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Post by asuka007 on Dec 11, 2022 14:31:18 GMT -5
Having Becky, Charlotte, Ronda, and Bianca in the two titles matches again this year would just show that the division hasn’t REALLY progressed truly in a year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2022 14:33:28 GMT -5
I think it'll be Charlotte vs Bianca and Ronda vs Becky
Rhea will face off against Beth. Probably in a tag team with Balor against Edge.
Dominik and Priest will face Bad Bunny and Rey.
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Post by asuka007 on Dec 11, 2022 14:34:48 GMT -5
Rhea getting stuck in a tag match would suck quite frankly.
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 11, 2022 14:52:05 GMT -5
Rhea getting stuck in a tag match would suck quite frankly. That wouldn’t be “stuck.” A Mania match involving 2 hall of famers like Edge and Beth would be pretty high profile.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2022 15:21:32 GMT -5
If Charlotte returns and gets the title shot and title over Rhea now all it will do is refairm that Rhea is forever Charlottes bitch because Charlotte has beaten her multiple times and for titles no less and Rhea has gotten pretty much nothing back.
But also this is just kind of Rhea's career ...everytime her fanbase sees this shining moment where they believe Rhea is gonna break through to this megastardom she is always moved aside because someone upstaged her momentum.
In NXT she wins the title but is almost immediately cast aside because IYO got red hot with her heel turn becoming the most over woman at the time in NXT.
She gets to the main roster wins the Raw womens title but this is when Bianca is getting her mega ultra push and then down the line Becky returns etc.
And thus we find ourselves at the usual impasse with her...people think she deserves the title match at Mania but there is her forever cockblocker Charlotte looming to take that spot from her.
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Post by asuka007 on Dec 11, 2022 16:01:06 GMT -5
Charlotte also tossed Rhea out of the RR last year, almost casually.
Simon Miller was my boy when he complained about that in his review.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Dec 11, 2022 16:47:23 GMT -5
Bianca had also been hyping up Charlotte and the idea of her personally beating all four Horsewomen in interviews for several months. The twist though is that she's started talking up Rhea as an opponent as well over the last few weeks.
Again, though, the key thing is that those things aren’t happening ON TV. At least other than one thing with Belair and Ripley before Survivor Series, anyway. I mean, I’m not saying they may not already know what they want to do, but nothing is confirmed because nobody in the company is gonna be stupid enough to confirm anything until the match starts being built on TV. And especially when the confirmation requires several leaps to conclusions. Taking things said in interviews out of the equation, a lot of it is just a safe assumption because of how she's been booked the last seven years plus. Charlotte is ALWAYS in the title picture. Just going by history if she's around come Wrestlemania it's pretty much pretty guaranteed she's going to be in the title match. It's like the elephant in the room. You know it's know it's there and you try your best to ignore it but at the end of the day it's unavoidable. Also let's say she's not in a title match and they go with Bianca and Rhea instead. Then where else is Charlotte going to fit in? They definitely aren't leaving her off the card. And she isn't going to in Tag Title clusterf**k. Rhea at least has the Beth thing they can go back to. Becky, Ronda, and Bianca are all locks to be in the single title matches. What's interesting is how are they going to get Charlotte, Rhea, Damage CTRL, and Alexa on. I think they are going to do Charlotte and Bianca and then some sort of mixed tag match with Rhea and Dom against Edge and Beth. Have no idea what they do with Alexa and Damage CTRL. I guess with Damage CTRL they do a six woman against some combination of the faces not in something major (Raquel, Liv, Tegan, Shotzi, Asuka). Alexa I guess will be involved in Bray's match.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 11, 2022 17:05:57 GMT -5
Again, though, the key thing is that those things aren’t happening ON TV. At least other than one thing with Belair and Ripley before Survivor Series, anyway. I mean, I’m not saying they may not already know what they want to do, but nothing is confirmed because nobody in the company is gonna be stupid enough to confirm anything until the match starts being built on TV. And especially when the confirmation requires several leaps to conclusions. Taking things said in interviews out of the equation, a lot of it is just a safe assumption because of how she's been booked the last seven years plus. Charlotte is ALWAYS in the title picture. Just going by history if she's around come Wrestlemania it's pretty much pretty guaranteed she's going to be in the title match. It's like the elephant in the room. You know it's know it's there and you try your best to ignore it but at the end of the day it's unavoidable. Also let's say she's not in a title match and they go with Bianca and Rhea instead. Then where else is Charlotte going to fit in? They definitely aren't leaving her off the card. And she isn't going to in Tag Title clusterf**k. Rhea at least has the Beth thing they can go back to. Becky, Ronda, and Bianca are all locks to be in the single title matches. What's interesting is how are they going to get Charlotte, Rhea, Damage CTRL, and Alexa on. I think they are going to do Charlotte and Bianca and then some sort of mixed tag match with Rhea and Dom against Edge and Beth. Have no idea what they do with Alexa and Damage CTRL. I guess with Damage CTRL they do a six woman against some combination of the faces not in something major (Raquel, Liv, Tegan, Shotzi, Asuka). Alexa I guess will be involved in Bray's match. I’m not saying it won’t happen, my gripe is more with the performative outrage that comes from taking the rumours, acting like they’re locked in and then spending the next three months before the match even gets announced on TV being angry about it. Why waste that energy? As for Ripley, my suspicion is that she’ll get a singles match with Phoenix so that she can win that, while Balor/Priest/Dominik end up losing to Edge/Rey/Bad Bunny or something.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2022 17:06:52 GMT -5
Dmg Cntrl will likely be defending their tag titles in some multi woman match I assume as they do not really have to worrie about defending them for either the rumble or elimination chamber.
Unless HHH pivots hard and IYO and Asuka get a 1 on 1 match at Mania.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Dec 11, 2022 17:20:32 GMT -5
Dmg Cntrl will likely be defending their tag titles in some multi woman match I assume as they do not really have to worrie about defending them for either the rumble or elimination chamber. Unless HHH pivots hard and IYO and Asuka get a 1 on 1 match at Mania. Only thing is then what does Bayley do? I seriously doubt she doesn't get a match while Iyo and Dakota do. Unless they turn on her and that leads to her teaming with someone else for the multi woman tag match. With how unimportant Asuka is at the moment I doubt they are doing a 1 on 1 with her and Iyo at Mania. Maybe something on Raw but that's probably it. Going by recent Twitter activity she seems pretty disgruntled as well. Unless she's just working. Whoever knows?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 11, 2022 17:37:52 GMT -5
I’m fairly certain that Asuka cracking the shits on Twitter is just a work, leading to a possible on-screen character shift.
I mean, seriously, all the things that have happened to her that we’ve blown up about but she’s kept on trucking, but a stock-standard #1 contender thing is the final straw?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2022 18:09:00 GMT -5
I have said this already but if Asuka is reverting to murder clown KANA...then there is absoloutley no way she should not be shot right to the top of the pile to dethrone Bianca.
Because Asuka stays over with the crowd but if this is going to be an actual thing happening (and reason to believe not with how hard she is teasing it on twitter) she is gonna be the most over woman easily because you add murder clown asthetics to her , well it is game over for the rest of the women.
But of course this hinges on even if she is gonna be in the womens division because for all anyone knows she might an Uncle Howdy recruit as a swerve to everyone thinking it will be Alexa.
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Post by ElmerFudd on Dec 11, 2022 18:13:30 GMT -5
I still wanna see Sasha back but appears she's going to AEW unless they really disappoint everybody with Paige's mystery partner. If she thought WWE misused her just wait till she loses to Britt Baker and is wrestling on Dark.
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Post by XIII on Dec 11, 2022 18:15:47 GMT -5
I still wanna see Sasha back but appears she's going to AEW unless they really disappoint everybody with Paige's mystery partner. If she thought WWE misused her just wait till she loses to Britt Baker and is wrestling on Dark. Sasha in AEW will either be the greatest run ever or crazy CM Punk pt. 2. There will be no in between . lol
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Dec 11, 2022 18:17:42 GMT -5
If the plan hasn't been changed to Ronda losing to Kiana James at WM, HHH is as bad as Vince was.
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Post by XIII on Dec 11, 2022 18:20:31 GMT -5
If the plan hasn't been changed to Ronda losing to Kiana James at WM, HHH is as bad as Vince was. Ladies Night Friendly Tap Brawl 2023 starring Fallon Henley or GTFO
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Post by theironyuppie on Dec 11, 2022 20:46:00 GMT -5
If Charlotte returns and gets the title shot and title over Rhea now all it will do is refairm that Rhea is forever Charlottes bitch because Charlotte has beaten her multiple times and for titles no less and Rhea has gotten pretty much nothing back. But also this is just kind of Rhea's career ...everytime her fanbase sees this shining moment where they believe Rhea is gonna break through to this megastardom she is always moved aside because someone upstaged her momentum. In NXT she wins the title but is almost immediately cast aside because IYO got red hot with her heel turn becoming the most over woman at the time in NXT. She gets to the main roster wins the Raw womens title but this is when Bianca is getting her mega ultra push and then down the line Becky returns etc. And thus we find ourselves at the usual impasse with her...people think she deserves the title match at Mania but there is her forever cockblocker Charlotte looming to take that spot from her.
I think it's been about tricky circumstances than anything. There was a good chance she would have beaten Charlotte in front of 80,000 fans at WM 36, but then COVID happened and suddenly the idea of Charlotte being on two shows became very easy to manage, and perhaps desirable to WWE. She got the title at WM 37 but it was due to all the chaos going on in the Raw women's division---Lacey was pregnant, Asuka got hurt, Charlotte got COVID not long out from the show, so rather than a relaxed night-after-Mania callup like Bianca got in 2020, she got thrust into the match with no storyline besides 'Charlotte's not here' and Vince not even sure on what alignment he wanted her to be.
Things feel very different now though, where she's being presented as a top heel and has at least three major feuds (Bianca, Becky, Beth) all starting to get lined up for 2023.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 11, 2022 21:08:14 GMT -5
Is Rhonda/Shayna a possibility?
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 11, 2022 21:20:13 GMT -5
Rhea getting stuck in a tag match would suck quite frankly. That wouldn’t be “stuck.” A Mania match involving 2 hall of famers like Edge and Beth would be pretty high profile. And it would suck. Edge / Judgment Day has limped along for an absolute eternity and to be blunt I didn't give a shit about Beth Phoenix a decade ago, much less now.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 11, 2022 21:25:23 GMT -5
I could not think of a less exciting Mania women's title match than anything involving Charlotte Flair I think anything involving Ronda Rousey is a pretty strong contender because she's been consistently abysmal in the ring this year. At least Charlotte is competent, if profoundly played out.
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