Hangman f***ing Page riding to the rescue to save the day and cover for it.I could just imagine TK going up to Mox and then thinking twice about it before going to Kenny and Hangman. Mox would've been like, "I'm gonna kick the shit out of him."
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Post by lionheart21 on Aug 28, 2023 21:51:57 GMT -5
He hates the place because of the constant issues. Most, if not all of them, are his fault. The issues with Cabana. The issues with Hangman. The issues with The ELITE. The issues with Darby. The issues with MJF. The issues with Perry. At this point, he can go suck a lemon. "I want to help get the young talent over." You haven't done that with ANY OF THEM. Wait, when did he start having an issue with Darby? I legit can't keep track of all of this.
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Post by lionheart21 on Aug 28, 2023 21:53:18 GMT -5
I could just imagine TK going up to Mox and then thinking twice about it before going to Kenny and Hangman. Mox would've been like, "I'm gonna kick the shit out of him." Mox is like the last guy that Punk wants to mess with since: 1) He's the ace of AEW 2) He has no time for this shit and has no issue in making that known
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Post by markymark on Aug 28, 2023 21:53:32 GMT -5
He hates the place because of the constant issues. Most, if not all of them, are his fault. The issues with Cabana. The issues with Hangman. The issues with The ELITE. The issues with Darby. The issues with MJF. The issues with Perry. At this point, he can go suck a lemon. "I want to help get the young talent over." You haven't done that with ANY OF THEM.
Bullet Club Gold, Ricky seem to be doing fine
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Post by jm on Aug 28, 2023 21:54:45 GMT -5
I could just imagine TK going up to Mox and then thinking twice about it before going to Kenny and Hangman. Mox would've been like, "I'm gonna kick the shit out of him." TK: "Hey Mox I need a favor from you. Punk has gone full Punk again and is refusing to wrestle tonight. So I was wondering that we could open the show with Stadium Stampede." Mox: *glares at TK* TK:"...............hahahahahahahaha I'm just messing with you. Everything's just fine. You enjoy Stadium Stampede when it comes later in the show. I need to go talk to Kenny and Hangman."
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Post by Dub H on Aug 28, 2023 21:55:27 GMT -5
He hates the place because of the constant issues. Most, if not all of them, are his fault. The issues with Cabana. The issues with Hangman. The issues with The ELITE. The issues with Darby. The issues with MJF. The issues with Perry. At this point, he can go suck a lemon. "I want to help get the young talent over." You haven't done that with ANY OF THEM.Bullet Club Gold, Ricky seem to be doing fine
Not because of Punk. All Punk did with then was get win over the . Big is doing fine because of their amazing chemistry between each other
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 28, 2023 21:58:03 GMT -5
I honety dont even see issue with what Perry said, I enjoy nudge nudge humor, the Elite does it, MJF, Punk does it. The Acclaimed raps it every week If that's enough to make Punk mad ,that's on Punk It's just an intent thing for me. Like Punk getting mad on it is absolutely on Punk because Punk has been doing it for months and nobody he's targeted has done shit. But the same way Punk is out there shitting on guys he's not working a program with, Perry in his Wednesday purgatory after being banished for glass crimes is not going to work with CM Punk. It's a shot purely out of pettiness and it's how you get problems. When Max does his diss entrance, it's against people he's feuding with or people removed from wrestling, he's not building phantom heat for the concept of a story that's never happening. It's not the nature of the nudge nudge humour, but the intent behind it of "I'm gonna show up this guy who said shit to Sean Ross Sapp about me"
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Post by khali on Aug 28, 2023 21:58:14 GMT -5
There’s something hilarious about CM Punk, who complained in his unhinged press conference about people leaking stuff, leaking a story about Jack Perry which eventually resulted in Punk choking a guy minutes before going to the ring.
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