Punk Scrum Thread II: Punk terminated from AEW

[The anti-ratings Luddite]

On another board, I remember going through phases of this

First was shock

Second was bemusement

Then sadness

After that anger

Now I just think CM Punk is a delusional, mean-spirited horse's ass who DESPERATELY needs therapy that he'll never get, and who makes Ole Anderson look like a swell, level-headed guy who would never overestimate his own importance to the world at large.

[markymark]

Posting again the recent PWTorch article about Punk

C.M. Punk’s relationship with Tony Khan might be getting to the point of beyond repair at this point, some PWTorch sources in AEW suggest.

With AEW’s All Out PPV in Chicago this Sunday, there is growing concern about the crowd reaction if Punk doesn’t wrestle on that show. Certainly fans assumed he’d be on the show when they purchased tickets. If Punk isn’t on the PPV taking place in Chicago, it’s an indication Khan couldn’t justify not suspending Punk over what happened on Sunday even if meant not appearing in his home market. Then again, Khan could possibly justify asking Punk to wrestle in Chicago for the sake of the fans, but then begin serving his suspension after that.

However, while Khan has been a big fan of Punk and tried to excuse his behavior or accommodate him in a way to try to steer him away from volatile situations, Punk’s conduct on Sunday could be a breaking point for Khan.

When Perry made his unauthorized comments on the PPV about “real glass,” a reference to stories that Perry believed Punk floated to the wrestling media weeks earlier to try to make him look bad, Punk was already upset about not being picked up at the airport by anyone with AEW. Punk didn’t know at the time that no one was picked up at the airport and he wasn’t singled out or forgotten about. AEW, unlike WWE, didn’t provide that level of logistical travel support to the wrestlers on this overseas trip.

PWTorch has learned Punk confronted TK in his locker room in what has been characterized as a heated, intense manner and, at one point, according to three sources who have heard about the situation, told Khan he quit and chewed out Khan with harsh phrasing.

As we previously reported, there was a moment where it appeared the Punk vs. Samoa Joe match wouldn’t take place at all, or at least not on time. It didn’t take long for Punk to agree to move forward with the match as planned, though. After his match, there was an extended period of time without communication between Punk and Khan, which is unusual given in past situations the two at least communicated via text after blow-ups or backstage situations. We haven’t heard if there has been communication since then.

Sean Ross Sapp reported on Twitter/X earlier this afternoon that “Punk has not been informed of a suspension by AEW.” Nick Hausman from Haus of Wrestling, after being read that Tweet, said on today’s (yet to be released) Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast that he heard Punk had been informed he was suspended, but not necessarily by Khan himself. “I’ve heard the opposite,” Haus said. “I believe Punk was informed of the suspension; I’ll put it that way.” There are no indications that Khan has directly communicated with Punk since Punk lashed out at him in his locker room before his match at All In. Instead, it appears Punk was informed he was suspended through his lawyer.

Sports Illustrated backed up a Bryan Alvarez report on Twitter/X that Punk and Perry have both been suspended. Past fines and suspensions for Punk, and others, have been kept quiet. PWTorch sources say Punk has been fined for past reported incidents, but both parties agreed to not go public with them.

The Gorilla position at All In on Sunday was a big open space between the entrance tunnel and the hallway where many wrestlers were lingering all evening. There have been some questions about how Punk and Perry were allowed to get so close to each other after Perry’s inflammatory comments in his match right before Punk’s.

The Gorilla position, near where the Punk-Perry confrontation and brief scuffle took place, was next to a photo shoot area and even a table with snacks. Perry would have been hanging out there after his match doing the usual post-match routine of mingling with wrestlers and getting feedback on his match. Since Punk’s match was next, they would have naturally been near each other when Punk headed toward the entrance tunnel, but there are conflicting reports regarding who made their way toward the other for the confrontation. Punk was worked up at that point, having just had it out with Khan, according to multiple sources

If AEW’s investigation found that while Perry instigated matters with his comment to the camera during his match, Punk escalated matters by confronting Perry in person near Gorilla before his match, it would explain why both were suspended over that. It’s also possible Punk lashing out at Khan could be enough for Khan to justify suspending him if Khan felt Punk crossed a line he hadn’t before.

With all of the drama, AEW wrestlers and personnel are opening speculating whether Punk is looking to just remove himself entirely from AEW at this point, and if Khan might be at the same place regarding the viability of the relationship.

With AEW negotiating with Warner Media about TV rights fees on a contract renewal for AEW’s cable shows, Khan might be reluctant to make any big move at this point that would subtract arguably the biggest name on his roster, especially if Khan has any sympathy for Punk who has shown a commitment to trying to move on from controversy and is merely reacting to being prodded by others.

If they can get Mercedes and Edge those would be the perfect replacement for Punk and also what WBD wants...

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again speculation...We have to stop talking in certainties when words like "might be", "could be", etc are used in reports...All it does is start nonsensical NUNT UH fights

[BorneAgain]

Hausman will later clarify that what he meant to say was that Marc Mero didn't confront Punk.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

So just to see if I can clarify what's happened the last like 40 pages

Khan was present for the Perry/Punk fight and had monitors knocked onto him

Punk and Jack seem to be suspended for an unspecified amount of time

Punk might just be done with the company entirely and Tony Khan's relationship with him seems fractured

Punk wasn't even told he was suspended

There may or may not have been a confrontation with Miro, regardless, Miro shot down his groups side of the story being true

Brody King injured himself via kicking a trashcan

Can anyone tell me if I'm missing any other big points here?

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

Aug 29, 2023 17:39:43 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

So just to see if I can clarify what's happened the last like 40 pages

Khan was present for the Perry/Punk fight and had monitors knocked onto him

Punk and Jack seem to be suspended for an unspecified amount of time

Punk might just be done with the company entirely and Tony Khan's relationship with him seems fractured

Punk wasn't even told he was suspended

There may or may not have been a confrontation with Miro, regardless, Miro shot down his groups side of the story being true

Brody King injured himself via kicking a trashcan

Can anyone tell me if I'm missing any other big points here?

i bet you've never been in a big dust up slap rumble irl before, that too 

that and punk seems to have been told but by word of his lawyer which you can't blame the company for doing

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

At this point Nick Hausman cannot be trusted as a source can he? He is the only person seemingly left that's willing to kiss Punk's ass.

[Final Countdown Jones]

Aug 29, 2023 17:39:43 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Punk wasn't even told he was suspended

Minor correction here being that we now know that Punk wasn't told directly by the company, but only because they notified Punk through his lawyer instead. Punk is aware he's suspended, the "I wasn't told" stuff is just spin.

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Aug 29, 2023 17:40:58 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

Aug 29, 2023 17:39:43 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

So just to see if I can clarify what's happened the last like 40 pages

Khan was present for the Perry/Punk fight and had monitors knocked onto him

Punk and Jack seem to be suspended for an unspecified amount of time

Punk might just be done with the company entirely and Tony Khan's relationship with him seems fractured

Punk wasn't even told he was suspended

There may or may not have been a confrontation with Miro, regardless, Miro shot down his groups side of the story being true

Brody King injured himself via kicking a trashcan

Can anyone tell me if I'm missing any other big points here?

i bet you've never been in a big dust up slap rumble irl before, that too 

that and punk seems to have been told but by word of his lawyer which you can't blame the company for doing

I could have sworn someone said that a member of Punk's side broke their hand...Is this the King kicking the trashcan situation? Definitely is spiraling into telephone.

[daaave]

Aug 29, 2023 17:39:43 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

So just to see if I can clarify what's happened the last like 40 pages

Khan was present for the Perry/Punk fight and had monitors knocked onto him

Punk and Jack seem to be suspended for an unspecified amount of time

Punk might just be done with the company entirely and Tony Khan's relationship with him seems fractured

Punk wasn't even told he was suspended

There may or may not have been a confrontation with Miro, regardless, Miro shot down his groups side of the story being true

Brody King injured himself via kicking a trashcan

Can anyone tell me if I'm missing any other big points here?

People ate Nandos

[BorneAgain]

Aug 29, 2023 17:39:43 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

So just to see if I can clarify what's happened the last like 40 pages

Khan was present for the Perry/Punk fight and had monitors knocked onto him

Punk and Jack seem to be suspended for an unspecified amount of time

Punk might just be done with the company entirely and Tony Khan's relationship with him seems fractured

Punk wasn't even told he was suspended

There may or may not have been a confrontation with Miro, regardless, Miro shot down his groups side of the story being true

Brody King injured himself via kicking a trashcan

Can anyone tell me if I'm missing any other big points here?

There are reports that the trash can also had bad blood with Punk and has been telling its friends that they believe the Brody kick was possibly set up by Punk in retaliation for a previous incident.

[markymark]

[Gawk Rivers]

Getting conflicting reports that Brody King actually tripped over a fire hydrant and it sprayed water everywhere and he was like HNNNNNNNN 😡

[koreycaskets]

Any word on what was ordered from Nandos? Or has this not been reported yet?

[polarbearpete]

Aug 29, 2023 15:56:53 GMT -5 mikeoldmac said:

If Khan had just spoke to Page and Punk at beginning and been a boss instead of trying to be a friend, this wouldnt be where it is now

Oh yeah, Punk is known for being reasonable. The thing to avoid this all was to fire Punk after Brawl Out like everyone said.

[Jonathan Michaels]

So……

Did anyone else watch the scrum?

And did anyone else think it a bit weird the tone Tony had when he was talking with Orange Cassidy?

Because it seemed a bit off then and now, thinking back on it, it feels like Tony was working some shit out.

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

Aug 29, 2023 17:43:02 GMT -5 slickrickstyles said:

Aug 29, 2023 17:40:58 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

i bet you've never been in a big dust up slap rumble irl before, that too 

that and punk seems to have been told but by word of his lawyer which you can't blame the company for doing

I could have sworn someone said that a member of Punk's side broke their hand...Is this the King kicking the trashcan situation? Definitely is spiraling into telephone.

that trash can said brody king smelled bad and went into business for itself, do not believe your eyes

[Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite]

Aug 29, 2023 15:39:07 GMT -5 Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story said:

Aug 29, 2023 15:37:56 GMT -5 Denny Zen is Cooking™ said:

This thread is moving way too quickly. I was 1000% joking and riffing on earlier posts. 

DO YOU WANT TO STEP OUTSIDE?

I for one think it's unfair of the people who are assuming Punk asking Miro if he wanted to step outside was meant in a negative/threatening way

For all we know Punk thought Miro was looking stressed out and would benefit from going outside and enjoying a beautiful day in a scenic, foreign land

[Final Countdown Jones]

Aug 29, 2023 17:47:37 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

Aug 29, 2023 17:43:02 GMT -5 slickrickstyles said:

I could have sworn someone said that a member of Punk's side broke their hand...Is this the King kicking the trashcan situation? Definitely is spiraling into telephone.

that trash can said brody king smelled bad and went into business for itself, do not believe your eyes

Oh the garbage can was Michael Elgin? Never mind I like Brody again

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Aug 29, 2023 17:45:36 GMT -5 markymark said:

You realize that person was saying that QT is trash right? haha