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Post by asuka007 on Dec 30, 2022 15:12:34 GMT -5
Honestly keeping both belts on Roman for this long has made this WAT more complicated than it needed to be.
Just have Roman drop the WWE Title. This whole epic run started with the Universal Title and that belt has always felt like the far more important one to Roman’s story. The WWE belt was just kind of thrown in later on to add more to the Brock vs. Roman main event.
Just send the WWE Title back to Raw, and you can keep doing whatever you want to do with Roman and the Universal Title.
I honestly don’t understand what is so hard about this?
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Post by bob on Dec 30, 2022 15:24:44 GMT -5
Cody wins the WWE title from Roman on night 1, keeps it on Raw. Sami wins the Universal Title on night 2, keeps it on Smackdown this
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Post by crowley1986 on Dec 30, 2022 15:24:51 GMT -5
Ladder match Roman grabs the universal and whomever he faces grabs the wwe title
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Post by Chiral on Dec 30, 2022 15:52:56 GMT -5
Me hearing about the new Raw world title: "Ugh this title is gonna be seen as lesser please don't job out this champ to roman like they did to big e just in case anyone still was unaware he was top guy over all" Me when I see the new Raw world title is big gold again: "OOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!"
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Post by Chuck Conry on Dec 30, 2022 16:07:43 GMT -5
I honestly think the only thing keeping the two belts from being officially unified is WWE doesn't want to deactivate the WWE title because it has all their history. Then on the other hand the Universal one has the long run.
They should just have him drop the WWE title somehow and move on from there. I really don't want a brand new title because then technically you'd have three world titles.
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Post by Fade on Dec 30, 2022 16:08:56 GMT -5
Honestly keeping both belts on Roman for this long has made this WAT more complicated than it needed to be. Just have Roman drop the WWE Title. This whole epic run started with the Universal Title and that belt has always felt like the far more important one to Roman’s story. The WWE belt was just kind of thrown in later on to add more to the Brock vs. Roman main event. Just send the WWE Title back to Raw, and you can keep doing whatever you want to do with Roman and the Universal Title. I honestly don’t understand what is so hard about this? Probably optics. Roman literally losing could dilute the impact of when dude Fr Fr loses (in 2040). And if you just merge ‘em and create a new title, maybe they’re apprehensive due to fans reactions? It’d literally be the HHH big gold shit from 2002.
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Post by Fade on Dec 30, 2022 16:10:17 GMT -5
I honestly think the only thing keeping the two belts from being officially unified is WWE doesn't want to deactivate the WWE title because it has all their history. Then on the other hand the Universal one has the long run. They should just have him drop the WWE title somehow and move on from there. I really don't want a brand new title because then technically you'd have three world titles. Recently thought if they have him drop the WWE title, they could have Sami f*** it up for him. So while Roman would “lose”, it’d at least progress the story they’re telling.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 30, 2022 16:21:22 GMT -5
Making a new title would be a dumb AF idea, considering there was a new world title made 6 years ago and it’s either kill that lineage or the wwe championship lineage (which I don’t think they will do). If the Rock comes back (which I hope to god he doesn’t), then vacate the wwe title and put it up for grabs at the elimination chamber. Seth can win that match and then have a triple threat with him, Cody and Drew or something. If Rock doesn’t come back, have Cody beat Roman for both titles and then relinquish the Universal title before the draft
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 30, 2022 16:24:51 GMT -5
I've always been of the mind that there should only be one top champ for the men's, women's, and each tag division. I get the difficulty, there's times when your champs would be feuding with someone on one show and feel like they're missing from the other, but man, "so and so is the SMACKDOWN champion!" just doesn't have any kind of ring to it.
Having the IC and US belts be the main straps for their individual shows feels alright to me, with the top champ being able to appear on either show on a whim, but I suppose it's a different beast figuring out what to do when you don't have midcard belts for your women's or tag divisions.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Dec 30, 2022 16:37:21 GMT -5
I don't know how in kayfabe you'd even split the titles in a way that would make sense. It would seem like Roman is being screwed over which you obviously don't want to be the case with a heel potentially getting sympathy. You hype a big unification match, he wins then less than a year later you take it back and say no actually, they're not unified now.
I guess you could do a 1994 RR finish and have two people hit the floor at the same time to end the Rumble and the compromise is one guy gets a shot at WWE and one gut gets a shot at Universal but a) that's a shitty, unsatisfying finish to a Rumble and there's a reason it's never been done again in almost 30 years and b) if Roman has to face 2 top guys in consecutive nights at Wrestlemania it again positions him almost as an underdog, having to spend months with two guys fully preparing for him while he has to fucus on them both and will be less fresh for the second night.
I don't think they should go back to two world titles. If you're world champion it should mean you're the best in the company. There shouldn't be two of you. What I think should happen is Roman should appear on Raw more often like they do with the men and women's tag titles. Damage CTRL are Raw roster and Usos are Smackdown but they also appear pretty regularly on the other show because they're champs. If for instance it's Roman/Cody at Wrestlemania I hope Raw gets a good chunk of the build-up for that while Smackdown can get all the Sami/KO/Uso stuff and probably Ronda/Becky too.
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Post by Ozman on Dec 30, 2022 16:45:09 GMT -5
Whoever beats Roman for the titles at Wrestlemania (i.e. Cody) loses one of the titles (i.e. the Universal title) at Backlash in a triple threat match where the champion doesn’t get pinned.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 30, 2022 16:45:14 GMT -5
I've always been of the mind that there should only be one top champ for the men's, women's, and each tag division. I get the difficulty, there's times when your champs would be feuding with someone on one show and feel like they're missing from the other, but man, "so and so is the SMACKDOWN champion!" just doesn't have any kind of ring to it. Having the IC and US belts be the main straps for their individual shows feels alright to me, with the top champ being able to appear on either show on a whim, but I suppose it's a different beast figuring out what to do when you don't have midcard belts for your women's or tag divisions. I say have one traveling world champion for men and women, tag division on one show, trios division on the other or something like that
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Post by asuka007 on Dec 30, 2022 19:17:56 GMT -5
I've always been of the mind that there should only be one top champ for the men's, women's, and each tag division. I get the difficulty, there's times when your champs would be feuding with someone on one show and feel like they're missing from the other, but man, "so and so is the SMACKDOWN champion!" just doesn't have any kind of ring to it. Having the IC and US belts be the main straps for their individual shows feels alright to me, with the top champ being able to appear on either show on a whim, but I suppose it's a different beast figuring out what to do when you don't have midcard belts for your women's or tag divisions. Raw has REALLY been undercut by Roman having both belts. There’s exhibit A of why long term it’s hard to make work with how WWE is set up today.
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Post by darbus alan on Dec 30, 2022 20:41:44 GMT -5
That's probably the biggest problem with WWE's situation right now. Ideally, the world champ would be on both shows at least at a decent clip even if it isn't every week. But for the most part, dual champion Roman Reigns is a Smackdown guy.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 30, 2022 20:45:03 GMT -5
I've always been of the mind that there should only be one top champ for the men's, women's, and each tag division. I get the difficulty, there's times when your champs would be feuding with someone on one show and feel like they're missing from the other, but man, "so and so is the SMACKDOWN champion!" just doesn't have any kind of ring to it. Having the IC and US belts be the main straps for their individual shows feels alright to me, with the top champ being able to appear on either show on a whim, but I suppose it's a different beast figuring out what to do when you don't have midcard belts for your women's or tag divisions. Raw has REALLY been undercut by Roman having both belts. There’s exhibit A of why long term it’s hard to make work with how WWE is set up today. Funny this is they could of easily just had him defend the belt against stars of both brands lol
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Post by ayumidah on Dec 30, 2022 20:45:44 GMT -5
amicably, for the kids, hopefully
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Post by floundertime on Dec 30, 2022 20:47:11 GMT -5
How to split them? Do what lay-cool did but with a twist. Solo gets half, Sami gets half. When there powers combine they form Roman.
New boom period!
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