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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on Dec 14, 2022 15:37:57 GMT -5
For context: Unless I missed a major development the photos of her and Tino aren't them literally having sex but he's pressed up on her in the shower like Oh Yeah >:-) movie magic style
Source: Dude he was so jacked there was like a lil bit of Mandy and 30 years of Sabi oh my god
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Post by Killah Ray on Dec 14, 2022 15:38:48 GMT -5
Another morality clause issue, just like what happened to young Two Dimes. Morality clauses are usually enforced because of problems it may cause for sponsors/stock, so Tony may not feel it's a problem. He certainly didnt with Two Dimes, so we may see Mandy again over in AEW. Really highlights how things have changed since the era of WWE wanting to get their people in to Playboy, and now you get axed for posting barely nudes. If what her subs are saying is to be believed, it was going from "barely nudes" to real explicit real quick. Her most recent photos were apparently her having sex with another man. Yeah in the last month she went from 0-100 real quick....
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Post by thehottag on Dec 14, 2022 15:39:54 GMT -5
Kinda feel this is another time to bring up how BS the 'Independent Contractor' thing is.
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Post by 06vwgti on Dec 14, 2022 15:39:56 GMT -5
Have any of the dui's been actual convictions? I always heard the arrest news, but never anything beyond that, it was always "he got arrested", but then it was somehow dropped and never came to an actual conclusion. Maybe that's what kept him around? That they couldn't do anything because they were just arrests and not actual convictions? Thankfully he hasn't had any for quite a while, but for a while, he and jeff hardy were having one after another it seems. So you couldn't really do anything this far distanced from his previous dui's, but those are actual life threatening things, which should be higher up on the list of "this is your warning, don't do this again" The Usos can't go into Canada and probably other countries because of the DUIs.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 14, 2022 15:40:31 GMT -5
For context: Unless I missed a major development the photos of her and Tino aren't them literally having sex but he's pressed up on her in the shower like Oh Yeah >:-) movie magic style Source: Dude he was so jacked there was like a lil bit of Mandy and 30 years of Sabi oh my god Like...has anyone actually seen the stuff? I know it got leaked but it feels like people are confused about what the photos actually are of.
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Post by Error on Dec 14, 2022 15:40:49 GMT -5
She sold photos of her and her fiance f***ing in the shower and WWE has had stuff in their contacts about being a part of these things going back over a decade now. You can throw whatever "but what about..." you want but this is one thing WWE says no to point blank. Hell they even warned her, which is more than I think most would get, and it seems she only laughed about it. The arguments about independent contractor and ones about sex work are valid but I don't think should apply when you sign a deal that point blank says don't do this, you do it, they warn you not to do it, and you keep doing it. All of this I understand and get. It's all BS, we know it's all BS but I get it. So why isn't there a "Don't drive badly and get yourself in the media as a notoriously bad driver who works for WWE" clause? Or at the very least, get suspended or sent to rehab or literally anything? Like, look, all I'm saying is that this is a much wider topic and I'm not even demanding a high standard from WWE, just them trying to think of PR from all cases. Being honest, no major media company or sponsor will really care until someone is killed or seriously injured by a repeat offender where sexuality is still mostly demonized in the US.
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Post by XIII on Dec 14, 2022 15:40:53 GMT -5
WWE: Three wrestlers make a sex tape that includes a championship belt getting jizzed on in at least one video and it gets leaked. Reference it in a freestyle rap on SmackDown.
Also WWE: Wrestler releases some sexual photos with their fiancée for profit. You’re fired.
LMAO. WWE is wild.
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Post by Legion on Dec 14, 2022 15:41:37 GMT -5
She sold photos of her and her fiance f***ing in the shower and WWE has had stuff in their contacts about being a part of these things going back over a decade now. You can throw whatever "but what about..." you want but this is one thing WWE says no to point blank. Hell they even warned her, which is more than I think most would get, and it seems she only laughed about it. The arguments about independent contractor and ones about sex work are valid but I don't think should apply when you sign a deal that point blank says don't do this, you do it, they warn you not to do it, and you keep doing it. All of this I understand and get. It's all BS, we know it's all BS but I get it. So why isn't there a "Don't drive badly and get yourself in the media as a notoriously bad driver who works for WWE" clause? Or at the very least, get suspended or sent to rehab or literally anything? Like, look, all I'm saying is that this is a much wider topic and I'm not even demanding a high standard from WWE, just them trying to think of PR from all cases. Because Moral crusaders dont generally come for you for that sort of stuff. The police will deal with that and they may take action in response to that. But 'sex work' still gets tongues wagging a lot more, and given their own history of pervy stuff from the Attitude era that can be referenced, it's a worse look in some markets and with some people. Unfair, yes for sure, but that's the difference as far as I can assume it.
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Post by mistery on Dec 14, 2022 15:42:39 GMT -5
Kinda feel this is another time to bring up how BS the 'Independent Contractor' thing is. Yeah no, this isn't the case here. WWE has a clause in their contract that explicitly forbids this kind of stuff. This is from WWE's filing with the SEC in regards to wrestler contracts: It's called the morality clause and pretty much every promotion has one included in their contracts. It's not unique to WWE. WWE: Three wrestlers make a sex tape that includes a championship belt getting jizzed on in at least one video and it gets leaked. Reference it in a freestyle rap on SmackDown. Also WWE: Wrestler releases some sexual photos with their fiancée for profit. You’re fired. LMAO. WWE is wild. I can't believe I'm gonna have to say this again, but there is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference between what happened with Paige and Toni compared to Mandy's situation. Paige and Toni were victims of revenge porn, which is illegal in almost the entire world. Their stuff was released without consent. Mandy was doing these photos and videos knowing full well that this stuff could easily be distributed elsewhere.
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Post by XIII on Dec 14, 2022 15:42:53 GMT -5
For context: Unless I missed a major development the photos of her and Tino aren't them literally having sex but he's pressed up on her in the shower like Oh Yeah >:-) movie magic style Source: Dude he was so jacked there was like a lil bit of Mandy and 30 years of Sabi oh my god Like...has anyone actually seen the stuff? I know it got leaked but it feels like people are confused about what the photos actually are of. The only ones from the shower that I’ve seen everything is still covered up on both of them.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 14, 2022 15:43:55 GMT -5
It's important to point out inconsistencies because that's a window into the company's priorities. If a company is enforcing a "moral clause" in contracts in certain cases and not others, we should look into it and ask questions. This doesn't justify what Mandy did one way or another but it should be a point of discussion. Exactly. Like, there's a difference between Mandy Rose putting pictures of herself naked on a paid service and Mandy Rose crashing into someone's car because she drank too much and didn't want to hire an Uber but if both are bad and going to blowback on the company, both should be bad. It's not even Whataboutism as much as wondering what would need to happen to affect a company's image because it's all over the place. Yeah if like to see the exact wording in the morality clause that fired her, but not Devlin, the Usos, or Sarah Logan.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 14, 2022 15:44:40 GMT -5
Like...has anyone actually seen the stuff? I know it got leaked but it feels like people are confused about what the photos actually are of. The only ones from the shower that I’ve seen everything is still covered up on both of them. Like, again, not taking away from WWE and Mandy's positions but I feel like we need to say the distinction on whether sex actually happened or not because we'll just be making them seem worse than they are.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 14, 2022 15:44:58 GMT -5
WWE: Three wrestlers make a sex tape that includes a championship belt getting jizzed on in at least one video and it gets leaked. Reference it in a freestyle rap on SmackDown. Also WWE: Wrestler releases some sexual photos with their fiancée for profit. You’re fired. LMAO. WWE is wild. Difference being the Paige tapes and pictures were straight up leaked/hacked material and this is intentional selling
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Post by mistery on Dec 14, 2022 15:47:48 GMT -5
The only ones from the shower that I’ve seen everything is still covered up on both of them. Like, again, not taking away from WWE and Mandy's positions but I feel like we need to say the distinction on whether sex actually happened or not because we'll just be making them seem worse than they are. Let's just be straight up here. From the angle they were shooting the photos at, it definitely looked like they were having sex, and that's all that really matters here. And that's how the public would perceive it as well.
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Post by Error on Dec 14, 2022 15:48:39 GMT -5
For context: Unless I missed a major development the photos of her and Tino aren't them literally having sex but he's pressed up on her in the shower like Oh Yeah >:-) movie magic style Source: Dude he was so jacked there was like a lil bit of Mandy and 30 years of Sabi oh my god Like...has anyone actually seen the stuff? I know it got leaked but it feels like people are confused about what the photos actually are of. I did the research for this, legit as I thought firing for nudes would be crazy, and if they aren't ingaged in coitus, he either had it strapped down, is tiny, or has amazing self control. In any case they are nude in shower and at the very least grinding in a way that would get you put on late nights on HBO with heavy content warnings before it shows.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Dec 14, 2022 15:48:55 GMT -5
Thank you, everyone. I'm still shocked, but I'll get through it.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Dec 14, 2022 15:49:06 GMT -5
There’s nudes. There’s “slips” and implied nudity. There’s a ton of butt shots with “if this tiny piece of cloth weren’t there…” there’s a ton of hand bras. The latest stuff is her and dude nude but there’s no nudity. There’s also a video of her and the dude in a compromising position but no nudity. So…yeah idk. Source: trust me, bro
My guy says she’s making bank off this site and they wanted her to stop. She asked to be paid what she’s making and they said no and released her. Again I’m making this up but it makes sense.
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Post by Kalmia on Dec 14, 2022 15:51:40 GMT -5
WWE contracts are terrible. We all know they're terrible. They favor the company and fleece the wrestlers at every turn. Wrestlers have zero bargaining power because 'union' is a dirty word and WWE don't even have the decency to make them employees and give them the benefits that come with that.
Legally WWE has every right to fire Mandy if her conduct breaks the clauses in her contract. It's still absolute BS though because those contracts are BS. I hope that some day soon those contracts get torn up and replaced by something decent.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 14, 2022 15:51:50 GMT -5
Like...has anyone actually seen the stuff? I know it got leaked but it feels like people are confused about what the photos actually are of. I did the research for this, legit as I thought firing for nudes would be crazy, and if they aren't ingaged in coitus, he either had it strapped down, is tiny, or has amazing self control. In any case they are nude in shower and at the very least grinding in a way that would get you put on late nights on HBO with heavy content warnings before it shows. Thank you for your service.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 15:52:07 GMT -5
Again if WWE warned her and she persisted then case closed she did not listen and probably thought she was above the warning/tried to call their bluff by doing more explicit stuff.
The fact she even got a warning first was a best case scenario for her more than alot of others get in other companies.
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