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Post by Savage Gambino on Dec 14, 2022 13:53:33 GMT -5
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Dec 14, 2022 13:53:42 GMT -5
My quick thoughts without getting banned
I feel bad Mandy. She has really improved in her time in NXT. Definitely saw her as a Rumble surprise.
Sex work is real work
WWE well here's where I don't get banned 🤣 hopefully 🤞
We all know the independent contractor stuff is bullshit. It sucks but most people including myself have let WWE get away with it and for so long. it's time we put up or shut up and get someone with real power and money to get shit in motion to get rid of that, but it's wrestling and "low brow entertainment" so noone with real power seems to care.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 14, 2022 13:54:47 GMT -5
Dakota Kai, Mia Yim and Johnny Gargano & Candice Lerae have been streaming on Twitch so it ain't that. Thing worth pointing out is unless something has changed since, WWE's last approach was "you can stream but we get a cut of your profit “But you’re still independent contractors so, don’t expect anything in return.”
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Dec 14, 2022 13:55:02 GMT -5
Oh that was a shitpost lol I should've been more clear Oh my God, Sarray as the leader of Toxic Attraction would be hilarious, lol. Oh shut, when you said Sarray, I was thinking of Saraya
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 14, 2022 13:55:11 GMT -5
It's hard to defend WWE when they don't take people off TV for DUIs, though. Jimmy didn't get pulled after his last DUI. It basically infers that WWE finds someone posting nudes more of an offense than potentially killing somebody, which, not great. If they warn somebody not to do something, then yes, it's within their rights to pull somebody from TV, but the punishment should be consistent. I think that in this instance, if they asked her to pull them down and she chose not to, it's within her rights to keep them up but also within WWE's rights to fire her, but then they should also be taking similar action with others and they're not. I don’t condone the DUIs and I would be zero tolerance on that if I was in charge. If I was advising the company (and if these were employees), I would advise them to treat like situations alike as much as possible. So DUIs/legal trouble I would advise to treat as equally as you can. Explicit content issues I would advise to treat as equally as you can. Maybe it’s because it’s what I do, but I have trouble wrapping my head around the apples to oranges comparison of the DUIs to the OnlyFans situation. You made the point yourself. I made the apples to oranges comparison because it shows that there's degrees of right and wrong. Hypothetically, multiple DUI's should be treated with more seriousness than selling salacious content of yourself on the internet, but it's not. There's no scale for this stuff, it's just all done on a whim and a prayer that they don't get dumb press.
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Post by Numero Dos on Dec 14, 2022 13:59:30 GMT -5
Is it right that they’re taping a few episodes of NXT tonight to cover over the holidays? If so they might have to do some major editing that regular crowd loves Mandy Rose so I wouldn’t be surprised if they made their feelings known.
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Post by cornettesracket on Dec 14, 2022 14:00:27 GMT -5
I have to say I’m shocked by the release, because it was announced that she’d defend the title at new years evil as both male and female winners of the iron survivor match would face the champions at that event. I saw that Mandy had dropped the title and maybe there might be a suspension or time off TV to let the content situation cool down because she had said that the higher ups had found out about it, but I didn’t see her being released at all. I mean her and toxic attraction were money and very enjoyable to me as a fan.
I do wonder if a sponsor got wind of this and stuck their oar in ? If that happened then I can see why WWE might have acted, and maybe this is a good away and come back situation.
My understanding was the pictures were like instagram stuff but more of them.
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Post by Perd on Dec 14, 2022 14:02:42 GMT -5
Yeah, from what I’ve gathered, she’s posting some pretty risqué stuff on her website. Stuff WWE probably isn’t comfortable with. But I doubt she’s all that upset by this. You here reports about the amounts of money being made on sites like OnlyFans, and if they’re anywhere close to true, why wouldn’t you do it if it’s something you’re comfortable with? If you can make a great living, not taking bumps, that’s probably the way to go
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 14, 2022 14:03:58 GMT -5
I don’t condone the DUIs and I would be zero tolerance on that if I was in charge. If I was advising the company (and if these were employees), I would advise them to treat like situations alike as much as possible. So DUIs/legal trouble I would advise to treat as equally as you can. Explicit content issues I would advise to treat as equally as you can. Maybe it’s because it’s what I do, but I have trouble wrapping my head around the apples to oranges comparison of the DUIs to the OnlyFans situation. You made the point yourself. I made the apples to oranges comparison because it shows that there's degrees of right and wrong. Hypothetically, multiple DUI's should be treated with more seriousness than selling salacious content of yourself on the internet, but it's not. There's no scale for this stuff, it's just all done on a whim and a prayer that they don't get dumb press. I suppose I can see why the comparison is being made then, if we’re trying to categorize it as just “off-duty” conduct. When it comes to drug and alcohol issues, I’d typically treat that all as its own category where there might be a specific policy on that in place, with testing/rehab/court procedures and processes. Whereas the Mandy situation is more akin to an insubordination type of deal if she was warned and told to stop posting that type of content. Obviously in a real-world ethical vacuum, those committing DUI are doing a far more terrible thing when compared to someone selling nudes of themself or even someone being insubordinate to their employer’s directives. From a workplace perspective, that’s not typically how things are judged though.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 14, 2022 14:05:35 GMT -5
This is a terrible look and decision.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 14, 2022 14:06:25 GMT -5
WWE is, at it's core, a business, and at the core of this business is another business
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 14, 2022 14:07:09 GMT -5
You made the point yourself. I made the apples to oranges comparison because it shows that there's degrees of right and wrong. Hypothetically, multiple DUI's should be treated with more seriousness than selling salacious content of yourself on the internet, but it's not. There's no scale for this stuff, it's just all done on a whim and a prayer that they don't get dumb press. I suppose I can see why the comparison is being made then, if we’re trying to categorize it as just “off-duty” conduct. When it comes to drug and alcohol issues, I’d typically treat that all as its own category where there might be a specific policy on that in place, with testing/rehab/court procedures and processes. Whereas the Mandy situation is more akin to an insubordination type of deal if she was warned and told to stop posting that type of content. Obviously in a real-world ethical vacuum, those committing DUI are doing a far more terrible thing when compared to someone selling nudes of themself or even someone being insubordinate to their employer’s directives. From a workplace perspective, that’s not typically how things are judged though. Sure, I get that too, but I think it's just a bad look when they're letting somebody who puts people at risk stay when it doesn't sound like there's a suspension process or anything like that for the explicit content stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 14:07:53 GMT -5
To be fair we are talking about two different regimes here. That was when Lasagna still had his obvious influence and HHH and his crew were pretty much gone and why NXT 2.0 was well pretty hyper sexualized so much it became memed as the horny show.
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 14, 2022 14:11:49 GMT -5
I suppose I can see why the comparison is being made then, if we’re trying to categorize it as just “off-duty” conduct. When it comes to drug and alcohol issues, I’d typically treat that all as its own category where there might be a specific policy on that in place, with testing/rehab/court procedures and processes. Whereas the Mandy situation is more akin to an insubordination type of deal if she was warned and told to stop posting that type of content. Obviously in a real-world ethical vacuum, those committing DUI are doing a far more terrible thing when compared to someone selling nudes of themself or even someone being insubordinate to their employer’s directives. From a workplace perspective, that’s not typically how things are judged though. Sure, I get that too, but I think it's just a bad look when they're letting somebody who puts people at risk stay when it doesn't sound like there's a suspension process or anything like that for the explicit content stuff. Well yeah that’s certainly not a good look to have someone continuously having DUIs and they could have/should have canned those with them long ago. Don’t think anyone would disagree with that. But again, that wouldn’t enter into the realm of my consideration when deciding what to do with the Mandy situation. I do think an outright release is more severe than I would expect, unless it was an ultimatum of stop posting photos like that or you’re fired and she refused.
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Post by PKO on Dec 14, 2022 14:14:05 GMT -5
Looking into this and I wish people would come with facts and receipts at some point lol. It seems like everyone is talking in innuendo, referencing stories without going into detail, and a lot of contradictions.
At this point I know there are nude photos and videos. That much is fact. There is a picture of her and Tito nude but covering one another so you can’t see anything. Beyond that I still don’t really know what’s out there, and there seems to be a lot of rumour rather than any proof.
People are saying that apparently she was warned about this previously? But I’ve seen nothing to back that up and I follow womens wrestling sites/profiles who have never mentioned anything.
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Post by asuka007 on Dec 14, 2022 14:16:45 GMT -5
I want to know if it was a sponsor putting pressure on that motivate this perhaps?
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 14, 2022 14:17:30 GMT -5
By the way, is this what Stokely Hathaway meant when he talked about dick riding without a license?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 14:18:21 GMT -5
I want to know if it was a sponsor putting pressure on that motivate this perhaps? Possibly an exec from Peacock "The Cock"
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on Dec 14, 2022 14:19:52 GMT -5
*Literally a single photo has a lil bit of Tino Sabatelli in it*
THATS IT YHATS IT SHUT IG ALL DOWN
Seriously tho what the f***? Bad bad bad.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 14, 2022 14:21:25 GMT -5
Not a great situation all around, by the looks of things. Should Rose have not pushed her luck by continuing to do these explicit photos even after she was probably pulled aside about it already and still given a big push? Probably not. But at the same time, she was doing these things as a consenting adult, and taking explicit photos aren’t illegal, and WWE have had a litany of talents with issues involving things that allegedly didn’t involve clear consent and/or are illegal and still kept them on.
At the end of the day, just shows that big business is still really weird and pearl-clutchy about sex stuff in comparison to violence or racism or criminal charges.
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