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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 14, 2022 15:07:40 GMT -5
If she was told previously to tone it down and defied them anyways, it's on her. She knows the money that stuff generates and took the risk. It's not the same as the Twitch issue since this can affect public perception and sponsorships beyond that one individual. People are quick to equate this to a lot of things, but if Otis was posting his ding dong on OtisFans and didn't listen to them, he'd probably be shown the door, too. Please. His caterpillar
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Post by asuka007 on Dec 14, 2022 15:07:42 GMT -5
I’ll say this, they’d better not let Vince back after this because the hypocrisy would be staggering.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 14, 2022 15:10:24 GMT -5
I’ll say this, they’d better not let Vince back after this because the hypocrisy would be staggering. If they don’t let him back in he’ll open a “OnlyUniverse” page
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Post by XIII on Dec 14, 2022 15:11:20 GMT -5
I’ll say this, they’d better not let Vince back after this because the hypocrisy would be staggering. If they don’t let him back in he’ll open a “OnlyUniverse” page The only porn site in the world where the host pays you to not talk about the content.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 14, 2022 15:13:10 GMT -5
So if Roddy still wants that release, he should get in the shower with Marina. Seems like he'd be solving a few Problems then.
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 14, 2022 15:13:52 GMT -5
If WWE asked Mandy to stop and she didn't because it was making a lot of money, I get it (I also respect her for choosing the thing she can do without injuring herself) even if it basically puts a spotlight on how BS being an "independent contractor" is and they should just make them employees. That being said, it still doesn't answer why this was bad but Jimmy's recent DUI got a statement from WWE saying that they're not responsible for what their talent does in their own time. Is it because Jimmy can't make money from getting drunk and crashing cars? I’m sure they think Jimmy’s arrest is bad and I remember the reports that came out about several higher ups wanting to release him. I’m sure his being part of the Bloodline is what got him off the hook, which is unfortunately how these things tend to go.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 15:19:46 GMT -5
Have any of the dui's been actual convictions? I always heard the arrest news, but never anything beyond that, it was always "he got arrested", but then it was somehow dropped and never came to an actual conclusion. Maybe that's what kept him around? That they couldn't do anything because they were just arrests and not actual convictions?
Thankfully he hasn't had any for quite a while, but for a while, he and jeff hardy were having one after another it seems. So you couldn't really do anything this far distanced from his previous dui's, but those are actual life threatening things, which should be higher up on the list of "this is your warning, don't do this again"
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on Dec 14, 2022 15:20:04 GMT -5
So if Roddy still wants that release, he should get in the shower with Marina. Wheel chair and brace intact or no subs
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 14, 2022 15:21:24 GMT -5
So if Roddy still wants that release, he should get in the shower with Marina. Wheel chair and brace intact or no subs
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Post by Legion on Dec 14, 2022 15:21:40 GMT -5
Another morality clause issue, just like what happened to young Two Dimes.
Morality clauses are usually enforced because of problems it may cause for sponsors/stock, so Tony may not feel it's a problem.
He certainly didnt with Two Dimes, so we may see Mandy again over in AEW.
Really highlights how things have changed since the era of WWE wanting to get their people in to Playboy, and now you get axed for posting barely nudes.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on Dec 14, 2022 15:22:55 GMT -5
I’ll say this, they’d better not let Vince back after this because the hypocrisy would be staggering. If they don’t let him back in he’ll open a “OnlyUniverse” page Imaging Vince going full Tout mode on an Onlyfans competitor site is killing me FANCENTRO AAAAAA UTS WHAT THE UNIVERSE IS TALKING SBOUT
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Post by J is Justice on Dec 14, 2022 15:23:29 GMT -5
but if Otis was posting his ding dong on OtisFans and didn't listen to them, he'd probably be shown the door, too.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 14, 2022 15:23:55 GMT -5
If WWE asked Mandy to stop and she didn't because it was making a lot of money, I get it (I also respect her for choosing the thing she can do without injuring herself) even if it basically puts a spotlight on how BS being an "independent contractor" is and they should just make them employees. That being said, it still doesn't answer why this was bad but Jimmy's recent DUI got a statement from WWE saying that they're not responsible for what their talent does in their own time. Is it because Jimmy can't make money from getting drunk and crashing cars? Honestly everything probably does go back to that. I legit think that this doesn't fall under the same contract stip the twitch streaming does where WWE would get a cut, and they also probably don't see Mandy's financial value as being worth any backlash her content gets. Like if you want to say at any point WWE asked her to stop and she didn't? ok that's an argument that can be had. THere are other arguments worth having to, but WWE is so hypocritical with these types of things it's really hard for me to go "well..." cause let me ask you this, if Rhonda, Charlotte, Becky, or Bianca did the exact same thing would WWE fire them?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 14, 2022 15:28:34 GMT -5
I don’t think everything needs a big bad scenario
No one in this looks great and everyone has their faults and blame
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Post by mistery on Dec 14, 2022 15:29:30 GMT -5
Another morality clause issue, just like what happened to young Two Dimes. Morality clauses are usually enforced because of problems it may cause for sponsors/stock, so Tony may not feel it's a problem. He certainly didnt with Two Dimes, so we may see Mandy again over in AEW. Really highlights how things have changed since the era of WWE wanting to get their people in to Playboy, and now you get axed for posting barely nudes. If what her subs are saying is to be believed, it was going from "barely nudes" to real explicit real quick. Her most recent photos were apparently her having sex with another man.
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Post by CMWaters on Dec 14, 2022 15:32:06 GMT -5
All this talk about morality clauses just reminds me of some things I've heard from old tv shows about how women need to act in public while on the show (June Lockheart on "Lassie", for example).
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Post by Error on Dec 14, 2022 15:32:18 GMT -5
She sold photos of her and her fiance f***ing in the shower and WWE has had stuff in their contacts about being a part of these things going back over a decade now. You can throw whatever "but what about..." you want but this is one thing WWE says no to point blank. Hell they even warned her, which is more than I think most would get, and it seems she only laughed about it.
The arguments about independent contractor and ones about sex work are valid but I don't think should apply when you sign a deal that point blank says don't do this, you do it, they warn you not to do it, and you keep doing it.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 14, 2022 15:33:14 GMT -5
On The List & Ya Boy SRS made it sound like WWE didn't really know what Mandy was posting
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Post by Legion on Dec 14, 2022 15:35:00 GMT -5
Another morality clause issue, just like what happened to young Two Dimes. Morality clauses are usually enforced because of problems it may cause for sponsors/stock, so Tony may not feel it's a problem. He certainly didnt with Two Dimes, so we may see Mandy again over in AEW. Really highlights how things have changed since the era of WWE wanting to get their people in to Playboy, and now you get axed for posting barely nudes. If what her subs are saying is to be believed, it was going from "barely nudes" to real explicit real quick. Her most recent photos were apparently her having sex with another man. Oh, fair enough then, I briefly looked at Twitter and just saw some pretty heavy thirst trap stuff, but if there is more explicit stuff, then yeah, morality clause all the way. That might even given another promotion pause.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 14, 2022 15:35:58 GMT -5
She sold photos of her and her fiance f***ing in the shower and WWE has had stuff in their contacts about being a part of these things going back over a decade now. You can throw whatever "but what about..." you want but this is one thing WWE says no to point blank. Hell they even warned her, which is more than I think most would get, and it seems she only laughed about it. The arguments about independent contractor and ones about sex work are valid but I don't think should apply when you sign a deal that point blank says don't do this, you do it, they warn you not to do it, and you keep doing it. All of this I understand and get. It's all BS, we know it's all BS but I get it. So why isn't there a "Don't drive badly and get yourself in the media as a notoriously bad driver who works for WWE" clause? Or at the very least, get suspended or sent to rehab or literally anything? Like, look, all I'm saying is that this is a much wider topic and I'm not even demanding a high standard from WWE, just them trying to think of PR from all cases.
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