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Post by wildojinx on Dec 6, 2022 16:53:02 GMT -5
,,since they can be found anywhere online, but why dont they play shows that are ABOUT music? Wouldnt documentaries on popular singers or the history of certain genres do well?
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 6, 2022 17:39:22 GMT -5
Cost to ratings ratio. Even the great documentaries don't attract the same regular audience as hot, stupid people yelling and having sex, and cost a lot more to make, licensing songs, archive footage, recording new footage and so on.
MTV is what it is because the people running it found that they could make that cheap channel they were running even cheaper, and that will always be the priority for Viacom, rather than producing quality material. If they could switch from dumpster fire reality TV to 24 hour livestreaming an actual dumpster fire and get comparable ratings, they would.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Dec 6, 2022 18:13:45 GMT -5
This is why...
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 6, 2022 18:25:14 GMT -5
Why do anything when you can run Ridiculousness for 27 hours a day and somehow not go bankrupt?
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Post by fg on Dec 6, 2022 18:25:52 GMT -5
,,since they can be found anywhere online, but why dont they play shows that are ABOUT music? Wouldnt documentaries on popular singers or the history of certain genres do well? NickMusic could afford to show music videos 24/7 but MTV can’t. |
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Post by fg on Dec 6, 2022 18:26:27 GMT -5
Why do anything when you can run Ridiculousness for 27 hours a day and somehow not go bankrupt? Because that would be…ridiculous. Hehehe! |
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Post by tirtefaa on Dec 6, 2022 18:28:36 GMT -5
Where have you been the last 20 years?
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Post by Big BosskMan on Dec 6, 2022 18:35:03 GMT -5
,,since they can be found anywhere online, but why dont they play shows that are ABOUT music? Wouldnt documentaries on popular singers or the uhistory of certain genres do well? Uh, this is what VH1 started out as initially with the Behind the Music series (which was a guilty pleasure of mine) and other specials like Storytellers. And Pop-Up Video to a lesser extent. Now, AXSTV is the home of some halfway decent music documentaries and movies. |
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Dec 6, 2022 18:57:47 GMT -5
Somebody get Ted Turner on the horn, I think now is the perfect time to relaunch CMC.
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Post by Glitch on Dec 7, 2022 7:36:20 GMT -5
I feel like this is the actual criticism that's aimed at MTV that people ignore. And instead they strawman the argument by pretending you're criticizing them for not playing music videos. It's like "no, dumbass. Nobody is talking smack at mtv for not playing music videos. It's for not playing anything related to music at all!"
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Dec 7, 2022 12:43:14 GMT -5
You know what, that's a great idea! They should run more Ridiculousness.
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Post by BRV on Dec 7, 2022 13:30:07 GMT -5
According to their current programming, MTV runs two music shows (did you know "Unplugged" was still a thing? Neither did I!), two news and documentary shows, one celebrity-based show, four competition shows, four variety shows (all a variation of "Ridiculousness," because we have to keep the Dyrdek-verse going), and SEVENTEEN reality shows.
We can be bitter and fight it, but it's what the audience wants. The appetite for music-related content simply isn't there, because if it were, MTV would obviously capitalize on it. It's clear that what their target audience wants is "Ridiculousness" in all of its numerous formats, and reality shows upon reality shows.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 7, 2022 16:58:02 GMT -5
That ship has sailed, hit the iceberg,sank, and Cameron films down at the wreckage
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Dec 7, 2022 17:05:35 GMT -5
VEVO killed the Viacom star.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Dec 7, 2022 17:11:24 GMT -5
Cost to ratings ratio. Even the great documentaries don't attract the same regular audience as hot, stupid people yelling and having sex, and cost a lot more to make, licensing songs, archive footage, recording new footage and so on. MTV is what it is because the people running it found that they could make that cheap channel they were running even cheaper, and that will always be the priority for Viacom, rather than producing quality material. If they could switch from dumpster fire reality TV to 24 hour livestreaming an actual dumpster fire and get comparable ratings, they would. If anything MTV needs to return to it's trainwreck trash reality tv golden era when Jersey Shore was fistpumping their way into America's watercooler. MTV Challenge now is a boring show that tries to be "America's 5th sport" or whatever and they edit out all the fighting and shennanigans that goes on in the house and they invite the same group of friends almost every season. All the Viacom reality tv show's try to be Faux Inspirational like American Idol/Ninja Warrior/The Olympics even their trash dating shows the contestants will be nice normal peole and have inspirational backstories of like a brother with stage iv cancer or they were born in a war torn country" |
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Post by ElmerFudd on Dec 8, 2022 1:55:05 GMT -5
I have 2 channels on my cable called MTV Live and MTV Classic that show videos all day. Think I've only ever turned them on once or twice.
Edit: Actually turned on MTV Classic now for the hell of it. Still like me some cheesy 80's music videos.
Edit 2: Switched to MTV Live and whatever this Nicki Minaj video this is that I'm watching is definitely NSFW.
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Post by ElmerFudd on Dec 8, 2022 2:33:45 GMT -5
I don't know if it's because it's 2:30 AM here or what but all these music videos on MTV Live are like softcore porn and that's probably putting it mildly. These kids these days... I think I should stick to MTV Classic and cheesy 80's videos.
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Post by mrtuesday on Dec 8, 2022 7:08:57 GMT -5
According to their current programming, MTV runs two music shows (did you know "Unplugged" was still a thing? Neither did I!), two news and documentary shows, one celebrity-based show, four competition shows, four variety shows (all a variation of "Ridiculousness," because we have to keep the Dyrdek-verse going), and SEVENTEEN reality shows. We can be bitter and fight it, but it's what the audience wants. The appetite for music-related content simply isn't there, because if it were, MTV would obviously capitalize on it. It's clear that what their target audience wants is "Ridiculousness" in all of its numerous formats, and reality shows upon reality shows. It's like when people complain that Nickelodeon airs hours and hours of SpongeBob a day. Or when Cartoon Network airs hours of Teen Titans Go a day. I get the frustration, but the ratings show that's what the audience wants. Hell, the History Channel going full "Aliens built the pyramids" conspiracy theory over actual factual history comes from the same thing. The numbers say that's what the audience wants. A&E was once about "Art and Entertainment" AMC was once about "American Movie Classics" Bravo was once about high brow art and culture Yeah, the audience isn't there for any of that anymore. |
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Dec 9, 2022 2:19:49 GMT -5
I remember when the Preview Channel showed previews. Now all kids have to do is hit the guide button on the remote and all the info pops up. I miss having to sit and wait for the channel you are curious about to come around again on the scroll, and that top part of the screen showing endless ads for terrible movies and TV shows. What channel am I supposed to change it to and just leave it when there is nothing else on?
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Post by ElmerFudd on Dec 9, 2022 2:41:31 GMT -5
According to their current programming, MTV runs two music shows (did you know "Unplugged" was still a thing? Neither did I!), two news and documentary shows, one celebrity-based show, four competition shows, four variety shows (all a variation of "Ridiculousness," because we have to keep the Dyrdek-verse going), and SEVENTEEN reality shows. We can be bitter and fight it, but it's what the audience wants. The appetite for music-related content simply isn't there, because if it were, MTV would obviously capitalize on it. It's clear that what their target audience wants is "Ridiculousness" in all of its numerous formats, and reality shows upon reality shows. It's like when people complain that Nickelodeon airs hours and hours of SpongeBob a day. Or when Cartoon Network airs hours of Teen Titans Go a day. I get the frustration, but the ratings show that's what the audience wants. Hell, the History Channel going full "Aliens built the pyramids" conspiracy theory over actual factual history comes from the same thing. The numbers say that's what the audience wants. A&E was once about "Art and Entertainment" AMC was once about "American Movie Classics" Bravo was once about high brow art and culture Yeah, the audience isn't there for any of that anymore. There's a channel on my cable called TeenNick that airs ICarly a lot. I still enjoy that show. Disney Channel has Jesse on a lot I still enjoy that. Disney Channel never air reruns of Hannah Montana or Shake It Up anymore my stepdaughter used to love watching those. I figure that's for some of the risque stuff Miley Cyrus and Bella Thorne have done since. |
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