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Post by fg on Dec 7, 2022 11:43:32 GMT -5
We all know that the WWE and NBCUniversal did a HUGE job building up this dream match for WM28. One of the things they did was air hour long video packages across channels that NBCUniversal had at the time. The shows aired on channels like Syfy and some channels that are now defunct. Also, if Cozi TV existed at the time (it launched in Dec. 2012 as a retro channel) it probably would have aired on that channel too, wouldn’t it? After all, Cozi TV is a free digital broadcast channel. (Also, on a side note, that channel would’ve immediately got complaints that the channel is already going downhill but that’s another story.)
What did you all think of that show?
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Post by anakin on Dec 7, 2022 11:57:16 GMT -5
Are you on drugs?
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Post by fg on Dec 7, 2022 12:05:41 GMT -5
No, I am not. I just figured I would ask around.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Dec 7, 2022 12:12:22 GMT -5
I don't know if I actually watched it but I do remember they had a special preview show hyping the match airing on all the NBCU channels that week. I'm pretty sure E! and MTV were covering the match extensively too.
It was one of the best hype jobs they ever promoted and it's not surprising it drew the biggest PPV buyrate in wrestling history, which will likely never be broken now.
If WWE still did traditional PPV with no Peacock/WWE Network I wonder how Rock/Roman would compare. I'm sure it would do a huge number but I don't think it would beat the Rock/Cena one.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Dec 7, 2022 13:13:14 GMT -5
Ah yes, the feud where Dwayne had his joke about Cena’s shirts backfire and it turned into a lucrative deal for the dude.
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Post by BRV on Dec 7, 2022 13:51:44 GMT -5
I rewatched WrestleMania XXVIII recently and was caught up in how well they built the hype for this match. Not the actual build to the match, or even the match itself, but the HYPE for the match. WWE did an incredible job making it feel like an enormously important event.
Announcing it one year in advance was such a bold, ballsy move. Anything could have happened. Like, what if John Cena blew out his knee or tore his bicep or something during the "Embrace the Hate" feud with Kane, and the match suddenly went *poof* and vanished? A year's worth of hype is gone. Or what if he suffered a year-long injury just weeks after the match was announced and they had to rebook on the fly?
Then they have this big promotional show that airs on just about every NBC Universal network at the same time. That's exceedingly rare in television, almost exclusively for award shows. Again, WWE hits it out of the park to make it feel like this match is a big freaking deal.
And then at WrestleMania, the promotional video uses "We Are Young" by Fun, which at that point in April 2012 was the no. 1 song in America. Big. Deal. Again, WWE nails it.
Before John Cena and The Rock have even walked out onto the stage in Miami, WWE did absolutely everything right to make this feel like the biggest match in company history.
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Post by ElmerFudd on Dec 7, 2022 15:09:12 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the buildup to that match. I actually jumped up and down marking out when Rock won because I thought it was a given Cena would win.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 7, 2022 15:24:16 GMT -5
Honestly, still not over the “notes on hand” thing being this massive part of the feud when you are building up John Cena versus The Rock.
Like, at least with the Debra stuff for Austin/Rock, that was written out with a simple “Bam, she non factor”.
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Post by tntchamp on Dec 7, 2022 15:25:06 GMT -5
Props to WWE there due the build up was exciting and it truly did have this big time larger then life big match feel that hasn't been replicated since. The build up looking back while maybe kind of redundant with just them cutting promos (and like some people, I can't help but feel Rock water himself down when it came to trash talking Cena during those months compared to his first return promo and YouTube video he cut on Cena) it still was exciting just seeing them interact and build towards the match. The match itself was honestly a good solid if not slightly underrated match and of course I was so stoked that Rock beat Cena even if I knew Cena was just going to get his win back a year later. I didn't watch the build up for Rock-Cena 2 but I read about it as it was going on and it didn't feel nearly as exciting the first time. The second time around it seems like they just coasted off the attitude of "We don't need to try because the name value will be enough" and they barley interacted. Plus where as the first match felt truly unpredictable, the rematch was clearly just there to have Cena get his win back over the Rock which while understandable, didn't make the match feel as exciting since we already knew what the endgame was barring a heel turn that didn't happen.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Dec 7, 2022 15:38:29 GMT -5
Honestly, still not over the “notes on hand” thing being this massive part of the feud when you are building up John Cena versus The Rock. Like, at least with the Debra stuff for Austin/Rock, that was written out with a simple “Bam, she non factor”. It wasn't a massive part. It was a 10 second thing in one of their promos. It wasn't in any of the video packages for the match. The Debra thing with Austin/Rock was a full storyline that lasted weeks and takes up like quarter of that famous My Way video. To this day it still amazes me how hyped that video makes me feel because the feud outside of one or two segments was not good at all.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on Dec 7, 2022 15:40:18 GMT -5
I love that this is just a rly normal thoughtful post and the first reply is damn what the f*** dude are you on crack
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 7, 2022 15:40:55 GMT -5
Honestly, still not over the “notes on hand” thing being this massive part of the feud when you are building up John Cena versus The Rock. Like, at least with the Debra stuff for Austin/Rock, that was written out with a simple “Bam, she non factor”. It wasn't a massive part. It was a 10 second thing in one of their promos. It wasn't in any of the video packages for the match. It was a MASSIVE part of Cena’s promo after it happened. And it likely wasn’t in the video packages because it was shit.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Dec 7, 2022 15:54:49 GMT -5
It wasn't a massive part. It was a 10 second thing in one of their promos. It wasn't in any of the video packages for the match. It was a MASSIVE part of Cena’s promo after it happened. And it likely wasn’t in the video packages because it was shit. Debra being Rock's manager was shit and they didn't cut that out of the video package. And that story took up like 3 of the 5 weeks Rock/Austin had for build between No Way Out and Wrestlemania. The notes thing definitely wasn't as big as that. It was just a line in a promo and not even a closing line.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 7, 2022 16:27:56 GMT -5
I rewatched WrestleMania XXVIII recently and was caught up in how well they built the hype for this match. Not the actual build to the match, or even the match itself, but the HYPE for the match. WWE did an incredible job making it feel like an enormously important event. Announcing it one year in advance was such a bold, ballsy move. Anything could have happened. Like, what if John Cena blew out his knee or tore his bicep or something during the "Embrace the Hate" feud with Kane, and the match suddenly went *poof* and vanished? A year's worth of hype is gone. Or what if he suffered a year-long injury just weeks after the match was announced and they had to rebook on the fly? Then they have this big promotional show that airs on just about every NBC Universal network at the same time. That's exceedingly rare in television, almost exclusively for award shows. Again, WWE hits it out of the park to make it feel like this match is a big freaking deal. And then at WrestleMania, the promotional video uses "We Are Young" by Fun, which at that point in April 2012 was the no. 1 song in America. Big. Deal. Again, WWE nails it. Before John Cena and The Rock have even walked out onto the stage in Miami, WWE did absolutely everything right to make this feel like the biggest match in company history. I think if Cena got injured, they would of either had Punk defend the wwe title against the Rock or Rock vs Orton at mania 28 (where rock wins) then Rock vs Cena at Mania 29. (Honestly that probably would Of been better)
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Post by ElmerFudd on Dec 7, 2022 16:29:35 GMT -5
Honestly, still not over the “notes on hand” thing being this massive part of the feud when you are building up John Cena versus The Rock. Like, at least with the Debra stuff for Austin/Rock, that was written out with a simple “Bam, she non factor”. It wasn't a massive part. It was a 10 second thing in one of their promos. It wasn't in any of the video packages for the match. The Debra thing with Austin/Rock was a full storyline that lasted weeks and takes up like quarter of that famous My Way video. To this day it still amazes me how hyped that video makes me feel because the feud outside of one or two segments was not good at all I liked the buildup to the Austin/Rock Survivor Series match in 2001 better than the buildup to WM17. Austin and Rock in the Ring Singing Margaritaville together was like the equivalent of Bron Breakker and Apollo having breakfast and going fishing today.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Dec 7, 2022 16:47:13 GMT -5
I rewatched WrestleMania XXVIII recently and was caught up in how well they built the hype for this match. Not the actual build to the match, or even the match itself, but the HYPE for the match. WWE did an incredible job making it feel like an enormously important event. Announcing it one year in advance was such a bold, ballsy move. Anything could have happened. Like, what if John Cena blew out his knee or tore his bicep or something during the "Embrace the Hate" feud with Kane, and the match suddenly went *poof* and vanished? A year's worth of hype is gone. Or what if he suffered a year-long injury just weeks after the match was announced and they had to rebook on the fly? Then they have this big promotional show that airs on just about every NBC Universal network at the same time. That's exceedingly rare in television, almost exclusively for award shows. Again, WWE hits it out of the park to make it feel like this match is a big freaking deal. And then at WrestleMania, the promotional video uses "We Are Young" by Fun, which at that point in April 2012 was the no. 1 song in America. Big. Deal. Again, WWE nails it. Before John Cena and The Rock have even walked out onto the stage in Miami, WWE did absolutely everything right to make this feel like the biggest match in company history. I think if Cena got injured, they would of either had Punk defend the wwe title against the Rock or Rock vs Orton at mania 28 (where rock wins) then Rock vs Cena at Mania 29. (Honestly that probably would Of been better) Rock couldn't really be in a title match in 2012. Wrestlemania was the only PPV he was available for that year (compared to 2013 when he worked 3). It's one thing for a heel like Brock to take the title hostage and disappear but I don't see how you can do that with a face. And he's obviously not losing in his hometown in his first match in almost a decade. Rock/Orton non-title is probably the way to go if Cena got hurt. Orton goes heel and maybe even briefly revives his legend killer gimmick and vows to finish off The Rock. Orton can easily take the loss and it's not like he was doing anything important at that Wrestlemania that would be a big deal to change.
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Post by BRV on Dec 7, 2022 19:04:48 GMT -5
It wasn't a massive part. It was a 10 second thing in one of their promos. It wasn't in any of the video packages for the match. It was a MASSIVE part of Cena’s promo after it happened. And it likely wasn’t in the video packages because it was shit. It was talked about live (I remember everyone saying something to the effect of “what is that scribbled on his wrist?”) and then again it was a jab thrown by Cena the following week, but that was about it. It disappeared as quickly from relevance to the feud as it arrived.
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Post by bluebeach25 on Dec 8, 2022 4:10:55 GMT -5
I rewatched WrestleMania XXVIII recently and was caught up in how well they built the hype for this match. Not the actual build to the match, or even the match itself, but the HYPE for the match. WWE did an incredible job making it feel like an enormously important event. Announcing it one year in advance was such a bold, ballsy move. Anything could have happened. Like, what if John Cena blew out his knee or tore his bicep or something during the "Embrace the Hate" feud with Kane, and the match suddenly went *poof* and vanished? A year's worth of hype is gone. Or what if he suffered a year-long injury just weeks after the match was announced and they had to rebook on the fly? Then they have this big promotional show that airs on just about every NBC Universal network at the same time. That's exceedingly rare in television, almost exclusively for award shows. Again, WWE hits it out of the park to make it feel like this match is a big freaking deal. And then at WrestleMania, the promotional video uses "We Are Young" by Fun, which at that point in April 2012 was the no. 1 song in America. Big. Deal. Again, WWE nails it. Before John Cena and The Rock have even walked out onto the stage in Miami, WWE did absolutely everything right to make this feel like the biggest match in company history. I think if Cena got injured, they would of either had Punk defend the wwe title against the Rock or Rock vs Orton at mania 28 (where rock wins) then Rock vs Cena at Mania 29. (Honestly that probably would Of been better) There is no way they would have done Rock vs Orton at WM 28 had Cena got injured. Orton was pretty lame during that time and couldn't have hyped the match like Cena and the Outcome would have been way too obvious also.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 8, 2022 4:37:00 GMT -5
It was alright, but I could have done with Rock retiring the "call my opponent gay" shtick instead of trying to be cute about it. He knew what he was saying with the Fruity Pebbles line, it just worked out well for Cena that he got an endorsement out of it.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Dec 8, 2022 4:56:29 GMT -5
I loved The Rock winning as it finally meant he stood tall at the end of a WrestleMania.
He was robbed of his moment in 2000 and in 2002 his match with Hogan should have been the main event.
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