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Post by Kalmia on Aug 30, 2023 12:11:32 GMT -5
Punk is still the lineal champion, since he didn't lose the title in the ring. At least, that's how it works in boxing. Punk has already been beaten since he returned as Ricky Starks pinned him and that was before he pulled the belt out. By lineal champ rules, he wasn't even the champ when he declared he was.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Aug 30, 2023 12:11:55 GMT -5
Really I think a significant part of why Punk has been so much worse in AEW than he ever was in WWE is due to seeing the company as beneath him. It's abundantly clear he thought he was gracing a C-level company with his presence and was going to instantly walk in the door and elevate the place by himself, and he's lashing out pissed off that there are people in the company who are big deals besides him. Honestly don't really think it's that at all. His issue is that in ROH as a young guy he absorbed everything vets like Steamboat/Funk/Foley told him and in WWE when he first got in he did that to some degree too. But in AEW, it pisses him off that as he's now the vet, some young guys flat out ignore or won't listen if you talk to them. That's why he gravitates towards guys like Hobbs and Starks. When he was talking to them, they listened. Hangman didn't, and that along with the Colt stuff pissed him off. It's entirely a respect your elders thing. Feels like it's a little of both. He spent years as a young guy in a WWE locker room that still had people like Hardcore Holly, Undertaker, and JBL in it, and it seems like at least part of what he's doing now is paying it forward to the young guys who he feels like have it "easy." The whole being irritated that Jack Perry had the audacity to take a vacation thing is really telling to me about his current state of mind and views on "the business."
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 30, 2023 12:12:32 GMT -5
what I don’t get about the real world title is why anyone is even fighting for it
I get fighting for the ftw one right now because it was hooks dads whole deal but why would anyone give a shit about the real world title on collision
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Post by The Captain on Aug 30, 2023 12:14:42 GMT -5
what I don’t get about the real world title is why anyone is even fighting for it I get fighting for the ftw one right now because it was hooks dads whole deal but why would anyone give a shit about the real world title on collision To knock Punk's ego down a peg or ten.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Aug 30, 2023 12:16:16 GMT -5
I can't anymore, this is too much. Punk being accused of being a locker room bully then promptly being photographed with JBL cannot be real life. Yep he was at the Cauliflower Alley Club yesterday and apparently will be making a speech there tonight. JBL is thrilled to not be the most toxic personality in the room for once. Also, please tell me this speech is being streamed somewhere. There's no way the dude's not going full Kanye on the mic.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 30, 2023 12:17:17 GMT -5
I have zero actual exposure to it but at least on paper the whole Real World Champion thing just seems astoundingly stupid because 1), it's an inherently heel gimmick being done by what's supposed to be a beloved top face, and 2), it only really works if it immediately plays into a feud with the actual champion which doesn't seem to be the case.
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Post by Gawk Rivers on Aug 30, 2023 12:17:41 GMT -5
Ron Simmons jumping in to the choke conversation like what do you mean you didn't beat the shit out of him on live TV in front of his family and friends
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 30, 2023 12:18:08 GMT -5
what I don’t get about the real world title is why anyone is even fighting for it I get fighting for the ftw one right now because it was hooks dads whole deal but why would anyone give a shit about the real world title on collision To knock Punk's ego down a peg or ten. i guess so but the logical thing for them to do in kayfabe would be to look at punk and be like "yeah ok old man" and not even acknowledge it lol
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Aug 30, 2023 12:18:31 GMT -5
I have zero actual exposure to it but at least on paper the whole Real World Champion thing just seems astoundingly stupid because 1), it's an inherently heel gimmick being done by what's supposed to be a beloved top face, and 2), it only really works if it immediately plays into a feud with the actual champion which doesn't seem to be the case. It kinda feel like it's set up to go the way of Moose with the old TNA belt, where he pretty much willed it into being an actual championship.
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Post by Venti on Aug 30, 2023 12:18:33 GMT -5
I swear JBL has looked the same for like 20 years.
All that Mamajuana he was drinking kept him young I guess
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Aug 30, 2023 12:21:57 GMT -5
I swear JBL has looked the same for like 20 years. All that Mamajuana he was drinking kept him young I guess Being born looking like you're forty takes a while to pay off, but it does pay off.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 30, 2023 12:22:17 GMT -5
I swear JBL has looked the same for like 20 years. All that Mamajuana he was drinking kept him young I guess It's weird because from the neck up he looks the same and from the neck down he appears to be a third the size he used to be because every outfit he wears looks gigantic on him.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Aug 30, 2023 12:23:31 GMT -5
This isn't very punk rock.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 30, 2023 12:23:53 GMT -5
I swear JBL has looked the same for like 20 years. All that Mamajuana he was drinking kept him young I guess It's weird because from the neck up he looks the same and from the neck down he appears to be a third the size he used to be because every outfit he wears looks gigantic on him. he has the same tailor as david byrne
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Post by polarbearpete on Aug 30, 2023 12:23:54 GMT -5
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Post by jm on Aug 30, 2023 12:25:54 GMT -5
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Aug 30, 2023 12:26:28 GMT -5
what I don’t get about the real world title is why anyone is even fighting for it I get fighting for the ftw one right now because it was hooks dads whole deal but why would anyone give a shit about the real world title on collision Because “I was never beaten!” Though he’s not taking into account that title vacancies upon a previous champion’s unavailability are the norm. The lineage of the AEW world championship hasn’t been completely upended, Moxley clearly beat Tanahashi to become the champion after Punk got suspended (so any hiccups in the flow of the lineage are his own doing because he couldn’t let an obscure interview from Page fade into the abyss), Max defeated Mox, so Max is the rightful champion. Punk literally has no convincing argument for any sort of lineal title. If the character thinks he should have his status as champion recognized by the Khan character, Bockwinkel and Orton being awarded titles without a match didn’t exactly make those two look like valiant babyfaces (because they were, y’know, *heels*).And him being #1 contender at time of writing is up in the air because Konosuke’s the one out here pinning the former world champions.
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Post by Venti on Aug 30, 2023 12:27:21 GMT -5
I swear JBL has looked the same for like 20 years. All that Mamajuana he was drinking kept him young I guess Being born looking like you're forty takes a while to pay off, but it does pay off. Ahh the Arn Anderson syndrome
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 30, 2023 12:27:36 GMT -5
It's weird because from the neck up he looks the same and from the neck down he appears to be a third the size he used to be because every outfit he wears looks gigantic on him. he has the same tailor as david byrne "AH LOVE IT MAGGLE"
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 30, 2023 12:28:38 GMT -5
he has the same tailor as david byrne "AH LOVE IT MAGGLE" WHAAAA AND MY HEAT GOES ON AND MY HEAT GOES ON
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