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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 2, 2023 10:04:39 GMT -5
"Let's ignore on the parts that make CM Punk a liability because he can't control himself and he's not available enough to build a brand around him but let's focus on the stats that make him look good, OK?" What about Jack Perry? It seems like a lot of people want to let him off the hook. What about Jack Perry? "CM Punk sells a lot of t-shirts so he should be allowed to do what he wants" is the sentiment you brought forward by posting that tweet, none of this is about Jack Perry. Jack Perry doesn't sell enough t-shirts to be allowed to antagonize co-workers, we're all in agreement on that, but you can't what-about the stuff you brought up.
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Post by CeilingFan on Sept 2, 2023 10:08:21 GMT -5
What about Jack Perry? It seems like a lot of people want to let him off the hook. Jack Perry didn't freaking CHOKE ANYBODY. What triggered the chain of events? Perry knocking on glass and saying "Cry me a river!".
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Post by Dub H on Sept 2, 2023 10:09:37 GMT -5
And as replied to the numbers they dont make any sense ,it contradicts aew's own site. I would rather believe the aew site than numbers pulled with no source
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Post by Dub H on Sept 2, 2023 10:10:34 GMT -5
Jack Perry didn't freaking CHOKE ANYBODY. What triggered the chain of events? Perry knocking on glass and saying "Cry me a river!". Whay triggered the chain of events? Punk spreading news about JackPerry and dragging his name
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Sept 2, 2023 10:12:42 GMT -5
Jack Perry didn't freaking CHOKE ANYBODY. What triggered the chain of events? Perry knocking on glass and saying "Cry me a river!". The leak that Punk got Perry's pre-approved spot nixed because he thought that Perry was using it as an excuse to get vacation time. Vacation time that had been approved already.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 2, 2023 10:21:22 GMT -5
If someone goes "Cry me a river" and you escalate the situation to choking them, you're not the good guy.
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Post by rajaah on Sept 2, 2023 10:26:57 GMT -5
But BUSINESS BUSINESS MONEY T-SHIRTS MERCH SALES BUSINESS MONEY
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Sept 2, 2023 10:31:01 GMT -5
I think I owe an apology to Mercedes stans, because they have nothing on CM Punk stans.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Sept 2, 2023 10:32:28 GMT -5
"Let's ignore on the parts that make CM Punk a liability because he can't control himself and he's not available enough to build a brand around him but let's focus on the stats that make him look good, OK?" What about Jack Perry? It seems like a lot of people want to let him off the hook. I think the Jack Perry vs. Hook feud should be over, I don't know where else they can go with it.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 2, 2023 10:32:53 GMT -5
I think I owe an apology to Mercedes stans, because they have nothing on CM Punk stans. At least Mercedes seems like a nice person and at least I'm used to simps of pretty women. Not simping for a violent narcissistic 40 years dude.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Sept 2, 2023 10:34:44 GMT -5
I’m down for a cm Punk farewell run if he can go to extensive therapy and apologize for his actions and actually change. But with the way he is now, even if he drives up business is still a toxic presence. You keep Punk, you drive away Mox, Omega, MJF ect and im sure Tony doesn’t wanna do that
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Post by Viking Hall on Sept 2, 2023 10:39:00 GMT -5
Jack Perry didn't freaking CHOKE ANYBODY. What triggered the chain of events? Perry knocking on glass and saying "Cry me a river!". 😂 c'mon mate, read this back. That should be barely enough to cause a dirty look, let alone attempting to choke someone unconscious. What a joke.
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Post by rajaah on Sept 2, 2023 10:44:42 GMT -5
What triggered the chain of events? Perry knocking on glass and saying "Cry me a river!". 😂 c'mon mate, read this back. That should be barely enough to cause a dirty look, let alone attempting to choke someone unconscious. What a joke. /sigh It's no use. The Young Bucks started a grand conspiracy against Punk and we know this even though there's no evidence of it. And Hangman said something mildly feather-ruffling. And Jack Perry took a shot at Punk mid-match. What is Punk SUPPOSED to do?? Just NOT start fights with all of these people or publicly slander them repeatedly?
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Sept 2, 2023 10:46:34 GMT -5
What triggered the chain of events? Perry knocking on glass and saying "Cry me a river!". 😂 c'mon mate, read this back. That should be barely enough to cause a dirty look, let alone attempting to choke someone unconscious. What a joke. When the story first broke I thought it was Perry's fault because I believe the story said he got physical with Punk first. But after learning how much of an untrustworthy asshat Phil really is, I refuse to give him the benefit of the doubt on anything, even if Perry does need to grow up a little bit.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 2, 2023 10:48:43 GMT -5
I actually wonder if having Punk be the only top name regularly on Collision is in fact hurting Collision instead of making it the tune-in destination for CM Punk fans. Like, the lines had to be drawn around who has beef with Punk and naturally the entire main event scene right now has some level of beef with Punk, and the guys who do work Saturdays like HOB, The Acclaimed, Darby, Ricky, BCG, etc. are hardly slouches. But are we sure Collision wouldn't do a bit better if sometimes Moxley showed up? If the Cole and MJF storyline sometimes developed on Saturday nights outside of that one tag match? What if Hangman worked Saturdays? What if the Bucks worked Saturdays? Would a banger exhibition style Kenny match pull in good numbers for Collision the same way it can for Dynamite? What about Orange Cassidy doing Orange Cassidy things?
Making it CM Punk Island was something I said was a bad idea at the start compared to actually balancing its talent, and now people are using Collision being Punk's show to claim it was hand-crafted for them to feature CM Punk rather than being a convenient way to draw those lines and therefore they gotta keep him. It doesn't have to be. And even if you lose Punk, maybe you get a better distribution of your talent across both shows and the ratings tick upward a little bit as a result. There's a very reasonable chance that CM Punk and the decisions to let it play out this way are hurting Collision. Except we can't have talent moving more freely because Punk's dream of a "drama free locker room" needs people put in chokeholds and having their Ring of Honor bookings revoked night of.
But he sells t-shirts so it's okay. I'm a fan of the cool rebellious CM Punk who goes after people he doesn't like and he deserves to because he makes the company money.
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Post by tenshi on Sept 2, 2023 10:49:02 GMT -5
"Let's ignore on the parts that make CM Punk a liability because he can't control himself and he's not available enough to build a brand around him but let's focus on the stats that make him look good, OK?" What about Jack Perry? It seems like a lot of people want to let him off the hook. Both of them should be suspended without pay for a month or two. Jack for antagonizing a co-worker and Punk for attacking a co-worker.
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Post by jm on Sept 2, 2023 11:02:32 GMT -5
Jack Perry didn't freaking CHOKE ANYBODY. What triggered the chain of events? Perry knocking on glass and saying "Cry me a river!". You mean Punk throwing Perry under the bus originally by bringing up the glass thing in the first place to babyface himself after burying Hangman didn't trigger the chain of events?
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Post by The anti-ratings Luddite on Sept 2, 2023 11:03:32 GMT -5
I think here's how a lot of this thread breaks down:
Some people believe that if someone mouths off to them, they have the right to go looking for a fight and purposefully escalate it to physicality because the other person "started it", and that... that is really, really f***ing horrifying to hear out of adults.
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Post by The anti-ratings Luddite on Sept 2, 2023 11:04:28 GMT -5
What about Jack Perry? It seems like a lot of people want to let him off the hook. Both of them should be suspended without pay for a month or two. Jack for antagonizing a co-worker and Punk for attacking a co-worker.
Honestly Jack should get a 1 month "grow up, kid" suspension and Punk should get removed from the annals of AEW
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Post by jm on Sept 2, 2023 11:06:45 GMT -5
For all of the people defending Punk: I'd love for them to act at their own place of work the same way that Punk has, and see how long they last before they get fired.
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