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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 4, 2023 22:22:34 GMT -5
TK: "I feared for my safety and my life and I don't want to put the wrestlers or the staffers through this or feel like they're in danger at work so I terminated Punk's contract." Hausman's Doofus Squad and Co.: "MELTZER LIED"I'm picturing the Punk Camp roundtable trying to come up with their next move when Dax suggests, "What if we go at Meltzer?" and everyone at the table nods approvingly Eh, Meltz have Bucks team in his ear. Not saying either side is right or wrong, but that’s the side we’re going to hear from Meltz. Three sides to every story; their side, punks side, and the truth. The problem there is that Meltzer also has Punk and all the other people who publicly shittalk Meltzer in his ear. Like at this point Dave has all but said live on air "I got five versions of this story and one of them is directly from CM Punk's mouth" over the situation. |
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Post by jm on Sept 4, 2023 22:22:47 GMT -5
TK: "I feared for my safety and my life and I don't want to put the wrestlers or the staffers through this or feel like they're in danger at work so I terminated Punk's contract." Hausman's Doofus Squad and Co.: "MELTZER LIED"I'm picturing the Punk Camp roundtable trying to come up with their next move when Dax suggests, "What if we go at Meltzer?" and everyone at the table nods approvingly Eh, Meltz have Bucks team in his ear. Not saying either side is right or wrong, but that’s the side we’re going to hear from Meltz. Three sides to every story; their side, punks side, and the truth. Meltzer has stated multiple times that the Bucks don't give him any info. And Meltzer has also said that the side he heard the most from during this whole ordeal..............was the Punk side. He said just a couple nights ago that he felt as if he and Bryan were too nice to Punk and always giving him the benefit of the doubt. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Sept 4, 2023 22:24:31 GMT -5
TK: "I feared for my safety and my life and I don't want to put the wrestlers or the staffers through this or feel like they're in danger at work so I terminated Punk's contract." Hausman's Doofus Squad and Co.: "MELTZER LIED"I'm picturing the Punk Camp roundtable trying to come up with their next move when Dax suggests, "What if we go at Meltzer?" and everyone at the table nods approvingly Eh, Meltz have Bucks team in his ear. Not saying either side is right or wrong, but that’s the side we’re going to hear from Meltz. Three sides to every story; their side, punks side, and the truth. He had Punk shoveling him way more bullshit than The Bucks ever potentially did, and he said himself they never actually did anyway! Regardless who is the camp constantly peddling shit that either has guys like SRS revising a story four times or Nick Hausman losing his god damn mind? Cause it sure ain't The Bucks in their ears lol |
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Post by chazraps on Sept 4, 2023 22:30:37 GMT -5
So on 83 weeks Conrad made sure to say that he was told by someone close to the situation that he was told to say Dave Meltzer is a liar when it comes to how things went down for Punk. Hausmann retweeted the article talking about what was discussed which is made even funnier by the fact that Bischoff rips on both him and Meltzer during the show. Conrad's been angling for a Punk podcast since the week after Brawl Out happened last year when he started lamenting unprompted on Foley's podcast how "Punk's just passionate, he's being treated unfairly." |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Sept 4, 2023 22:31:47 GMT -5
So on 83 weeks Conrad made sure to say that he was told by someone close to the situation that he was told to say Dave Meltzer is a liar when it comes to how things went down for Punk. Hausmann retweeted the article talking about what was discussed which is made even funnier by the fact that Bischoff rips on both him and Meltzer during the show. Conrad's been angling for a Punk podcast since the week after Brawl Out happened last year when he started lamenting unprompted on Foley's podcast how "Punk's just passionate, he's being treated unfairly." If I were Foley I would have never did another podcast with him again lmfao, dragging me into that shit like that. |
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Post by The Captain on Sept 4, 2023 22:34:02 GMT -5
Conrad is the biggest eCarny around. Learned pretty good from his father in law.
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Post by jm on Sept 4, 2023 22:34:42 GMT -5
Conrad desperate for that Punk podcast lol Also a big part of Conrad's whole podcast network is built on Meltzer as the big bad heel so that isn't surprising There is an entire cottage industry in wrestling today designed to go after Meltzer and make him out to be the villain of wrestling who supposedly pulls the strings of what companies, especially AEW, do. The same people who say this then turn around and say that Meltzer is irrelevant and no one listens to his opinions. It figures why so many Punk stans also hate Meltzer: Punk stans are masters of doublethink aka believing two contradictory statements at the same time. |
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Post by asellus on Sept 4, 2023 22:34:44 GMT -5
Conrad's probably been sliding into Punk's dms after all this "Maybe now I can finally get that podcast!"
Maybe he does, maybe he quickly learns how it actually is to work with a dude who burns bridges like it's a hobby and seems to have built this image of himself in his head that he can fight anybody.
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Post by markymark on Sept 4, 2023 22:47:30 GMT -5
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Sept 4, 2023 22:56:58 GMT -5
I'd love to see Barnett in AEW period but sure that'd be a bonus lol |
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Sept 4, 2023 23:02:28 GMT -5
You know what I just realized is funny about the Mark Henry comments?
Last week on Busted Open, his big thing was complaining about moles and snitches in the locker room- specifically, about how the Punk/Perry conflict got leaked immediately after it happened, in the middle of Punk/Joe.
And we now know that the snitch in question was either Punk himself, or someone close to Punk, since the story that initially got leaked was completely warped in Punk's favour.
So Henry is literally getting mad that the snitch he was complaining about last week got fired.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Sept 4, 2023 23:08:44 GMT -5
Where in the hell did the whole “Meltzer is in the Bucks’ pocket” narrative come from?
Like, I made the joke several hundred pages back that they named a move after him so CLEARLY he must be doing their bidding, but some people seem to really believe it.
I never really cared too terribly much for the Bucks. They kind of have a smarmy holier than thou vibe. But my God, the way people have tried to vilify them for literally doing nothing throughout this whole saga is making me a fan of theirs by default.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 4, 2023 23:09:51 GMT -5
Conrad desperate for that Punk podcast lol Also a big part of Conrad's whole podcast network is built on Meltzer as the big bad heel so that isn't surprising There is an entire cottage industry in wrestling today designed to go after Meltzer and make him out to be the villain of wrestling who supposedly pulls the strings of what companies, especially AEW, do. The same people who say this then turn around and say that Meltzer is irrelevant and no one listens to his opinions. It figures why so many Punk stans also hate Meltzer: Punk stans are masters of doublethink aka believing two contradictory statements at the same time. Yeah, which is nothing new. Wrestlers in the 80s and early 90s liked to say they'd wring Meltzer's neck if they ever met him, that he was a nobody... while having the Observer mailed to their mother in law's, etc, to hide that they subscribed, for Bill Watts to change course on booking if Meltzer's criticism of an angle got under his skin, for Hogan and Savage to try to work Meltzer and to call him out on the air on a PPV, etc. Like, there's plenty of shit Meltzer's been wrong about or I strongly disagree with him on, but he's the big name in this for a reason, and he's been far from irrelevant for decades. It's not the same thing as him being gospel or infallible, but he's helped make a number of careers and laid bare plenty of shit in wrestling because he's the person people go to in order to vent frustrations, blow whistles, or try to spin a narrative. |
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Post by jm on Sept 4, 2023 23:16:12 GMT -5
Where in the hell did the whole “Meltzer is in the Bucks’ pocket” narrative come from? Like, I made the joke several hundred pages back that they named a move after him so CLEARLY he must be doing their bidding, but some people seem to really believe it. I never really cared too terribly much for the Bucks. They kind of have a smarmy holier than thou vibe. But my God, the way people have tried to vilify them for literally doing nothing throughout this whole saga is making me a fan of theirs by default. You answered your own question in the next sentence. Since the Bucks named one of their signatures moves the "Meltzer Driver", people seriously believe that The Bucks and Meltzer talk every night and they always spill secrets and dirt to Meltzer. Never mind that Meltzer himself has said that The Bucks never give him any dirt, and in fact he's heard the most from the Punk camp during all of this. It doesn't matter to the anti-Elite crowd; Meltzer is in the pockets of The Bucks, and that's that. And no amount of evidence will convince them otherwise. |
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Sept 4, 2023 23:18:22 GMT -5
Punk stans right now: “The Elite are too stupid and ignorant to even manage a Wendy’s.” Also Punk stans right now: “The Elite just executed one of the most elaborate schemes in the history of the world to run Punk out of the company and ruin his legacy.” Like, this shit is embarrassing. Even if this was an elaborate scheme by The Elite, if they are able to accurately predict that all it would take for you to physically assault a co-worker and threaten your boss was a mild disagreement over a spot and a minor slight, then they weren’t even in the wrong to enact that scheme in the first place. |
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Post by tenshi on Sept 4, 2023 23:32:55 GMT -5
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Post by Fade on Sept 4, 2023 23:36:44 GMT -5
Just realized MJF juked a Punk feud for the title twice after their original rivalry.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 4, 2023 23:38:53 GMT -5
Where in the hell did the whole “Meltzer is in the Bucks’ pocket” narrative come from? Like, I made the joke several hundred pages back that they named a move after him so CLEARLY he must be doing their bidding, but some people seem to really believe it. I never really cared too terribly much for the Bucks. They kind of have a smarmy holier than thou vibe. But my God, the way people have tried to vilify them for literally doing nothing throughout this whole saga is making me a fan of theirs by default. I think a lot of it, other than people taking the Bucks' "Uncle Dave" talk seriously, is that the Bucks' work is often dismissed by a subset of fans, and when they see them often score highly with Meltzer (albeit not as many times as Omega has), they reflexively think it's bias, that Meltzer favors them due to a friendship or something. That isn't the only reason, but it is a factor. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Sept 4, 2023 23:42:47 GMT -5
Where in the hell did the whole “Meltzer is in the Bucks’ pocket” narrative come from? Like, I made the joke several hundred pages back that they named a move after him so CLEARLY he must be doing their bidding, but some people seem to really believe it. I never really cared too terribly much for the Bucks. They kind of have a smarmy holier than thou vibe. But my God, the way people have tried to vilify them for literally doing nothing throughout this whole saga is making me a fan of theirs by default. I think a lot of it, other than people taking the Bucks' "Uncle Dave" talk seriously, is that the Bucks' work is often dismissed by a subset of fans, and when they see them often score highly with Meltzer (albeit not as many times as Omega has), they reflexively think it's bias, that Meltzer favors them due to a friendship or something. That isn't the only reason, but it is a factor. and Punk flat out said that they were talking to Dave at the original scrum and a lot of Punk fans believed him... despite Meltzer flat out saying the Bucks are not one of my sources... but CM Punk absolutely is. |
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Post by khali on Sept 4, 2023 23:46:43 GMT -5
Criticizing Meltzer’s credibility on 83 Weeks is particularly funny considering Bischoff has less credibility than anyone on earth and sometimes claims the total opposite of what he said in the past.
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